Andrew, you mentioned that the Carden brothers' mother was Ann Fogarty of Oldtown, Templemore, whose parents were John Fogarty and Mary Morrissey. Oldtown is west of the town of Templemore. Perhaps the names Fogarty and Morrissey are too common in the area for there to be a connection, but I have come across some people with those names in my research of Keyes families who lived to the east of Templemore, in the vicinity of Clonmore and Dromard. There was a large cluster of Keyes families living east of Templemore on either side of the Tipperary-Laois border, many of whom emigrated to the the US and settled in Paterson, New Jersey, about 13 miles west of New York City. They all seem to have been related to one another in some way and were probably related to my ggg-gmother Ellen Keyes (b. abt 1800), who also came from that area. I have been tracing all the Keyes along the Tipperary-Laois border, trying to figure out connections between them. As part of that process, I have collected some records that mention the names Morrissey and Fogarty. My ancestor Ellen nee Keyes resided at Clonbuogh (south of Clonmore) with her husband Daniel Kavanagh in the 1820s-1840s before emigrating to Paterson, New Jersey also. Griffith's Valuation shows a John Butler leasing land (lot 7, Clonbuogh, civil parish Killavinoge, Co. Tipperary) from the Earl of Carrick and renting houses on it to Patrick Fogarty, Daniel Kavanagh, Mary Doolan, Catherine Dwyer and John Maher. There are 9 additional listings in Griffith's for Fogartys in Killavinogue civil parish, including Catherine (Ballysorrell Big), Michael (Clonmore), James and William (Dromardbeg), Patrick and William (Glebe), Anne (Gortnagowna) and Denis (Shanakill). Andrew, are you familiar with Fogartys in this area, or is this too far east for you? The name William Fogarty also appears in the 1824 Tithe Applotments for Killavinogue in Clonmore and also in (Killavinogue) Glebe. There was a Keyes-Morrissey marriage in the Catholic parish of Templemore-Clonmore, and several Morrisseys served as baptismal sponsors in the same parish for their family and for the children of Martin Keyes and Fanny Reddin, who emigrated to Paterson, New Jersey before 1850. I posted those records to the list in 2006 - that post appears here in the archives: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/IRL-TIPPERARY/2006-08/1155485346 in case anyone on the list is interested in Morriseys living around Templemore. Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon, USA Andrew Fogarty wrote: > James Coman`s wife Margaret Fogarty had two brothers at Moruya. The parents are identified as Michael Fogarty and Jane Murphy. The Moruya Fogartys were from Lloydsborough near Templemore. The men -- Martin and Michael -- came to Sydney from Ireland on the ship "Empire" in 1853, naming Margaret as a relative residing at The Rocks in Sydney. It seems that Margaret paid 12 pounds under the remittance regulations. I do not claim those people as mine but a link seems likely. ! Some brothers named Carden came to Moruya after landing from the ship "Eliza" in Sydney as immigrants from Ireland in 1855. Their mother was an Ann Fogarty of Oldtown, Templemore who seems very likely to have been a sister of my great-great-grandfather. The Moruya Carden brothers` maternal grandparents were John Fogarty and Mary Morrissey. Their mother seems to have been born in about 1797. It seems she emigrated in about 1857 or 1858. She went to Victoria.

Hi Geralyn I am researching Keyes in County Limerick bordering on County Tipperary. My keyes family were in Castleconnell County Limerick and Birdhill County Tipperary and later in Limerick City. Do you think there might be a link to your family of Keyes? Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Geralyn Barry" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2009 5:52 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] near Templemore - Fogarty, Morrissey, Keyes, Kavanagh,Reddin, etc. > Andrew, you mentioned that the Carden brothers' mother was Ann Fogarty > of Oldtown, Templemore, whose parents were John Fogarty and Mary > Morrissey. Oldtown is west of the town of Templemore. Perhaps the names > Fogarty and Morrissey are too common in the area for there to be a > connection, but I have come across some people with those names in my > research of Keyes families who lived to the east of Templemore, in the > vicinity of Clonmore and Dromard. > > There was a large cluster of Keyes families living east of Templemore on > either side of the Tipperary-Laois border, many of whom emigrated to the > the US and settled in Paterson, New Jersey, about 13 miles west of New > York City. They all seem to have been related to one another in some way > and were probably related to my ggg-gmother Ellen Keyes (b. abt 1800), > who also came from that area. I have been tracing all the Keyes along > the Tipperary-Laois border, trying to figure out connections between > them. As part of that process, I have collected some records that > mention the names Morrissey and Fogarty. > > My ancestor Ellen nee Keyes resided at Clonbuogh (south of Clonmore) > with her husband Daniel Kavanagh in the 1820s-1840s before emigrating to > Paterson, New Jersey also. Griffith's Valuation shows a John Butler > leasing land (lot 7, Clonbuogh, civil parish Killavinoge, Co. Tipperary) > from the Earl of Carrick and renting houses on it to Patrick Fogarty, > Daniel Kavanagh, Mary Doolan, Catherine Dwyer and John Maher. There are > 9 additional listings in Griffith's for Fogartys in Killavinogue civil > parish, including Catherine (Ballysorrell Big), Michael (Clonmore), > James and William (Dromardbeg), Patrick and William (Glebe), Anne > (Gortnagowna) and Denis (Shanakill). Andrew, are you familiar with > Fogartys in this area, or is this too far east for you? The name William > Fogarty also appears in the 1824 Tithe Applotments for Killavinogue in > Clonmore and also in (Killavinogue) Glebe. > > There was a Keyes-Morrissey marriage in the Catholic parish of > Templemore-Clonmore, and several Morrisseys served as baptismal sponsors > in the same parish for their family and for the children of Martin Keyes > and Fanny Reddin, who emigrated to Paterson, New Jersey before 1850. I > posted those records to the list in 2006 - that post appears here in the > archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/IRL-TIPPERARY/2006-08/1155485346 > in case anyone on the list is interested in Morriseys living around > Templemore. > > > Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon, USA > > > Andrew Fogarty wrote: >> >> James Coman`s wife Margaret Fogarty had two brothers at Moruya. The >> parents are identified as Michael Fogarty and Jane Murphy. The Moruya >> Fogartys were from Lloydsborough near Templemore. The men -- Martin and >> Michael -- came to Sydney from Ireland on the ship "Empire" in 1853, >> naming Margaret as a relative residing at The Rocks in Sydney. It seems >> that Margaret paid 12 pounds under the remittance regulations. I do not >> claim those people as mine but a link seems likely. >> ! > Some brothers named Carden came to Moruya after landing > from the ship "Eliza" in Sydney as immigrants from Ireland in 1855. Their > mother was an Ann Fogarty of Oldtown, Templemore who seems very likely to > have been a sister of my great-great-grandfather. The Moruya Carden > brothers` maternal grandparents were John Fogarty and Mary Morrissey. > Their mother seems to have been born in about 1797. It seems she > emigrated in about 1857 or 1858. She went to Victoria. > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

New to this list, but researching for a while, my group settled in New Haven County, Connecticut (where Rev. Bernard O'Cavanaugh was the first resident priest in the state). Geralyn, your reference to the Clonbuogh group interests me, particularly re John Maher (speaking of too-common names...). Although I have not come across the surnames Fogarty, Keyes, nor Reddin among my cluster in CT, there are other clusters that parallel the areas around Tipperary/Kilkenny/Laois and ending up together in the towns I am studying. Templemore was one of the "Maher towns" and one of the graves in my study references that place. Re Morrissey, I found this while reading recently, that in the development of the first Catholic school in New Haven, originating in the early 1800s, the longstanding teacher of the girls, until her replacement by nuns, was Miss Eliza Meagher. Her future husband, Patrick Morrissey, began teaching (the boys) about ten years after she began there, and he had a fairly long career as a teacher in New Haven. He was from Tipperary. There is, also, at least one Morrissey grave in my relative's small cemetery where many of the early immigrants are buried together. -Janet Maher (My earliest known ancestors were Patrick Maher and Anne Butler Maher.) On 5/24/09 12:52 PM, "Geralyn Barry" <[email protected]> wrote: > Andrew, you mentioned that the Carden brothers' mother was Ann Fogarty > of Oldtown, Templemore, whose parents were John Fogarty and Mary > Morrissey. Oldtown is west of the town of Templemore. Perhaps the names > Fogarty and Morrissey are too common in the area for there to be a > connection, but I have come across some people with those names in my > research of Keyes families who lived to the east of Templemore, in the > vicinity of Clonmore and Dromard. > > There was a large cluster of Keyes families living east of Templemore on > either side of the Tipperary-Laois border, many of whom emigrated to the > the US and settled in Paterson, New Jersey, about 13 miles west of New > York City. They all seem to have been related to one another in some way > and were probably related to my ggg-gmother Ellen Keyes (b. abt 1800), > who also came from that area. I have been tracing all the Keyes along > the Tipperary-Laois border, trying to figure out connections between > them. As part of that process, I have collected some records that > mention the names Morrissey and Fogarty. > > My ancestor Ellen nee Keyes resided at Clonbuogh (south of Clonmore) > with her husband Daniel Kavanagh in the 1820s-1840s before emigrating to > Paterson, New Jersey also. Griffith's Valuation shows a John Butler > leasing land (lot 7, Clonbuogh, civil parish Killavinoge, Co. Tipperary) > from the Earl of Carrick and renting houses on it to Patrick Fogarty, > Daniel Kavanagh, Mary Doolan, Catherine Dwyer and John Maher. There are > 9 additional listings in Griffith's for Fogartys in Killavinogue civil > parish, including Catherine (Ballysorrell Big), Michael (Clonmore), > James and William (Dromardbeg), Patrick and William (Glebe), Anne > (Gortnagowna) and Denis (Shanakill). Andrew, are you familiar with > Fogartys in this area, or is this too far east for you? The name William > Fogarty also appears in the 1824 Tithe Applotments for Killavinogue in > Clonmore and also in (Killavinogue) Glebe. > > There was a Keyes-Morrissey marriage in the Catholic parish of > Templemore-Clonmore, and several Morrisseys served as baptismal sponsors > in the same parish for their family and for the children of Martin Keyes > and Fanny Reddin, who emigrated to Paterson, New Jersey before 1850. I > posted those records to the list in 2006 - that post appears here in the > archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/IRL-TIPPERARY/2006-08/1155485346 > in case anyone on the list is interested in Morriseys living around > Templemore. > > > Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon, USA > > > Andrew Fogarty wrote: >> >> James Coman`s wife Margaret Fogarty had two brothers at Moruya. The parents >> are identified as Michael Fogarty and Jane Murphy. The Moruya Fogartys were >> from Lloydsborough near Templemore. The men -- Martin and Michael -- came to >> Sydney from Ireland on the ship "Empire" in 1853, naming Margaret as a >> relative residing at The Rocks in Sydney. It seems that Margaret paid 12 >> pounds under the remittance regulations. I do not claim those people as mine >> but a link seems likely. >> ! > Some brothers named Carden came to Moruya after landing from > the ship "Eliza" in Sydney as immigrants from Ireland in 1855. Their mother > was an Ann Fogarty of Oldtown, Templemore who seems very likely to have been a > sister of my great-great-grandfather. The Moruya Carden brothers` maternal > grandparents were John Fogarty and Mary Morrissey. Their mother seems to have > been born in about 1797. It seems she emigrated in about 1857 or 1858. She > went to Victoria. > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message