Hello Carol, I too have been in search of a good source of Tipperary history. The best tipperary book I have found is called: "Tipperary History & Society", published by : Geography Publications edited by: William Nolan and Thomas McGrath. It is very comprehensive and deals with history more than genealogy. But it has some families in it. Do a search for "geography publications" there is a book for most of the modern countys Good luck! Clayton Cannaday >From: IRL-TIPPERARY-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: IRL-TIPPERARY-D Digest V06 #52 >Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 08:17:25 -0700 > >Content-Type: text/plain > >IRL-TIPPERARY-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 52 > >Today's Topics: > #1 SOMERS / HEAPHY/HEAFEY [Gloria Addis ><g-addis@ihug.co.nz>] > #2 Fwd: {not a subscriber} Irish Immi [Christina Hunt ><filidh@carolina.rr] > #3 Irish Emigration via London? ["Estelle Daniels" ><stelly__57@hotm] > #4 FW: re robinson ["Estelle Daniels" ><stelly__57@hotm] > #5 The best book on Tipperary history [Carol Dale ><coradsl@tpg.com.au>] > #6 BAGWELL, Riall, JACOB, Sankey, Pyk [Karen Bell ><jessandrak@netscape.ne] > #7 Re: [TIP] BAGWELL, Riall, JACOB, S [Janet Crawford ><reojan@gmail.com>] > #8 Drom and Inch ["Mary Heaphy" ><tipwex@eircom.net>] > #9 Re: [TIP] BAGWELL, Riall, JACOB, S [Karen Bell ><jessandrak@netscape.ne] > >Administrivia: >Please be sure to change the SUBJECT line!! > >To unsubscribe from IRL-TIPPERARY-D, send a message to > > IRL-TIPPERARY-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the IRL-TIPPERARY-D list administrator, send mail to >IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:00:46 +1300 >From: Gloria Addis <g-addis@ihug.co.nz> >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <43EAB05E.3000706@ihug.co.nz> >Subject: SOMERS / HEAPHY/HEAFEY >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Robert SOMERS B 1841 Tipperary M Margaret HEAPHY/HEAFEY B 1843 >Waterford in 1866 in Jersey Channel Islands then moved to New Zealand >with 2 children before 1879 .Can somebody please tell me what Townland >Robert came from and where they would off left from for the Channel >Islands.Thankyou Gloria. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #2 >Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 22:11:26 -0500 >From: Christina Hunt <filidh@carolina.rr.com> >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <200628221126.063410@VALUED-3253602F> >Subject: Fwd: {not a subscriber} Irish Immigrants >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Forwarded message... > >--- Original Message --- >From: "Lesley Moore" <lesleyandrobert@smartchat.net.au> >To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> >Cc: >Sent: Wed, 08 Feb 2006 19:19:27 -0700 >Subject: {not a subscriber} Irish Immigrants > > >Cant find John and Benjamin ROBINSON who came to Australia from >Tipperary in the mid 1800s. I know their father was Michael and >mother Helen(Ellen) Ralph. They were not convicts and everything >else seems to go to America when looking names of immigrants up. I >do not know dates or ship or even if the brothers came together. >On their marriage certificate has 'not stated' re most things and >on the death one of them as been in the Colonies abt. 35yrs. (so >makes abt. 1855 for one). I know what happened when they were >married here to death but not before coming over. Have written >many letters etc. but have hit the proverbial brick wall. Guess >John b.abt. 1835 and Benjamin 1837. Would love some help. >Lesley > >______________________________ >X-Message: #3 >Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 15:03:18 +1000 >From: "Estelle Daniels" <stelly__57@hotmail.com> >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <BAY7-F2310DD980A06CBBA20C2AD6030@phx.gbl> >Subject: Irish Emigration via London? >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >Hello List, >I am new to researching in Ireland and am trying to track my great >grandmother Ann BRYAN who emigrated to Australia in the mid-1870s. Her >mother Mary who could have been Mary NAIL/NEIL/BRYAN or OBRIEN joined her >daughter about 10 years later. > >Names fitting the above have been found on Shipping Registers in >Queensland >in similar time frames. > >On both accounts, the ships have left from Plymouth and/or London. The >ladies in question were definitely Irish and from Tipperary. > >Was it normal for the Irish to emigrate or be recorded as leaving from >England; or is it more likely that they had been living in England for >some >time or went there for the purposes of emigration to Queensland, Australia. > >I will welcome any ideas or suggestions. > >Estelle > >_________________________________________________________________ >careerone.com.au >http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fadsfac%2Enet%2Flink%2Easp%3Fcc%3DNWS014%2E19163%2E0%26clk%3D1%26creativeID%3D28927&_t=752722611&_m=EXT > >______________________________ >X-Message: #4 >Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:50:23 +1000 >From: "Estelle Daniels" <stelly__57@hotmail.com> >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <BAY116-F289012E4BF29C04571E32FD6030@phx.gbl> >Subject: FW: re robinson >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > >From: "Kevin and June" <therobos2@dodo.com.au> > >Subject: re robinson > >Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 16:28:49 +1000 > > >I thought i had come across the email I had been waiting for all the >years. > > Only it was John. and benjamin. > > I am search for george and his brother benjamin who were suppose to of > >come in together{ Robertson] they changed their name to robinson. but we > >know where george ended up with his children marrying into the thurecht > >family , > > but no sight of benjamin. > > > > June > >_________________________________________________________________ >New year, new job – there's more than 100,00 jobs at SEEK >http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=752315885&_r=Jan05_tagline&_m=EXT > >______________________________ >X-Message: #5 >Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 20:08:45 +1100 >From: Carol Dale <coradsl@tpg.com.au> >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20060209200721.00c30090@syd-mail.tpg.com.au> >Subject: The best book on Tipperary history >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > >Dear all, > >I have a limited budget, but want to buy one book that describes the >history of Tipperary. Does anybody have any favorites they would >recommend. I am building a library of history books for each area my >ancestors came from. > >Carol Dale >Researching Fogarty and Woodlock > >______________________________ >X-Message: #6 >Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 13:28:22 +0100 >From: Karen Bell <jessandrak@netscape.net> >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <43EB3566.9010509@netscape.net> >Subject: BAGWELL, Riall, JACOB, Sankey, Pyke, CLEBURNE, Jackson early 1700s >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Is anybody researching or come across any of the above names? > >The Riall, Jacob and Sankey families were prominant Presbyterian >families and all these families were intermarried with my ancestors. > >William Cleburne was of Ballycolliton (Ballycultan?) Castle. The >Bagwell's were from Clonmel and later Marlfield. > >Any information regarding any of these families would be very much >appreciated. I am looking specifically for info for the early to mid >1700s. > >Thanks, >Karen > >______________________________ >X-Message: #7 >Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 12:36:40 +0000 >From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <35bbfc2c0602090436i61cd3bb6r9c77b69dc5b7ae0e@mail.gmail.com> >Subject: Re: [TIP] BAGWELL, Riall, JACOB, Sankey, Pyke, CLEBURNE, Jackson >early 1700s >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > >Karen, I have one Sankey record. Catherine Sankey married William Quillinan >in 1772 in Fethard and they had six children there, all in the RC parish >records. Catherine had to be related to the following but I have no idea >how >as she probably was disinherited and never mentioned again: > >" 1715 - 22. Jacob Sankey of Mobarnane, elected nem. con. and sworn 20th >Dec. 1715, in the room of Mathew Jacob, his father in law who Resigned in >his favour: dead before 12th March, 1721/2: Sovereign 1719/20. [will 6th >September 1721: pr. 11th June 1723. He was son of Richard Sankey of Dublin >(d. 1693), Colonel in the army of King William]. (by Mary, dau of William >Taylor of Ballynort, Co. Limerick), son of Richard Sankey of Hodnet, >Salopshire, which Richard was a brother of Col. Hierome Sankey, the >Cromwellian governor of the precinct of Clonmel. Jacob Sankey m. in >Abagail >daughter. of Mathew Jacob (q.v) of St. Johnstown, and was *ancestor of the >Sankeys of Coolmore, near Fethard*. (BLG. 1879; Betham, Extracts. XXIII - >376, and Bewley, p.494 in G.O. Ireland under the Commonwealth, Dunlop, I - >27n. et passin." > >Janet > > >On 2/9/06, Karen Bell <jessandrak@netscape.net> wrote: > > > > Is anybody researching or come across any of the above names? > > > > The Riall, Jacob and Sankey families were prominant Presbyterian > > families and all these families were intermarried with my ancestors. > > > > William Cleburne was of Ballycolliton (Ballycultan?) Castle. The > > Bagwell's were from Clonmel and later Marlfield. > > > > Any information regarding any of these families would be very much > > appreciated. I am looking specifically for info for the early to mid > > 1700s. > > > > Thanks, > > Karen > > > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > > Online Tipperary Census: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/census_ndx.htm > > > > > >______________________________ >X-Message: #8 >Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 13:32:58 -0000 >From: "Mary Heaphy" <tipwex@eircom.net> >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <000401c62d83$45b5dcf0$46865ed5@YOURA9C5C808D4> >Subject: Drom and Inch >Content-Type: text/plain; > format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >DROM & INCH- 1840 MAP > > >The old Parishes of Drom, Inch, & Kilfithmone, were in Barony of Eliogarty; >and old parish of Barnane was in Ikerrin > > > >Drom:- Ardkeen, Brookley, Clonismullen, Clonbrasil, Drom, Graigue, >Kilvilcorris, Killaghagan, Knocka, Larha North, Larha South, Rathleasty, >Rorardstown Upper, Rorardstown Lower. > > > >Kilfithmone:- Ballinlonty, Coolgurt, Fishmoyne, Kilfithmone. > > > >Barnane (in Ikerrin):- Barnane, Killoskehan. > > > >Inch Parish:- Annefield (in it is graveyard of Kyleanna), Ballypatrick, >Bouladuff, Clonbeg, Cleykile, Clonmore, Cottage, Dovea Upper, Dovea Lower, >Goldengrove, Inch, Illannumera, Lisaroon, Liscreagh, Magherareagh, Munroe, >Mount-Catherine, Pallashill, Pollough[s]. > >Mary > >______________________________ >X-Message: #9 >Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 16:17:10 +0100 >From: Karen Bell <jessandrak@netscape.net> >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <43EB5CF6.4040504@netscape.net> >Subject: Re: [TIP] BAGWELL, Riall, JACOB, Sankey, Pyke, CLEBURNE, Jackson > early 1700s >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hello Janet, > >Thanks for the response and yes these are the correct Jacob and Sankey >families. I do have that information also plus some will excerpts but >also have no mention of the Catherine you have listed married to Wm. >Quillinan. I have a partial Jacob, Sankey tree but of course it is >almost exclusively males noted (typical !!). > >The Sankey were related to the following families: MINCHIN, JACOB, >LATHAM, MILLET & PERRY. > >If you are interested in the partial tree I have let me know and I'll be >happy to pass it on. >Thanks again, >Karen > >reojan@gmail.com wrote: > > >Karen, I have one Sankey record. Catherine Sankey married William >Quillinan > >in 1772 in Fethard and they had six children there, all in the RC parish > >records. Catherine had to be related to the following but I have no idea >how > >as she probably was disinherited and never mentioned again: > > > >" 1715 - 22. Jacob Sankey of Mobarnane, elected nem. con. and sworn >20th > >Dec. 1715, in the room of Mathew Jacob, his father in law who Resigned in > >his favour: dead before 12th March, 1721/2: Sovereign 1719/20. [will 6th > >September 1721: pr. 11th June 1723. He was son of Richard Sankey of >Dublin > >(d. 1693), Colonel in the army of King William]. (by Mary, dau of William > >Taylor of Ballynort, Co. Limerick), son of Richard Sankey of Hodnet, > >Salopshire, which Richard was a brother of Col. Hierome Sankey, the > >Cromwellian governor of the precinct of Clonmel. Jacob Sankey m. in >Abagail > >daughter. of Mathew Jacob (q.v) of St. Johnstown, and was *ancestor of >the > >Sankeys of Coolmore, near Fethard*. (BLG. 1879; Betham, Extracts. XXIII - > >376, and Bewley, p.494 in G.O. Ireland under the Commonwealth, Dunlop, I >- > >27n. et passin." > > > >Janet > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/