Hi Pete, Our group actually has copies of Historical Maps of Ireland and Tipperary History, both good references. I will obtain a copy of An Historical Geography of Ireland. We would be most interested in maps of the Kingdoms and tuatha of the regions (pre1200 to 1600). If you are aware of any publications that descibe such maps or even pronounced descriptions of those areas please do forward them. It would be interesting to piece them together. Irish history is so amazingly torn and refused together that an accurate picture is sometimes lost. With the help of our members, we will reconstruct our knowledge base. Thank you for your help. Be well in Massachusetts! David >From: IRL-TIPPERARY-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: IRL-TIPPERARY-D Digest V06 #94 >Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:00:15 -0700 > >Content-Type: text/plain > >IRL-TIPPERARY-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 94 > >Today's Topics: > #1 WILLIAM TALBOT ["Ellen Crehan" ><ellencrehan@bigpon] > #2 Re: In search of: Maps of Tipperar [PeteScherm@aol.com] > >Administrivia: >Please be sure to change the SUBJECT line!! > >To unsubscribe from IRL-TIPPERARY-D, send a message to > > IRL-TIPPERARY-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the IRL-TIPPERARY-D list administrator, send mail to >IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:00:12 +1000 >From: "Ellen Crehan" <ellencrehan@bigpond.com> >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <003c01c650a2$ede0e220$0100000a@vic.bigpond.net.au> >Subject: WILLIAM TALBOT >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Greetings All, > >My GG Grandfather WILLIAM TALBOT emigrated from Ireland to Sydney >Australia.......around 1865. > > >He married Catherine Creedon in September 1871 at St Mary's Cathedral in >Sydney. They had 10 children. > >William John Talbot Born Sydney 1872 Died 1908 >Alfred Ernest " " ' 1874 " 1875 >Michael James " 1876 1941 >Albert E " 1877 1920 >Thomas Edward " 1879 >Frederick Charles " 1881 1881 >Joseph Bede " 1882 >Winifred " 1885 >Patrick " 1887 >Bernard V ` 1890 1912 > >On some of the Birth registrations that I have for the above children >William states he is from Dublin, >other times Co. Tipperary. > >His father is said to be Michael Talbot > and mother Margaret Doyle > >Does anyone out there have any connections with these good people or any >suggestions as to how or where I may go for information about my William. > >Thanks so much > >Cheers, >Ellen in Tasmania > >______________________________ >X-Message: #2 >Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:35:46 EST >From: PeteScherm@aol.com >To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <366.7e84a9.31581ce2@aol.com> >Subject: Re: In search of: Maps of Tipperary and Offaly from Ancient times. >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >David at kennedy_mailing_lists@hotmail.com writes: > > > There is a group of researchers in search of maps of the North >Tipperary >and >Offaly region(s) from the different eras of Irish history. < > >David, > >You used the word "ancient" in your subject line. I am unsure what you >would >mean by that, but I'd certainly guess that you mean prior to 1254, which >was >about the date that Limerick and Tipperary were shired from the large shire >of >Munster. Offaly wasn't separated - from Meath - and bounded until 1556. >And >back before then, you're going to get only rough maps of kingdoms, tuatha, >etc. Nothing worth calling a map (much less calling it "Tipperary" or >"Offaly"). By the time of the Down Survey (1654, or so, as I recall) maps >were made of >various baronies in Ireland - which often corresponded to county borders. >These maps are included at the back of the collected Ordnance Survey >letters of >the two counties - Offaly in 1839, Tipperary in 1840. If you look at these >barony maps, you'll see just how "imprecise" they are (I was looking for >just >the right word - but the maps resemble my 8-year old greatgranddaughter's >work ><gr>). I don't have any indications that there were border changes in >either >Tipp or Offaly since the time of the Ordnance Survey in the 1840-ish >period. >But I'd be pleased to be informed of any info to the contrary <gr>. > >Hhere are a few books which might be of some use: > >Tipperary: History and Society, from Geography Publications, William >Nolan, >editor - may be of some use to you. > >An Historical Geography of Ireland, from Academic Press, Graham and >Proudfoot, editors > >Historical Maps of Ireland, from Chartwell Books, by Michael Swift, has a >1759 map of Ireland which might be useful when enlarged enough. > >And, of course, the Down maps in the OS letters for the counties. > >I think that's about all I have. > >.............................................................................. >... >Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? 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