Hi Donna, If I were you then I would go to Dublin and make use of the genealogy advisory service at the National Library (see http://www.nli.ie/new_what_res.htm) and also the one at the National Archives (http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy/service.html). Take along everything that you have and make sure it is clearly laid out so they can give you advice on where you can go next. Your family obviously moved before civil registration began, but there may be brothes and sisters that remained in Ireland that would have died after 1865, so their deaths may have been registered. See http://www.groireland.ie/. With regards to parish records- the National Library has a copy of a microfilm of them, but you will not be allowed access to this. Most other parish records are available there. The originals may be in the custody of the parish priest and the Cashel and Emly website is vague about access to these. I just had a quick look at it and it says that "Not every parish can entertain enquiries about its records and will refer you to TFHR, where the records of all parishes of Cashel and Emly are indexed and available. Should the parish admit enquiry, ensure that you have all relevant details and existing variations of spellings." So maybe you will be lucky- perhaps someone who has tried this can confirm. I would certainly ask first, there's no harm in it. The Tipperary Family Research Centre is the place where they will do look ups for you. Personally I would go for single record searches there. For example the next thing you will want will be the marriage of James Cashin and Johanna Keating. So ask them to do a single record search for this first. Then you have only paid a small amount out and can decide where to go next yourself. Check how far back the registers go. There is no point in paying for a search if the parish registers for the parish you want don't survive early enough. So most of the resources will be in Dublin. There is also the Registry of Deeds, wills at the National Archives and family and estate collections at the National Library, among others. When I go to Ireland (I'm going on Tuesday), I tend to have a few days in Dublin doing research and then have a few more days in the place where my ancestors came from. You probably won't find much here but you can get photographs and a real feel for the place where they came from, which is as important as finding the records I think anyway, which often don't survive in Ireland. Vicki >From: griffin-m-d@webtv.net (Donna and Mike Griffin) >Reply-To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-TIPPERARY@rootsweb.com >Subject: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 08:25:23 -0500 > >I'm so glad to find this list and to have a place to get some help with >my questions. > >I'm planning a trip to Ireland the first week of November and I am >trying to plan where to visit to do some research. You can tell I'm >from the US since I'm thinking I'll just show up at a >courthouse/library/archives and be allowed to have fun searching for my >families. > >I'm starting to realize that records are not available to the public. > >Here are my Tipperary (or is it Waterford) families... > >Which is it? That's my first question... > >Robert Cashin was baptized at St. Mary's Irishtown, Clonmel, Co. >Tipperary in 1833. I have this record. > >Robert (and two brothers that I know of, David and Edmond) are the sons >of James Cashin and Johanna Keating. > >There is a James Cashin on Griffith's in St. Mary's parish, Clonmel but >it is in Waterford. > >Robert Cashin married Ellen Fitzgerald at Ss Peter and Paul's, Clonmel, >Tipperary (per their marriage record) in 1856. Ellen is the daughter of >Daniel Fitzgerald and Bridget McGrath. > >Robert, Ellen, David and Edmond all arrived in the US in the late 1850s. > >I have FINALLY come to believe that while Clonmel is in fact in Co >Tipperary, the records are kept in Co. Waterford. Is that right??? > >I am also starting to realize that every question I ask at the research >center is going to cost me about 95 euro. Is that right???? > >I can't look at records myself, right??? > >Should I try the churches? Do I need to make an appointment? > >I'm really trying to do a good job planning this trip and sure could use >your help. > >Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge with me... > >Donna > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message