Jerry Lucky you to have such early dates. I'm also searching Cahir Parish for my O'BRIEN line, trying to find the baptism of Cunningham Porter O'BRIEN c1794 (he died 1842 aged 48) or the marriage of his parents who are unknown. His first child Jonathan Porter O'BRIEN was baptised at St Paul's in 1825. Could you please tell where you found the record of the early marriage of Ellen English to David Gorman and the marriage of Honora Gorman to Richard Tobin in 1783? There may be hope yet. Jennifer >I have an Ellen English who married a David Gorman in Cahir Parish. They had >a daughter, Honora Gorman - married Richard Tobin, on 28 Sept 1783. > >Jerry >