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    1. [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip
    2. Donna and Mike Griffin
    3. I'm so glad to find this list and to have a place to get some help with my questions. I'm planning a trip to Ireland the first week of November and I am trying to plan where to visit to do some research. You can tell I'm from the US since I'm thinking I'll just show up at a courthouse/library/archives and be allowed to have fun searching for my families. I'm starting to realize that records are not available to the public. Here are my Tipperary (or is it Waterford) families... Which is it? That's my first question... Robert Cashin was baptized at St. Mary's Irishtown, Clonmel, Co. Tipperary in 1833. I have this record. Robert (and two brothers that I know of, David and Edmond) are the sons of James Cashin and Johanna Keating. There is a James Cashin on Griffith's in St. Mary's parish, Clonmel but it is in Waterford. Robert Cashin married Ellen Fitzgerald at Ss Peter and Paul's, Clonmel, Tipperary (per their marriage record) in 1856. Ellen is the daughter of Daniel Fitzgerald and Bridget McGrath. Robert, Ellen, David and Edmond all arrived in the US in the late 1850s. I have FINALLY come to believe that while Clonmel is in fact in Co Tipperary, the records are kept in Co. Waterford. Is that right??? I am also starting to realize that every question I ask at the research center is going to cost me about 95 euro. Is that right???? I can't look at records myself, right??? Should I try the churches? Do I need to make an appointment? I'm really trying to do a good job planning this trip and sure could use your help. Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge with me... Donna

    10/03/2006 02:25:23
    1. Re: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip
    2. Jan Fortado
    3. I would like to be in touch with you after you return from Ireland. I have a Michael Cashin, ggggrandfather, but I have hit brick walls with him. Rather than discuss Cashins at this point in time, I think it would be better if you used your energy to focus on your trip to Ireland. :-) :-) I have been to Dublin several times and have learned that to save time I have to be quite organized. I keep one folder for the National LIbrary, one for the National Archives, one for the Valuation Office etc. I keep a running list of what I want and then run it off before I go. That way I don't have to do a lot of thinking in Ireland. I can just move from one item to the next. If you have not done research in Dublin before, you will need time to figure out how to get from your B & B or hotel to the research places you want to visit. This takes time. You need a reader's ticket (no money) at the archives and it takes time to register for this. At the Nat. Library, if you are just going to look at church records, you do not need to pay for a reader's ticket. You can get a card on a chain from the office of volunteers, but..... if they are working with someone before you, you might have quite a long wait. I have gone in, signed their book, taken a card with a chain, put it around my neck and have then signed my name (have to do that at the desk) and gotten the papers you fill out to ask for parish records - three at a time - MUST use pencil only. I have also been told, when I checked my backpack downstairs, that I don't need a card with a chain at all,that I can go right to the desk. The library is open till 8:45 p.m. Mon-Wed. that helps. Here is a web page that seems to list parishes for Cashel and Emly. (No records can be looked at in the library - just plain off limits - we won't get into how STUPID that is). http://www.cashel-emly.ie/main/parishes/ It looks as if you are in luck because I think Clonmel is in the Diocese of Waterford and Lismore and you can search those records at the library. Go to http://www.nli.ie Click Family History Research on the right Click Parish registers in the National Library Click Kilmore-Waterford Waterford is the last diocese. Scroll down until you come to the parish you want. If it is St. mary's, Clonmel, you will see the years that are covered on the film and that the number you want when you request the film (the librarian will help you to fill out the form - different from a book) There are three films available for this parish, depending on the year you are interested in: P. 2460, P. 2461, P.2462. I decided to send this message off the list. I hope it arrives safely. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna and Mike Griffin" <griffin-m-d@webtv.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:25 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip > I'm so glad to find this list and to have a place to get some help with > my questions. > > I'm planning a trip to Ireland the first week of November and I am > trying to plan where to visit to do some research. You can tell I'm > from the US since I'm thinking I'll just show up at a > courthouse/library/archives and be allowed to have fun searching for my > families. > > I'm starting to realize that records are not available to the public. > > Here are my Tipperary (or is it Waterford) families... > > Which is it? That's my first question... > > Robert Cashin was baptized at St. Mary's Irishtown, Clonmel, Co. > Tipperary in 1833. I have this record. > > Robert (and two brothers that I know of, David and Edmond) are the sons > of James Cashin and Johanna Keating. > > There is a James Cashin on Griffith's in St. Mary's parish, Clonmel but > it is in Waterford. > > Robert Cashin married Ellen Fitzgerald at Ss Peter and Paul's, Clonmel, > Tipperary (per their marriage record) in 1856. Ellen is the daughter of > Daniel Fitzgerald and Bridget McGrath. > > Robert, Ellen, David and Edmond all arrived in the US in the late 1850s. > > I have FINALLY come to believe that while Clonmel is in fact in Co > Tipperary, the records are kept in Co. Waterford. Is that right??? > > I am also starting to realize that every question I ask at the research > center is going to cost me about 95 euro. Is that right???? > > I can't look at records myself, right??? > > Should I try the churches? Do I need to make an appointment? > > I'm really trying to do a good job planning this trip and sure could use > your help. > > Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge with me... > > Donna > > >

    10/04/2006 04:18:20