Everybody has had a say, so now let us just drop the Bradshaw debacle and get back to genealogy on the list. Tom On Aug 9, 2006, at 6:00 PM, IRL-TIPPERARY-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: IRL-TIPPERARY-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 209 Today's Topics: #1 Hogan [Barbara <wordsbt@bigpond.net.au>] #2 Apology to Paddy Waldron ["Janet Crawford" <reojan@gmail.com] Administrivia: Please be sure to change the SUBJECT line!! To unsubscribe from IRL-TIPPERARY-D, send a message to IRL-TIPPERARY-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the IRL-TIPPERARY-D list administrator, send mail to IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com. ______________________________ From: Barbara <wordsbt@bigpond.net.au> Date: August 9, 2006 12:09:45 AM PDT To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Hogan Hello everyone I'm new to this list, but what I have read so far is fascinating. I am researching my gggfather, Edmond Hogan who was transported to New South Wales along with three other members of his family in 1827. The others were Mathew, Michael and John (sounds like a pop song!). I believe Edmond and Mathew were brothers, not so sure about Michael and John. Maybe they were all brothers or maybe the latter two were cousins. Mathew and Michael were both born in 1795, Edmond in 1802 and John in 1809. They were tenants of the Mansergh estate at Grenane and Richard Mansergh wrote a submission on their behalf, but they were still transported. Perhaps it saved them from hanging as they were all convicted of the manslaughter of Charles McCarthy at the Killenaule Fair on 1 July 1826. I am now trying to find out more about the families of these four men. Both Mathew and Michael were married, with children before they were transported. Edmond married in Australia and had ten children and I am a descendant of his youngest child. Don't know anything about John. I think Edmond and Mathew's father was John and their mother was Eleanor Dwire (Dwyer). I would be so grateful to hear from anyone who might have further information on this family. I'm hoping to visit Ireland next May si I will definitely be visiting Tipperary. Best wishes Barbara Dobinson ______________________________ From: "Janet Crawford" <reojan@gmail.com> Date: August 9, 2006 7:30:51 AM PDT To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Apology to Paddy Waldron I have heard from Paddy and he has reminded me that a year and a half ago I did send him the file and I hereby publicly deeply apologize for the trouble, and in that I include all of you. I am also sorry that he was not able to answer Declan when the problem came up. At some point he sent the file to Declan without my knowledge. Since so much time had passed between my sending him my file and the truly startling message from Declan, I can only blame my early onset Alzheimer's for the gross memory failure. I will remind everyone that the file is old and contains errors that have since been resolved and which still has many questionable items yet to be resolved. Janet