This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/DYC.2ACE/1344.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Joanne, Sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you but life's been kinda busy. Looks like we're on different branches of McEvinney but I'll give you what I've got anyway. My ggrandfather, Patrick (b.Nov 1889 in Dundalk, Co. Armagh - contrary to family lore that he was from Enniskillen) came to Glasgow with his parents, Thomas and Ann. Thomas was a colliery stoker and Patrick was a coalminer until he joined the Royal Navy in WW1 and served as a Stoker (1st class) until he was demob'd in 1918. Thomas, his father, was in the British Army King's Liverpool Regt. (we think) from Oct 1914 until demob in July 1919 serving with the Army Service Corps (Transport) and decorated with The Victory Medal and British War Medal - which means he saw active service - most probably in France at Passchendale and Ypres among others. We don't know anything more about Thomas other than that he was probably Irish as no earlier Scottish Records exist for the name other than his and Ann's name on Patrick's marriage cert in 1913 in Glasgow. Indeed, Pat's Navy record of his date and place of birth put Thomas and Ann in Dundalk in 1889 so they must be Irish. Funnily enough, Patrick went off to the US in the interwar years and didn't come back until 1966 when his wife, Catherine (Kitty) was at death's door. He then died in 1968 a few months before I was born. Before leaving he had started working for a shipping firm called the Anchor Line on the SS Cameronia as a marine stoker. You'll find manifests for him on the Ellis Island site as crew. I presume he jumped ship or somehow else got himself into America because he eventually became a US citizen. I've got his US ss number etc but it only gives his last pension location as c/o one of the Consulates, presumably the British Consulate. We've always assumed he went to hook up with relatives - possible in NY. Old St Pats in NY have "McEvinney" marriage records as far back as 1855. That's presumably your branch, if the McGivney/McEvinney mutation is correct, so if there is a connection between us it's probably in the early to mid C.19th in Ireland around what is now the border with the North. As for Ireland, all I've got is a search result from Griffiths Valuation 1848-1864 listing three "McEvinny" names as follows; Mc Evinny, Bridget, County: Cavan, Parish: Drumgoon, Location: Magh'ure/T/Coote./Cav. New Mc Evinny, James County: Monaghan Parish: Clones Location: Clones, Fermanagh St Mc Evinny, Thomas County: Monaghan Parish: Monaghan Location: Monaghan, Roosky-Lane We don't yet know if this Thomas is our Thomas but there seems to have been a practice of passing down grandfather's name, i.e. my father - Patrick, g'father -Thomas, gg'father - Patrick, ggg'father - Thomas. Also Patrick (my gg'father) had a son who died in infancy called James so the two above are probably connected somewhere. My gg'father Patrick (of US fame) was born 1889 and had his kids in his twenties so if that pattern had been repeated from Thomas, 1848-1864 could be the right time for him to be born but that wouldn't explain why he would be listed as the main occupant of a house. It's a bit late for him to be left alone from the Famine so it might not be him at all. That's as far as we've got here but it looks as though Armagh/Cavan/Monaghan is the area to concentrate on. There's definitely none of us in Dublin as I was there a couple of weeks ago and there's no-one in the phone book. The good thing about McEvinney is that it's so unusual so Happy hunting. If you get anything interesting drop me a line at mky31@fsmail.net Slan go foil Mark.