Hi Robyn, Well...I have been playing with the Y-DNA for the past three years so am getting an idea on it eh. The MtDNA may be taken from my sample I sent to www.smgf.org but think I would have to pay for it to be given to me. They are doing a one off special at present of 26 markers on the Y-DNA, and also on the MtDNA....both for $US95.00 each. Makes the place where I did my Y-DNA look expensive but is actually cheap if done with a surname Project like we did. I am more than satisfied with my Y-DNA information, but would have to read the book to decide whether there is anything worth while in doing the MtDNA eh. Hooray, Warren. ----- Original Message ----- From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. > Warren, the book has obviously some scientific data in it that appears a > little hard if you do not have that sought of a background, but he repeats > things and eventually you can work things out. The Professor has been > involved with the BBC science programmes which gives him an ability to > talk to the wider community on a level we can understand. My husband & I > (he being a doctor) thoroughly enjoyed both of the books, he thought they > were very well written. > > Enjoy the books, > Robyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> > To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:37 PM > Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. > > >> Hi Robyn, >> >> Thanks for that....I reckon I will interlibrary loan that from out >> Library eh :) >> >> Hooray, >> >> Warren.....Ballarat. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> >> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:44 AM >> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >> >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> The Seven Daughters of Eve was written by Professor Bryan Sykes from the >>> Genetics Department of Oxford University & it is a most interesting >>> read. Professor Sykes has written a second novel Adams Curse which >>> relates to the YChromosone & this is the male line, it is worth reading. >>> >>> Robyn >>> Australia >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> >>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:22 AM >>> Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>> >>> >>>> Thanks for the nice comments Diane. >>>> >>>> Actually there is a DNA that the female may participate in.....as well >>>> as the male....called MtDNA. This is passed on to the children....both >>>> male and female....by the mother. The male is unable to pass this on >>>> though. This is tracking the maternal DNA back to the Seven Daughters >>>> of Eve. A book by this name was put out by a Professor..the name eludes >>>> me I am afraid. This DNA, however, does not help much in genealogy. It >>>> takes in all the female line. So....taking my MtDNA....my mother was a >>>> GOVAN, her mother was a MAYALL, her mother was a BRIDGFORD, her mother >>>> was a HONEYBONE, and her mother was Harriet STEVENS. By this time we >>>> are back to late 1700s...early 1800s. The MtDNA carries on right back >>>> to the beginning of time and shows where abouts your maternal side >>>> began. Interesting perhaps but not exactly helpful for genealogy....I >>>> think. >>>> >>>> >>>> Hooray, >>>> >>>> >>>> Warren. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Diane Apel" <dianeapel@comcast.net> >>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:09 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>> >>>> >>>>>I have read of many families doing this DNA. It is my understanding it >>>>>can only be >>>>> done through the male DNA however, so that leaves us women out, which >>>>> is >>>>> a shame. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, however, for the interesting history lesson. You are right >>>>> on the mark >>>>> with many of your observations and obviously have studied a great >>>>> deal. I am >>>>> reading IRELAND by Frank Delaney currently, and although it is a >>>>> novel, it >>>>> incorporates many of the observations you make, so has a lot of >>>>> historical >>>>> significance about the Irish people for those of us trying to >>>>> understand our roots. >>>>> We all will come to a road block in our personal searches, but these >>>>> histories give >>>>> us a general feel for the times and place our ancestors all passed >>>>> through! >>>>> >>>>> Good luck! Thanks again, Diane >>>>> >>>>> Researching Spooner, O'Grady, Kearney in Tipperary >>>>> Curley, Farrell in Clare >>>>> >>>>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>>>> Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and >>>>> everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday >>>>> (depending on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary >>>>> Time. This means the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York >>>>> and Montreal; 3pm in California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in Perth; >>>>> 10am (Friday) in Sydney; 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>>> To Unsubscribe: Send email to IRL-TIPPERARY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >>>> Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. >>>> For digest the address is IRL-TIPPERARY-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >>>> [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>> Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and >>> everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday >>> (depending on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary Time. >>> This means the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York and >>> Montreal; 3pm in California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in Perth; 10am >>> (Friday) in Sydney; 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. >>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >> IGP County Tipperary Message Board: >> http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 >> >> > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Reminder! Remove (<snip>) as much of the Original Message as > possible when replying to a List Posting. Include just the part of > the original message important to your reply. > > >

Warren, I had the MtDNA test purely to see where in the world my female line came from. Matches have got in touch with me but as I say to them we could be related anywhere in the last 20,000 years, that is where Helene comes into the picture. I see you are from Ballarat! I am from the Blayney family of Ballarat, a few of them in the cemetary down there. Edward Blayney was involved with mining the bluestone & also ran a few pubs in his time. Robyn Rockhampton. Qld. ps. Also my McHenry family were in Ballarat ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:35 PM Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. > Hi Robyn, > > Well...I have been playing with the Y-DNA for the past three years so am > getting an idea on it eh. The MtDNA may be taken from my sample I sent to > www.smgf.org but think I would have to pay for it to be given to me. They > are doing a one off special at present of 26 markers on the Y-DNA, and > also on the MtDNA....both for $US95.00 each. Makes the place where I did > my Y-DNA look expensive but is actually cheap if done with a surname > Project like we did. I am more than satisfied with my Y-DNA information, > but would have to read the book to decide whether there is anything worth > while in doing the MtDNA eh. > > Hooray, > > > Warren. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> > To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:18 PM > Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. > > >> Warren, the book has obviously some scientific data in it that appears a >> little hard if you do not have that sought of a background, but he >> repeats things and eventually you can work things out. The Professor has >> been involved with the BBC science programmes which gives him an ability >> to talk to the wider community on a level we can understand. My husband >> & I (he being a doctor) thoroughly enjoyed both of the books, he thought >> they were very well written. >> >> Enjoy the books, >> Robyn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> >> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:37 PM >> Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >> >> >>> Hi Robyn, >>> >>> Thanks for that....I reckon I will interlibrary loan that from out >>> Library eh :) >>> >>> Hooray, >>> >>> Warren.....Ballarat. >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> >>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:44 AM >>> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>> >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> The Seven Daughters of Eve was written by Professor Bryan Sykes from >>>> the Genetics Department of Oxford University & it is a most interesting >>>> read. Professor Sykes has written a second novel Adams Curse which >>>> relates to the YChromosone & this is the male line, it is worth >>>> reading. >>>> >>>> Robyn >>>> Australia >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> >>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:22 AM >>>> Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the nice comments Diane. >>>>> >>>>> Actually there is a DNA that the female may participate in.....as well >>>>> as the male....called MtDNA. This is passed on to the children....both >>>>> male and female....by the mother. The male is unable to pass this on >>>>> though. This is tracking the maternal DNA back to the Seven Daughters >>>>> of Eve. A book by this name was put out by a Professor..the name >>>>> eludes me I am afraid. This DNA, however, does not help much in >>>>> genealogy. It takes in all the female line. So....taking my >>>>> MtDNA....my mother was a GOVAN, her mother was a MAYALL, her mother >>>>> was a BRIDGFORD, her mother was a HONEYBONE, and her mother was >>>>> Harriet STEVENS. By this time we are back to late 1700s...early 1800s. >>>>> The MtDNA carries on right back to the beginning of time and shows >>>>> where abouts your maternal side began. Interesting perhaps but not >>>>> exactly helpful for genealogy....I think. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hooray, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Warren. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Diane Apel" <dianeapel@comcast.net> >>>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:09 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I have read of many families doing this DNA. It is my understanding >>>>>>it can only be >>>>>> done through the male DNA however, so that leaves us women out, which >>>>>> is >>>>>> a shame. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, however, for the interesting history lesson. You are right >>>>>> on the mark >>>>>> with many of your observations and obviously have studied a great >>>>>> deal. I am >>>>>> reading IRELAND by Frank Delaney currently, and although it is a >>>>>> novel, it >>>>>> incorporates many of the observations you make, so has a lot of >>>>>> historical >>>>>> significance about the Irish people for those of us trying to >>>>>> understand our roots. >>>>>> We all will come to a road block in our personal searches, but these >>>>>> histories give >>>>>> us a general feel for the times and place our ancestors all passed >>>>>> through! >>>>>> >>>>>> Good luck! Thanks again, Diane >>>>>> >>>>>> Researching Spooner, O'Grady, Kearney in Tipperary >>>>>> Curley, Farrell in Clare >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>>>>> Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and >>>>>> everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday >>>>>> (depending on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary >>>>>> Time. This means the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York >>>>>> and Montreal; 3pm in California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in Perth; >>>>>> 10am (Friday) in Sydney; 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. >>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>>>> To Unsubscribe: Send email to IRL-TIPPERARY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >>>>> Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. >>>>> For digest the address is IRL-TIPPERARY-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >>>>> [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>>> Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and >>>> everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday >>>> (depending on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary Time. >>>> This means the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York and >>>> Montreal; 3pm in California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in Perth; 10am >>>> (Friday) in Sydney; 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. >>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>> IGP County Tipperary Message Board: >>> http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >> Reminder! Remove (<snip>) as much of the Original Message as >> possible when replying to a List Posting. Include just the part of >> the original message important to your reply. >> >> >> > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > IGP County Tipperary Message Board: > http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 > >

Hi Robyn, Well ...I was up in Rockhampton as a Chaperone, with my wife, for overseas students of ASSE....back in 1990. I bought a white straw "cowboy" hat whilst there that I use while mowing the lawn each summer. I take it Helene was one of the seven daughters? And where did she come from? I suppose it would be similar to Y-DNA ....if you had an exact match it would be closer to the here now? Who did you do your testing through? Were they any good....did you learn anything and were you happy with the outcome? Can not make up my mind whether to go down that track or not as I have not seen anything on the net that says this is the thing for me eh. The Y-DNA, on the other hand, has given me a lot of information on where my ancestors came from, albeit at a large distance. I feel this would come right forward once people decide to join the few thousand of us who have done the test. I would love to see all the POWERs in Waterford to the test and find I had an exact match with someone there. Unfortunately, to date, I have been unable to raise one POWER on that List :)) Hooray, Warren. ----- Original Message ----- From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. > Warren, > > I had the MtDNA test purely to see where in the world my female line came > from. Matches have got in touch with me but as I say to them we could be > related anywhere in the last 20,000 years, that is where Helene comes into > the picture. > I see you are from Ballarat! I am from the Blayney family of Ballarat, a > few of them in the cemetary down there. > Edward Blayney was involved with mining the bluestone & also ran a few > pubs in his time. > > Robyn > Rockhampton. Qld. > > ps. Also my McHenry family were in Ballarat > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> > To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:35 PM > Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. > > >> Hi Robyn, >> >> Well...I have been playing with the Y-DNA for the past three years so am >> getting an idea on it eh. The MtDNA may be taken from my sample I sent >> to www.smgf.org but think I would have to pay for it to be given to me. >> They are doing a one off special at present of 26 markers on the Y-DNA, >> and also on the MtDNA....both for $US95.00 each. Makes the place where I >> did my Y-DNA look expensive but is actually cheap if done with a surname >> Project like we did. I am more than satisfied with my Y-DNA information, >> but would have to read the book to decide whether there is anything worth >> while in doing the MtDNA eh. >> >> Hooray, >> >> >> Warren. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> >> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >> >> >>> Warren, the book has obviously some scientific data in it that appears a >>> little hard if you do not have that sought of a background, but he >>> repeats things and eventually you can work things out. The Professor has >>> been involved with the BBC science programmes which gives him an ability >>> to talk to the wider community on a level we can understand. My husband >>> & I (he being a doctor) thoroughly enjoyed both of the books, he thought >>> they were very well written. >>> >>> Enjoy the books, >>> Robyn >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> >>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:37 PM >>> Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>> >>> >>>> Hi Robyn, >>>> >>>> Thanks for that....I reckon I will interlibrary loan that from out >>>> Library eh :) >>>> >>>> Hooray, >>>> >>>> Warren.....Ballarat. >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> >>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:44 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> The Seven Daughters of Eve was written by Professor Bryan Sykes from >>>>> the Genetics Department of Oxford University & it is a most >>>>> interesting read. Professor Sykes has written a second novel Adams >>>>> Curse which relates to the YChromosone & this is the male line, it is >>>>> worth reading. >>>>> >>>>> Robyn >>>>> Australia >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> >>>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:22 AM >>>>> Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for the nice comments Diane. >>>>>> >>>>>> Actually there is a DNA that the female may participate in.....as >>>>>> well as the male....called MtDNA. This is passed on to the >>>>>> children....both male and female....by the mother. The male is unable >>>>>> to pass this on though. This is tracking the maternal DNA back to the >>>>>> Seven Daughters of Eve. A book by this name was put out by a >>>>>> Professor..the name eludes me I am afraid. This DNA, however, does >>>>>> not help much in genealogy. It takes in all the female line. >>>>>> So....taking my MtDNA....my mother was a GOVAN, her mother was a >>>>>> MAYALL, her mother was a BRIDGFORD, her mother was a HONEYBONE, and >>>>>> her mother was Harriet STEVENS. By this time we are back to late >>>>>> 1700s...early 1800s. The MtDNA carries on right back to the beginning >>>>>> of time and shows where abouts your maternal side began. Interesting >>>>>> perhaps but not exactly helpful for genealogy....I think. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hooray, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Warren. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Diane Apel" <dianeapel@comcast.net> >>>>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:09 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>I have read of many families doing this DNA. It is my understanding >>>>>>>it can only be >>>>>>> done through the male DNA however, so that leaves us women out, >>>>>>> which is >>>>>>> a shame. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, however, for the interesting history lesson. You are right >>>>>>> on the mark >>>>>>> with many of your observations and obviously have studied a great >>>>>>> deal. I am >>>>>>> reading IRELAND by Frank Delaney currently, and although it is a >>>>>>> novel, it >>>>>>> incorporates many of the observations you make, so has a lot of >>>>>>> historical >>>>>>> significance about the Irish people for those of us trying to >>>>>>> understand our roots. >>>>>>> We all will come to a road block in our personal searches, but these >>>>>>> histories give >>>>>>> us a general feel for the times and place our ancestors all passed >>>>>>> through! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good luck! Thanks again, Diane >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Researching Spooner, O'Grady, Kearney in Tipperary >>>>>>> Curley, Farrell in Clare >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>>>>>> Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and >>>>>>> everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday >>>>>>> (depending on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary >>>>>>> Time. This means the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York >>>>>>> and Montreal; 3pm in California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in >>>>>>> Perth; 10am (Friday) in Sydney; 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. >>>>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>>>>> To Unsubscribe: Send email to IRL-TIPPERARY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >>>>>> Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. >>>>>> For digest the address is IRL-TIPPERARY-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >>>>>> [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>>>> Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and >>>>> everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday >>>>> (depending on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary >>>>> Time. This means the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York >>>>> and Montreal; 3pm in California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in Perth; >>>>> 10am (Friday) in Sydney; 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. >>>>> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>>> IGP County Tipperary Message Board: >>>> http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>> Reminder! Remove (<snip>) as much of the Original Message as >>> possible when replying to a List Posting. Include just the part of >>> the original message important to your reply. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >> IGP County Tipperary Message Board: >> http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 >> >> > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > IGP County Tipperary Message Board: > http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 > > >