-------------- Original message -------------- Hi Donna or any skp I've been reading messages on the digest. I'm a Griffin whose great great grandfather was John Griffin He was born in Tipperary Town, Co. Tipperary c 1822. His father was Michael. His mother may have been a Helen or Catherine. Since I have quite a bit of specific information, what is the best way to try and find his birth, parents and siblings? I really would appreciate any help that anybody can give me. Thank you, Lynn Griffin > > HI, Donna! > > Sorry I can't help you with your Ireland questions. I see by your email > address that you probably have Griffin in your ancestry. I know that is a very > common name in Ireland, but I have to grasp at any straw that comes along. > > Do you have any Gradys in your Griffin line?I have very little information to > go on. I dont' even know if they came from Co. Tipperary. > > Thanks for any info. > > Mary > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:15:56 +0000 > From: "Vicki Perry" > Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip > To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Hi Donna, > > If I were you then I would go to Dublin and make use of the genealogy > advisory service at the National Library (see > http://www.nli.ie/new_what_res.htm) and also the one at the National > Archives (http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy/service.html). Take along > everything that you have and make sure it is clearly laid out so they can > give you advice on where you can go next. > > Your family obviously moved before civil registration began, but there may > be brothes and sisters that remained in Ireland that would have died after > 1865, so their deaths may have been registered. See > http://www.groireland.ie/. > > With regards to parish records- the National Library has a copy of a > microfilm of them, but you will not be allowed access to this. Most other > parish records are available there. The originals may be in the custody of > the parish priest and the Cashel and Emly website is vague about access to > these. I just had a quick look at it and it says that "Not every parish can > entertain enquiries about its records and will refer you to TFHR, where the > records of all parishes of Cashel and Emly are indexed and available. Should > the parish admit enquiry, ensure that you have all relevant details and > existing variations of spellings." So maybe you will be lucky- perhaps > someone who has tried this can confirm. I would certainly ask first, there's > no harm in it. > > The Tipperary Family Research Centre is the place where they will do look > ups for you. Personally I would go for single record searches there. For > example the next thing you will want will be the marriage of James Cashin > and Johanna Keating. So ask them to do a single record search for this > first. Then you have only paid a small amount out and can decide where to go > next yourself. Check how far back the registers go. There is no point in > paying for a search if the parish registers for the parish you want don't > survive early enough. > > So most of the resources will be in Dublin. There is also the Registry of > Deeds, wills at the National Archives and family and estate collections at > the National Library, among others. When I go to Ireland (I'm going on > Tuesday), I tend to have a few days in Dublin doing research and then have a > few more days in the place where my ancestors came from. You probably won't > find much here but you can get photographs and a real feel for the place > where they came from, which is as important as finding the records I think > anyway, which often don't survive in Ireland. > > Vicki > > > >From: griffin-m-d@webtv.net (Donna and Mike Griffin) > >Reply-To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com > >To: IRL-TIPPERARY@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip > >Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 08:25:23 -0500 > > > >I'm so glad to find this list and to have a place to get some help with > >my questions. > > > >I'm planning a trip to Ireland the first week of November and I am > >trying to plan where to visit to do some research. You can tell I'm > >from the US since I'm thinking I'll just show up at a > >courthouse/library/archives and be allowed to have fun searching for my > >families. > > > >I'm starting to realize that records are not available to the public. > > > >Here are my Tipperary (or is it Waterford) families... > > > >Which is it? That's my first question... > > > >Robert Cashin was baptized at St. Mary's Irishtown, Clonmel, Co. > >Tipperary in 1833. I have this record. > > > >Robert (and two brothers that I know of, David and Edmond) are the sons > >of James Cashin and Johanna Keating. > > > >There is a James Cashin on Griffith's in St. Mary's parish, Clonmel but > >it is in Waterford. > > > >Robert Cashin married Ellen Fitzgerald at Ss Peter and Paul's, Clonmel, > >Tipperary (per their marriage record) in 1856. Ellen is the daughter of > >Daniel Fitzgerald and Bridget McGrath. > > > >Robert, Ellen, David and Edmond all arrived in the US in the late 1850s. > > > >I have FINALLY come to believe that while Clonmel is in fact in Co > >Tipperary, the records are kept in Co. Waterford. Is that right??? > > > >I am also starting to realize that every question I ask at the research > >center is going to cost me about 95 euro. Is that right???? > > > >I can't look at records myself, right??? > > > >Should I try the churches? Do I need to make an appointment? > > > >I'm really trying to do a good job planning this trip and sure could use > >your help. > > > >Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge with me... > > > >Donna > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 14:36:58 EDT > From: KaySlainte@aol.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip > To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <389.c4b617f.325407ca@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi Donna, > > You might try www.waterfordcountylibrary.ie . This site has Griffith's > Valuation/death register/directories etc. You may or may not find members of > your > family. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 19:51:48 -0400 > From: "bob ryan" > Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip > To: > Message-ID: <032401c6e746$e4602130$d6a80144@ibmlhjigdzm4db> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi, you might want to check the Hospital in Clonmel for death records. How > expensive it is I don't remember. I got a some info there a few years ago. > > Bob Ryan > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna and Mike Griffin" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 9:25 AM > Subject: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary families and trip > > > > I'm so glad to find this list and to have a place to get some help with > > my questions. > > > > I'm planning a trip to Ireland the first week of November and I am > > trying to plan where to visit to do some research. You can tell I'm > > from the US since I'm thinking I'll just show up at a > > courthouse/library/archives and be allowed to have fun searching for my > > families. > > > > I'm starting to realize that records are not available to the public. > > > > Here are my Tipperary (or is it Waterford) families... > > > > Which is it? That's my first question... > > > > Robert Cashin was baptized at St. Mary's Irishtown, Clonmel, Co. > > Tipperary in 1833. I have this record. > > > > Robert (and two brothers that I know of, David and Edmond) are the sons > > of James Cashin and Johanna Keating. > > > > There is a James Cashin on Griffith's in St. Mary's parish, Clonmel but > > it is in Waterford. > > > > Robert Cashin married Ellen Fitzgerald at Ss Peter and Paul's, Clonmel, > > Tipperary (per their marriage record) in 1856. Ellen is the daughter of > > Daniel Fitzgerald and Bridget McGrath. > > > > Robert, Ellen, David and Edmond all arrived in the US in the late 1850s. > > > > I have FINALLY come to believe that while Clonmel is in fact in Co > > Tipperary, the records are kept in Co. Waterford. Is that right??? > > > > I am also starting to realize that every question I ask at the research > > center is going to cost me about 95 euro. Is that right???? > > > > I can't look at records myself, right??? > > > > Should I try the churches? Do I need to make an appointment? > > > > I'm really trying to do a good job planning this trip and sure could use > > your help. > > > > Thank you for sharing your experiences and knowledge with me... > > > > Donna > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:59:47 -0400 > From: Mary Hoar > Subject: [IRL-TIP] Clonmel hospital? > To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <90488031-420E-42DF-82FE-0A6D206C1381@optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed > > Do you have an address for the Clonmel hospital? > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 03 Oct 2006 20:04:47 -0400 > From: Mary Hoar > Subject: [IRL-TIP] Clonmel > To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <32FDD733-00A4-480C-9DC2-80D087D94575@optonline.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > The (RC) Diocese of Waterford & Lismore includes the town of > Clonmel. These records are held at the Waterford Heritage Center. > The website is http://www.iol.ie/~mnoc/ > > I have not used their services since the Euro became the currency of > the land, so I do not know the cost for record searches. > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 20:29:55 -0400 > From: "bob ryan" > Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Clonmel hospital? > To: > Message-ID: <03ab01c6e74c$37411260$d6a80144@ibmlhjigdzm4db> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Sorry to say I don't have it. I've been to Clonmel a few times and just > asked someone where it was and went there. You might be able to Goggle it. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Hoar" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2006 7:59 PM > Subject: [IRL-TIP] Clonmel hospital? > > > > Do you have an address for the Clonmel hospital? > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-TIPPERARY list administrator, send an email to > IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-TIPPERARY mailing list, send an email to > IRL-TIPPERARY@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-TIPPERARY Digest, Vol 1, Issue 22 > ********************************************