Hi Robyn, Well....you have done the expensive DNA with the MtDNA so I guess it doesn't matter where you do the other. I take it you mean your brother or Uncle's Y-DNA..or husbands. Yes...I went through Familytreedna too. They were the cheapest and appear quite capable. Now of course there is Ethnoancestry and www.smgf.org to look at and as the latter is doing a special deal I would be looking at them if I were doing it now. Yes....I have put my results at ysearch.org ....and ybase.org too. With the MtDNA I am back to Harriet STEVENS in Ramsbury, Wiltshire, England in about the 1800s so that could go anywhere by the time we are back to the seven daughters eh. I thought Helene was one of the daughters :)) ----- Original Message ----- From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2005 12:18 AM Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. > Hi Warren, > > I have done my MtDNA with www.familytreedna.com , I was going to take this > test with www.oxfordancestors.com , I think that is who they are, this is > where Professor Sykes is, but as I started my YChromosone with a Canadian > lady with familytreedna I thought it best I stay with them. Have you put > your results to YSearch.org . > > Helene is from Professor Sykes book, other labs just use the initial H . > Helene is from south western France. I only went into this research to > see where my female line came from I did not expect to link with other > females, maybe in time this will happen, but I think a lot of females will > have to participate before we have better results, my girls as I know them > are from Staffordshire in the UK. > > I will leave you to sort all of this out. > > Sincerely, > Robyn > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> > To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:54 PM > Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. > > >> Hi Robyn, >> >> Well ...I was up in Rockhampton as a Chaperone, with my wife, for >> overseas students of ASSE....back in 1990. I bought a white straw >> "cowboy" hat whilst there that I use while mowing the lawn each summer. >> >> I take it Helene was one of the seven daughters? And where did she come >> from? I suppose it would be similar to Y-DNA ....if you had an exact >> match it would be closer to the here now? Who did you do your testing >> through? Were they any good....did you learn anything and were you happy >> with the outcome? Can not make up my mind whether to go down that track >> or not as I have not seen anything on the net that says this is the thing >> for me eh. The Y-DNA, on the other hand, has given me a lot of >> information on where my ancestors came from, albeit at a large distance. >> I feel this would come right forward once people decide to join the few >> thousand of us who have done the test. I would love to see all the >> POWERs in Waterford to the test and find I had an exact match with >> someone there. Unfortunately, to date, I have been unable to raise one >> POWER on that List :)) >> >> >> Hooray, >> >> >> Warren. >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> >> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 5:30 PM >> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >> >> >>> Warren, >>> >>> I had the MtDNA test purely to see where in the world my female line >>> came from. Matches have got in touch with me but as I say to them we >>> could be related anywhere in the last 20,000 years, that is where Helene >>> comes into the picture. >>> I see you are from Ballarat! I am from the Blayney family of Ballarat, >>> a few of them in the cemetary down there. >>> Edward Blayney was involved with mining the bluestone & also ran a few >>> pubs in his time. >>> >>> Robyn >>> Rockhampton. Qld. >>> >>> ps. Also my McHenry family were in Ballarat >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> >>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 3:35 PM >>> Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>> >>> >>>> Hi Robyn, >>>> >>>> Well...I have been playing with the Y-DNA for the past three years so >>>> am getting an idea on it eh. The MtDNA may be taken from my sample I >>>> sent to www.smgf.org but think I would have to pay for it to be given >>>> to me. They are doing a one off special at present of 26 markers on the >>>> Y-DNA, and also on the MtDNA....both for $US95.00 each. Makes the >>>> place where I did my Y-DNA look expensive but is actually cheap if done >>>> with a surname Project like we did. I am more than satisfied with my >>>> Y-DNA information, but would have to read the book to decide whether >>>> there is anything worth while in doing the MtDNA eh. >>>> >>>> Hooray, >>>> >>>> >>>> Warren. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> >>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 4:18 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Warren, the book has obviously some scientific data in it that appears >>>>> a little hard if you do not have that sought of a background, but he >>>>> repeats things and eventually you can work things out. The Professor >>>>> has been involved with the BBC science programmes which gives him an >>>>> ability to talk to the wider community on a level we can understand. >>>>> My husband & I (he being a doctor) thoroughly enjoyed both of the >>>>> books, he thought they were very well written. >>>>> >>>>> Enjoy the books, >>>>> Robyn >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> >>>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:37 PM >>>>> Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Robyn, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for that....I reckon I will interlibrary loan that from out >>>>>> Library eh :) >>>>>> >>>>>> Hooray, >>>>>> >>>>>> Warren.....Ballarat. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> >>>>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:44 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Seven Daughters of Eve was written by Professor Bryan Sykes from >>>>>>> the Genetics Department of Oxford University & it is a most >>>>>>> interesting read. Professor Sykes has written a second novel Adams >>>>>>> Curse which relates to the YChromosone & this is the male line, it >>>>>>> is worth reading. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Robyn >>>>>>> Australia >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Mokurai" <mokurai@jigsawdesigns.net> >>>>>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 8:22 AM >>>>>>> Subject: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the nice comments Diane. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Actually there is a DNA that the female may participate in.....as >>>>>>>> well as the male....called MtDNA. This is passed on to the >>>>>>>> children....both male and female....by the mother. The male is >>>>>>>> unable to pass this on though. This is tracking the maternal DNA >>>>>>>> back to the Seven Daughters of Eve. A book by this name was put out >>>>>>>> by a Professor..the name eludes me I am afraid. This DNA, however, >>>>>>>> does not help much in genealogy. It takes in all the female line. >>>>>>>> So....taking my MtDNA....my mother was a GOVAN, her mother was a >>>>>>>> MAYALL, her mother was a BRIDGFORD, her mother was a HONEYBONE, and >>>>>>>> her mother was Harriet STEVENS. By this time we are back to late >>>>>>>> 1700s...early 1800s. The MtDNA carries on right back to the >>>>>>>> beginning of time and shows where abouts your maternal side began. >>>>>>>> Interesting perhaps but not exactly helpful for genealogy....I >>>>>>>> think. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hooray, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Warren. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Diane Apel" <dianeapel@comcast.net> >>>>>>>> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:09 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - A wee bit of history. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>I have read of many families doing this DNA. It is my >>>>>>>>>understanding it can only be >>>>>>>>> done through the male DNA however, so that leaves us women out, >>>>>>>>> which is >>>>>>>>> a shame. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, however, for the interesting history lesson. You are >>>>>>>>> right on the mark >>>>>>>>> with many of your observations and obviously have studied a great >>>>>>>>> deal. I am >>>>>>>>> reading IRELAND by Frank Delaney currently, and although it is a >>>>>>>>> novel, it >>>>>>>>> incorporates many of the observations you make, so has a lot of >>>>>>>>> historical >>>>>>>>> significance about the Irish people for those of us trying to >>>>>>>>> understand our roots. >>>>>>>>> We all will come to a road block in our personal searches, but >>>>>>>>> these histories give >>>>>>>>> us a general feel for the times and place our ancestors all passed >>>>>>>>> through! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good luck! 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