8-1-1835 The Tipperary Free Press published in Clonmel states-"Two murders were committed in the public streets of Thurles on Saturday last between 3 and 4 O'Clock, by individuals who are known, and one of them is in custody fully charged, the other after slaying his victim, went deliberately through the streets and by the police barracks, and has not since been heard of. One of the persons was named Egan, from Toomevara, the other Cantwell from Whitefield. A Rival journal the Clonmel Herald, published in the same town and the same day, gives a totally different version in every particular, save that two murders had been comitted in the Streets in Thurles. It says "that there was only one murderer, who worked in a tobacco manufactory in Thurles, named Maher, who, after a hot pursuit by the police, swam a river and escaped: that the two murdered men were both named Ryan, the first killed in the street by a blow of a stick loaded with lead, which instantly deprived him of life, the second in Pudding-Lane, by the blow of a stone which knocked him out. That one of the murdered men was from the Colliery, the other from Wingfield near Templemore, further that the deed was comitted on Sunday. . These accounts could scarcely be reconciled if last Saturday night's Gazette did not furnish a clue by the offer of 100s. reward for the apprehension of Michael Maher , who on the 27th attacked John Egan, (not on the street, but) on the road from Thurles to Toomevara, beat him, and broke his skull, of which he has since died. The Gazette does not even take notice of the second murder. The last mentioned journal states, that on Monday morning last , at so public an hour as 9 O'Clock, 13 men, well armed with long guns, proceeded through the County, to Milltown, to a farm belonging to Mr. Doherty, where they left a threatening notice and inflicted personal abuse on the caretaker named Devane, ordering him to give up his situation and holding. As they were seen going in the direction of Mr. Murphys, of Woodford, about 60 of his tenantry collected, and supposing that the armed men were going to attack the owner, offered their assistance to repel them, and if Mr. Murphy would assist, to attack and secure the 13. This Mr.Murphy (having but one gun in his house) prudentially declined, and the party passed in peace. They were subsequently observed and pursued by Captain Long (magistrate) assisted by the Rev. Mr. Moloney, Roman Catholic Curate of Clonoulty, and the Police of the stations which they successively passed at Rathcannon, Thomastown, and Bansha, till their horses were tired, and they finally lost all sight and trace of the marauders at Grantstown. The threatening notice is given at length. It is stated to be written in a good hand, and evinces a superior style of Whiteboy literature. Mary

Hello Mary, As always, your newspaper clippings spark interest. I know it's a long straw I'm drawing here, but would you know if there is any available information about the Michael Maher referred to in the Clonmel Herald clipping below. I know Maher might be a common name in County Tipperary but I have a strong suspicion that there could be a connection between this Michael Maher - and perhaps the 'Mr Murphy' mentioned in the Gazette - and a manslaughter case involving John Breen reported in the Clonmel Advertiser on 19 July 1836. John Breen (convict) came from Clonoulty and a Johanna Maher (born 1833 in the Towland of Brittas, Co Tipperary, to Timothy Maher and Mary Grace) later married a Denis Breen from the Townland of Clogher (baptised Clonoulty 7 Sep 1834) in Co. Tipperary. A few too many coincidences to be ignored, would you agree? Best wishes and thanks for your great contributions. Ron Norton Gordon ACT Australia ronn007@optusnet.com.au VET anti-virus protected ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Heaphy" <tipwex@eircom.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2006 12:38 AM Subject: [TIP] 8-1-1835 Tipp Newspapers 8-1-1835 The Tipperary Free Press published in Clonmel states-"Two murders were committed in the public streets of Thurles on Saturday last between 3 and 4 O'Clock, by individuals who are known, and one of them is in custody fully charged, the other after slaying his victim, went deliberately through the streets and by the police barracks, and has not since been heard of. One of the persons was named Egan, from Toomevara, the other Cantwell from Whitefield. A Rival journal the Clonmel Herald, published in the same town and the same day, gives a totally different version in every particular, save that two murders had been comitted in the Streets in Thurles. It says "that there was only one murderer, who worked in a tobacco manufactory in Thurles, named Maher, who, after a hot pursuit by the police, swam a river and escaped: that the two murdered men were both named Ryan, the first killed in the street by a blow of a stick loaded with lead, which instantly deprived him of life, the second in Pudding-Lane, by the blow of a stone which knocked him out. That one of the murdered men was from the Colliery, the other from Wingfield near Templemore, further that the deed was comitted on Sunday. . These accounts could scarcely be reconciled if last Saturday night's Gazette did not furnish a clue by the offer of 100s. reward for the apprehension of Michael Maher , who on the 27th attacked John Egan, (not on the street, but) on the road from Thurles to Toomevara, beat him, and broke his skull, of which he has since died. The Gazette does not even take notice of the second murder. The last mentioned journal states, that on Monday morning last , at so public an hour as 9 O'Clock, 13 men, well armed with long guns, proceeded through the County, to Milltown, to a farm belonging to Mr. Doherty, where they left a threatening notice and inflicted personal abuse on the caretaker named Devane, ordering him to give up his situation and holding. As they were seen going in the direction of Mr. Murphys, of Woodford, about 60 of his tenantry collected, and supposing that the armed men were going to attack the owner, offered their assistance to repel them, and if Mr. Murphy would assist, to attack and secure the 13. This Mr.Murphy (having but one gun in his house) prudentially declined, and the party passed in peace. They were subsequently observed and pursued by Captain Long (magistrate) assisted by the Rev. Mr. Moloney, Roman Catholic Curate of Clonoulty, and the Police of the stations which they successively passed at Rathcannon, Thomastown, and Bansha, till their horses were tired, and they finally lost all sight and trace of the marauders at Grantstown. The threatening notice is given at length. It is stated to be written in a good hand, and evinces a superior style of Whiteboy literature. Mary ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== Reminder! Remove (<snip>) as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include just the part of the original message important to your reply. -- ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 3463 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hi Ron, Nice to see you on the other side of the world!!!! Liz At 01:03 PM 28/05/2006, you wrote: >Hello Mary, > >As always, your newspaper clippings spark interest. > >I know it's a long straw I'm drawing here, but would you know if there is >any available >information about the Michael Maher referred to in the Clonmel Herald >clipping below. >I kn