Hi Warren, I have done my MtDNA with www.familytreedna.com , I was going to take this test with www.oxfordancestors.com , I think that is who they are, this is where Professor Sykes is, but as I started my YChromosone with a Canadian lady with familytreedna I thought it best I stay with them. Have you put your results to YSearch.org . Helene is from Professor Sykes book, other labs just use the initial H . Helene is from south western France. I only went into this research to see where my female line came from I did not expect to link with other females, maybe in time this will happen, but I think a lot of females will have to participate before we have better results, my girls as I know them are from Staffordshire in the UK. I will leave you to sought all of this out. Sincerely, Robyn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. > Hi Robyn, > > Well ...I was up in Rockhampton as a Chaperone, with my wife, for overseas > students of ASSE....back in 1990. I bought a white straw "cowboy" hat > whilst there that I use while mowing the lawn each summer. > > I take it Helene was one of the seven daughters? And where did she come > from? I suppose it would be similar to Y-DNA ....if you had an exact > match it would be closer to the here now? Who did you do your testing > through? Were they any good....did you learn anything and were you happy > with the outcome? Can not make up my mind whether to go down that track or > not as I have not seen anything on the net that says this is the thing for > me eh. The Y-DNA, on the other hand, has given me a lot of information on > where my ancestors came from, albeit at a large distance. I feel this > would come right forward once people decide to join the few thousand of us > who have done the test. I would love to see all the POWERs in Waterford > to the test and find I had an exact match with someone there. > Unfortunately, to date, I have been unable to raise one POWER on that List > :)) > > > Hooray, > > > Warren. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> > To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:30 PM > Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. > > >> Warren, >> >> I had the MtDNA test purely to see where in the world my female line came >> from. Matches have got in touch with me but as I say to them we could be >> related anywhere in the last 20,000 years, that is where Helene comes >> into the picture. >> I see you are from Ballarat! I am from the Blayney family of Ballarat, a >> few of them in the cemetary down there. >> Edward Blayney was involved with mining the bluestone & also ran a few >> pubs in his time. >> >> Robyn >> Rockhampton. Qld. >> >> ps. Also my McHenry family were in Ballarat >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> >> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:35 PM >> Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >> >> >>> Hi Robyn, >>> >>> Well...I have been playing with the Y-DNA for the past three years so am >>> getting an idea on it eh. The MtDNA may be taken from my sample I sent >>> to www.smgf.org but think I would have to pay for it to be given to me. >>> They are doing a one off special at present of 26 markers on the Y-DNA, >>> and also on the MtDNA....both for $US95.00 each. Makes the place where >>> I did my Y-DNA look expensive but is actually cheap if done with a >>> surname Project like we did. I am more than satisfied with my Y-DNA >>> information, but would have to read the book to decide whether there is >>> anything worth while in doing the MtDNA eh. >>> >>> Hooray, >>> >>> >>> Warren. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> >>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:18 PM >>> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>> >>> >>>> Warren, the book has obviously some scientific data in it that appears >>>> a little hard if you do not have that sought of a background, but he >>>> repeats things and eventually you can work things out. The Professor >>>> has been involved with the BBC science programmes which gives him an >>>> ability to talk to the wider community on a level we can understand. >>>> My husband & I (he being a doctor) thoroughly enjoyed both of the >>>> books, he thought they were very well written. >>>> >>>> Enjoy the books, >>>> Robyn >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> >>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:37 PM >>>> Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi Robyn, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for that....I reckon I will interlibrary loan that from out >>>>> Library eh :) >>>>> >>>>> Hooray, >>>>> >>>>> Warren.....Ballarat. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> >>>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:44 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> The Seven Daughters of Eve was written by Professor Bryan Sykes from >>>>>> the Genetics Department of Oxford University & it is a most >>>>>> interesting read. Professor Sykes has written a second novel Adams >>>>>> Curse which relates to the YChromosone & this is the male line, it is >>>>>> worth reading. >>>>>> >>>>>> Robyn >>>>>> Australia >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> >>>>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:22 AM >>>>>> Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the nice comments Diane. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Actually there is a DNA that the female may participate in.....as >>>>>>> well as the male....called MtDNA. This is passed on to the >>>>>>> children....both male and female....by the mother. The male is >>>>>>> unable to pass this on though. This is tracking the maternal DNA >>>>>>> back to the Seven Daughters of Eve. A book by this name was put out >>>>>>> by a Professor..the name eludes me I am afraid. This DNA, however, >>>>>>> does not help much in genealogy. It takes in all the female line. >>>>>>> So....taking my MtDNA....my mother was a GOVAN, her mother was a >>>>>>> MAYALL, her mother was a BRIDGFORD, her mother was a HONEYBONE, and >>>>>>> her mother was Harriet STEVENS. By this time we are back to late >>>>>>> 1700s...early 1800s. The MtDNA carries on right back to the >>>>>>> beginning of time and shows where abouts your maternal side began. >>>>>>> Interesting perhaps but not exactly helpful for genealogy....I >>>>>>> think. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hooray, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Warren. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Diane Apel" <dianeapel@comcast.net> >>>>>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:09 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I have read of many families doing this DNA. It is my understanding >>>>>>>>it can only be >>>>>>>> done through the male DNA however, so that leaves us women out, >>>>>>>> which is >>>>>>>> a shame. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, however, for the interesting history lesson. You are >>>>>>>> right on the mark >>>>>>>> with many of your observations and obviously have studied a great >>>>>>>> deal. I am >>>>>>>> reading IRELAND by Frank Delaney currently, and although it is a >>>>>>>> novel, it >>>>>>>> incorporates many of the observations you make, so has a lot of >>>>>>>> historical >>>>>>>> significance about the Irish people for those of us trying to >>>>>>>> understand our roots. >>>>>>>> We all will come to a road block in our personal searches, but >>>>>>>> these histories give >>>>>>>> us a general feel for the times and place our ancestors all passed >>>>>>>> through! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good luck! 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