Right you are. Looks like I dissed the wrong ancestor.<GRIN> Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "les wright" <olgeta@bigpond.net.au> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - Ireland > Niall is said to have had 12 sons!! Not all people with the names > mentioned will be related to Niall. My own family relationship has come > about through DNA, I was not even looking in that area. > Robyn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Kelly" <ocollaugh@comcast.net> > To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:07 PM > Subject: Re: [TIP] DNA - Ireland > > >>I have followed this report with interest. >> >> Too bad that Niall himself, according to history, was childless. >> >> He did however have 11 brothers and dozens of cousins. >> >> That record in reality would have to go to Niall's ancestors. >> >> One never knows for sure what they can believe in can they. >> >> My only relative in that bunch was O'Donnell, and that relationship was >> by marriage. >> >> Not even close. >> >> Don >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Christina Hunt" <filidh@carolina.rr.com> >> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Friday, January 20, 2006 10:45 AM >> Subject: [TIP] DNA - Ireland >> >> >>>I thought this was interesting... >>> Scientists discover most fertile Irish male >>> DUBLIN (Reuters) - Scientists in Ireland may have found the country's >>> most fertile male, >>> with more than 3 million men worldwide among his offspring. >>> >>> >>> The scientists, from Trinity College Dublin, have discovered that as >>> many as one in twelve >>> Irishmen could be descended from Niall of the Nine Hostages, a >>> 5th-century warlord who was >>> head of the most powerful dynasty in ancient Ireland. >>> His genetic legacy is almost as impressive as Genghis Khan, the Mongol >>> emperor who >>> conquered most of Asia in the 13th century and has nearly 16 million >>> descendants, said Dan >>> Bradley, who supervised the research. >>> "It's another link between profligacy and power," Bradley told Reuters. >>> "We're the first >>> generation on the planet where if you're successful you don't (always) >>> have more >>> children." >>> The research was carried out by Ph.D. student Laoise Moore, at the >>> Smurfit Institute of >>> Genetics at Trinity. Moore, testing the Y chromosome which is passed on >>> from fathers to >>> sons, examined DNA samples from 800 males across Ireland. >>> The results - which have been published in the American Journal of Human >>> Genetics - showed >>> the highest concentration of related males in northwest Ireland, where >>> one in five males >>> had the same Y chromosome. >>> Bradley said the results reminded the team of a similar study in central >>> Asia, where >>> scientists found 8 percent of men with the same Y chromosome. Subsequent >>> studies found >>> they shared the same chromosome as the dynasty linked to Genghis Khan. >>> "It made us wonder if there could be some sort of Genghis Khan effect in >>> Ireland and the >>> best candidate for it was Niall," Bradley said. >>> His team then consulted with genealogical experts who provided them with >>> a contemporary >>> list of people with surnames that are genealogically linked to the last >>> known relative of >>> the "Ui Neill" dynasty, which literally means descendants of Niall. >>> The results showed the new group had the same chromosome as those in the >>> original sample, >>> proving a link between them and the Niall descendents. >>> "The frequency (of the Y chromosome) was significantly higher in that >>> genealogical group >>> than any other group we tested," said Bradley, whose surname is also >>> linked to the >>> medieval warlord. >>> Other modern surnames tracing their ancestry to Niall include Gallagher, >>> Boyle, O'Donnell >>> and O'Doherty. >>> http://www.thedailyjournalonline.com/article.asp?ArticleId=218242&CategoryId=13003 >>> >>> >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>> IGP County Tipperary Message Board: >>> http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 >>> >>> >> >> >> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >> Reminder! Remove (<snip>) as much of the Original Message as >> possible when replying to a List Posting. Include just the part of >> the original message important to your reply. >> >> > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and > everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday (depending > on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary Time. This means > the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York and Montreal; 3pm in > California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in Perth; 10am (Friday) in Sydney; > 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm > >