Hello Janet, Michael, and List, Many thanks for your respective emails. I think I have the picture of where this, shall we say, unusual, Ryan Lanty/Lanty Ryan family were living in the 19th C. I shall follow up your site for the Celtic Male Names of Ireland, Michael, it's one I did not know of though I put in some time googling originally, looking for "Lanty". Which brings me to Jenny Williams's useful newspaper snippets and the one you provided from the Nenagh "Guardian" 1839. In front of me now is a largish extract from the "Tipperary Free Press" for 20 July 1842. In the Nenagh Quarter Sessions a Lanty Ryan is to be transported for 15 years for cow stealing. Co-incidentally, I have also what must surely be this same Lanty Ryan's convict indent sheet made out initially as he boarded his transport vessel, "Navarino". I have this document as I was some time ago seeking to distinguish between the many Ryans, one of whom might have been a great-great-grandfather of mine. This Lanty Ryan was not my forebear, as it turned out, but was transported with the man who was. I provide a little detail about Lanty now just in case somebody can benefit. Lanty was a very badly behaved young man; before being taken in the matter of the cow stealing he "was an old offender" having been three times in court already. He had stolen a cow before, had served one month in prison for assault, and, on another occasion, two months in prison for "neglect of work". Prisoners from Nenagh were moved to Clonmel, and, at an appropriate time, thence to Dublin. "Navarino" on her second voyage, sailed to Van Diemen's Land on 22.9.1842. Lanty was very lucky to get such a quick passage; another relative of mine leaving from Cork a few years later had waited for four years for a placement. Lanty enjoyed good health (Surgeon's Report). He was aged 23 at the time of boarding, was 5ft 10" tall, with an oval face, brown hair and hazel eyes and freckled arms. His trade was entered as "Herdsman or Pl'man". If Lanty had been a naughty boy before Tasmania, the "fun" was just beginning once he got there. It would be little exaggeration to say that he was hardly ever out of trouble. A sample of this "trouble"?: refused to have his hair cut; neglected his duty; sent a "false and malicious statement" to an official; made away with some property entrusted to his care; assaulted the servant of the man to whom he was assigned; took off his clothes and exposed his person on a public road..... On 2 July, 1857 Lanty was a free man once again. I was rather sorry not to be able to claim Lanty as "mine" but maybe somebody reading this will be able to do so. Lastly, to put him into the geographical frame suggested, Lanty said his "native place" was Tipperary (town).