Thank you again for these snippets of events in Tipperary in the 1880's. I always scan them in the hope also of seeing a family name mentioned ;-). And the words/phrases used then like "dilapidated character" often give me a chuckle then some other item like the 12 year old boy who died from whiskey poisoning jolt me in the other direction and so it goes on. Does the Nenagh Guardian also cover events in the Ballingarry area and are the births and deaths mentioned taken from all levels of society or more from the land owners, merchants and the like? Chris in NZ Families: Kelly and Corcoran in the Ballingarry area of Co. Tipperary. Nolan and Walsh Listowel,Co Kerry, Ireland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Heaphy" <[email protected]> To: "Tipperary IRL" <[email protected]>; "Tipperary" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Nenagh Guardian. Nenagh Guardian. 8th June 1874. Died on the 6th June, at the Silvermines, Nenagh in the 22nd year of her age, Margaret, second daughter of Mr. Joseph Ryan. Died at Killaloe, Elizabeth, second beloved daughter of William and Elizabeth Hill, aged 19 years. 8th June 1885. James Parsons, a dilapidated character from Roscrea, was at Nenagh Quarter Sessions sentenced to four month's imprisonment with hard labour, for striving on the 9th April to pass off a counterfeit coin, representing a shilling, on Mr. John Gilmartin, Roscrea. This was the second attempt of this kind by the prisoner. The Lord Lieutenant notifies in the Dublin Gazette his intention to appoint a qualified person to investigate the claims of James McDonnell, of Dunkerrin, for compensation under the Crimes Act, for personal injuries sustained by him on the night of March 29th last. Johanna Toohy, one of the tinker tribe was arrested on Saturday night by Constable Murray, Toomevara, for stealing a purse containing a half sovereign and some silver from Miss Kennedy, Bunacum. Died on the 30th May, at Temple Park, Cloughjordan, Mary, relic of the late Francis Kent, Esq., at the patriarchal age of 92 years. Her faculties were unimpaired to the last. Died June 3rd, at Kilcreanon, Roscrea, Alice, wife of John Roe, and daughter of the late John Shortt, of Pallas, Tipperary. 9th June 1873. Deaths. At Behamore, Cloughjordan, in the 20th year of his age, Mr. Patrick Quinlisk. At Shinrone, at an advanced age, the widow of Sub. Inspector Butler. At Ballyhane, Templederry, Mr. Patrick Coughlan. At the residence of his brother at Castle Street, Nenagh, Mr. Daniel Guilfoyle, late of Roscrea. The "Grass of a Goose" is not an unfrequent demise in Kerry. The Chairman of the Tralee Sessions on Wednesday, gave a decree for 30/., against a farmer landlord to his tenant, for breach of contract on a demise of a house, garden and grass of a goose. On Thursday evening, about 5 o'clock p.m. Thomas Hogan, servant to a Mr. Francis Guinan, farmer, Redwood, in the Parish of Lorrha, died very suddenly, while engaged cleaning a turf bank. The deceased who was a strong healthy man, was 35 years of age, and was never known to be sick in his life. On the afternoon of Thursday the bodies of Patrick Quinn and Patrick Ryan, who were drowned in Lough Derg on Sunday, were found at the Connacht side of the lake, between White-Gate and Mount Shannon, about a mile and a half from where their boat capsized. An inquest was held today before Mr. Meagher, Coroner, when a verdict of accidental drowning was returned. On the afternoon of Wednesday, Michael Meagher, esq., coroner, held an inquest at Annagh about 8 miles from Nenagh, on view of the body of a boy named Michl. Starr, about 12 years of age, who came to his death in consequence of drinking an excess of whiskey. A funeral happened to be in the neighbourhood at which the barbarous hospitality of handing around whiskey was the order of the day. The deceased was the son of a poor widow who lived in the neighbourhood. At Borrisoleigh Petty Sessions, in the case of John Cormack, against the Widow Kennedy for trespass of geese and goslings on the lands of Graneira, there was a fine of 6d and costs, by two of the magistrates on the bench. 10th June 1872. One of the cases heard today at Nenagh Quarter Sessions was a process to recover compensation for the keep of an ass. The defendant, John Quin, lent the ass to the plaintiff, Daniel Dunn, and took no further trouble, leaving the donkey there a length of time. It was for this maintenance that the case was instituted. His Worship, dismissing the case said that he was at a loss to know why the plaintiff, after borrowing the donkey, didn't send it back after borrowing it. Births. To the wife of Mr. Francis J. Byron, Gaswork's Manager, Nenagh, a son. At Crossogue, Thurles, to the wife of Charles B. Prior, Esq. J.P. a son. The Nenagh Board of Guardians have allowed £8.10.0., to provide clothes and pay expenses to Queenstown to a woman named Armstrong and her four children, chargeable to the Nenagh Division, her husband having paid their passage to New York. 10th June 1878. The Commandant of Depot, Phoenix Park, Dublin, has called on W.T.Gunn, Esq., County Inspector, Tipperary (NR) to supply to the Reserve Force, six well developed policemen of experience and none of them to be under 6 feet. These men were ordered to proceed to Dunmore forthwith. Certainly notable specimens of Irishmen they were, as all the NR policemen are. Their names are as follows--- Thomas Christopher, Portland. John Foster, Gooldings Cross, Templemore. George Franklin, Pike. John Henry, Roscrea. Michael McKiernan, Templederry. Michael Egan, Ballymackey. Died at the residence of his brother-in-law, Daisy Hill, Banbridge, James Kingsley, Esq., Knigh Cottage, Nenagh. He was deservedly loved and respected by rich and poor. The remains will arrive from Banbridge at Nenagh by the 5'30 train, when they will be removed to the family burial place at Knigh. Marriage. At Kilbarron Chapel, by the Rev. G. Corbett, P.P., assisted by the Rev. P. Bray. P.P. Arles, and Rev. John Howard, C.C., Thomas, son of Peter McLoughlin, Queen's County, to Marianne, youngest daughter of the late Martin O'Brien, Esq., Roscrea. _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: 05/21/09 06:22:00

I too scan these items of Murder --Robbery and babies being born and I think to myself , I now know why people left Ireland and came to Australia and the USA , but I stop and think Australian papers today only print the same items and TV do the same , so journalists and papers have not changed . They tried to run a good news TV program but failed because no one watched it . The top 20 TV programs here are Murder--Drugs -- Crime and Football . Laurie ----- Original Message ----- From: fabiochris To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Nenagh Guardian. Thank you again for these snippets of events in Tipperary in the 1880's. I always scan them in the hope also of seeing a family name mentioned ;-). And the words/phrases used then like "dilapidated character" often give me a chuckle then some other item like the 12 year old boy who died from whiskey poisoning jolt me in the other direction and so it goes on. Does the Nenagh Guardian also cover events in the Ballingarry area and are the births and deaths mentioned taken from all levels of society or more from the land owners, merchants and the like?

Chris, The Nenagh Guardian covers North Tipperary mostly, an odd time there would be something from down South. Deaths, births and marriages mostly from Land Owners, Merchants, etc. Still have load of them to post when I get time. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "fabiochris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 11:47 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Nenagh Guardian. Thank you again for these snippets of events in Tipperary in the 1880's. I always scan them in the hope also of seeing a family name mentioned ;-). And the words/phrases used then like "dilapidated character" often give me a chuckle then some other item like the 12 year old boy who died from whiskey poisoning jolt me in the other direction and so it goes on. Does the Nenagh Guardian also cover events in the Ballingarry area and are the births and deaths mentioned taken from all levels of society or more from the land owners, merchants and the like? Chris in NZ Families: Kelly and Corcoran in the Ballingarry area of Co. Tipperary. Nolan and Walsh Listowel,Co Kerry, Ireland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Heaphy" <[email protected]> To: "Tipperary IRL" <[email protected]>; "Tipperary" <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 29, 2009 5:57 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Nenagh Guardian. Nenagh Guardian. 8th June 1874. Died on the 6th June, at the Silvermines, Nenagh in the 22nd year of her age, Margaret, second daughter of Mr. Joseph Ryan. Died at Killaloe, Elizabeth, second beloved daughter of William and Elizabeth Hill, aged 19 years. 8th June 1885. James Parsons, a dilapidated character from Roscrea, was at Nenagh Quarter Sessions sentenced to four month's imprisonment with hard labour, for striving on the 9th April to pass off a counterfeit coin, representing a shilling, on Mr. John Gilmartin, Roscrea. This was the second attempt of this kind by the prisoner. The Lord Lieutenant notifies in the Dublin Gazette his intention to appoint a qualified person to investigate the claims of James McDonnell, of Dunkerrin, for compensation under the Crimes Act, for personal injuries sustained by him on the night of March 29th last. Johanna Toohy, one of the tinker tribe was arrested on Saturday night by Constable Murray, Toomevara, for stealing a purse containing a half sovereign and some silver from Miss Kennedy, Bunacum. Died on the 30th May, at Temple Park, Cloughjordan, Mary, relic of the late Francis Kent, Esq., at the patriarchal age of 92 years. Her faculties were unimpaired to the last. Died June 3rd, at Kilcreanon, Roscrea, Alice, wife of John Roe, and daughter of the late John Shortt, of Pallas, Tipperary. 9th June 1873. Deaths. At Behamore, Cloughjordan, in the 20th year of his age, Mr. Patrick Quinlisk. At Shinrone, at an advanced age, the widow of Sub. Inspector Butler. At Ballyhane, Templederry, Mr. Patrick Coughlan. At the residence of his brother at Castle Street, Nenagh, Mr. Daniel Guilfoyle, late of Roscrea. The "Grass of a Goose" is not an unfrequent demise in Kerry. The Chairman of the Tralee Sessions on Wednesday, gave a decree for 30/., against a farmer landlord to his tenant, for breach of contract on a demise of a house, garden and grass of a goose. On Thursday evening, about 5 o'clock p.m. Thomas Hogan, servant to a Mr. Francis Guinan, farmer, Redwood, in the Parish of Lorrha, died very suddenly, while engaged cleaning a turf bank. The deceased who was a strong healthy man, was 35 years of age, and was never known to be sick in his life. On the afternoon of Thursday the bodies of Patrick Quinn and Patrick Ryan, who were drowned in Lough Derg on Sunday, were found at the Connacht side of the lake, between White-Gate and Mount Shannon, about a mile and a half from where their boat capsized. An inquest was held today before Mr. Meagher, Coroner, when a verdict of accidental drowning was returned. On the afternoon of Wednesday, Michael Meagher, esq., coroner, held an inquest at Annagh about 8 miles from Nenagh, on view of the body of a boy named Michl. Starr, about 12 years of age, who came to his death in consequence of drinking an excess of whiskey. A funeral happened to be in the neighbourhood at which the barbarous hospitality of handing around whiskey was the order of the day. The deceased was the son of a poor widow who lived in the neighbourhood. At Borrisoleigh Petty Sessions, in the case of John Cormack, against the Widow Kennedy for trespass of geese and goslings on the lands of Graneira, there was a fine of 6d and costs, by two of the magistrates on the bench. 10th June 1872. One of the cases heard today at Nenagh Quarter Sessions was a process to recover compensation for the keep of an ass. The defendant, John Quin, lent the ass to the plaintiff, Daniel Dunn, and took no further trouble, leaving the donkey there a length of time. It was for this maintenance that the case was instituted. His Worship, dismissing the case said that he was at a loss to know why the plaintiff, after borrowing the donkey, didn't send it back after borrowing it. Births. To the wife of Mr. Francis J. Byron, Gaswork's Manager, Nenagh, a son. At Crossogue, Thurles, to the wife of Charles B. Prior, Esq. J.P. a son. The Nenagh Board of Guardians have allowed £8.10.0., to provide clothes and pay expenses to Queenstown to a woman named Armstrong and her four children, chargeable to the Nenagh Division, her husband having paid their passage to New York. 10th June 1878. The Commandant of Depot, Phoenix Park, Dublin, has called on W.T.Gunn, Esq., County Inspector, Tipperary (NR) to supply to the Reserve Force, six well developed policemen of experience and none of them to be under 6 feet. These men were ordered to proceed to Dunmore forthwith. Certainly notable specimens of Irishmen they were, as all the NR policemen are. Their names are as follows--- Thomas Christopher, Portland. John Foster, Gooldings Cross, Templemore. George Franklin, Pike. John Henry, Roscrea. Michael McKiernan, Templederry. Michael Egan, Ballymackey. Died at the residence of his brother-in-law, Daisy Hill, Banbridge, James Kingsley, Esq., Knigh Cottage, Nenagh. He was deservedly loved and respected by rich and poor. The remains will arrive from Banbridge at Nenagh by the 5'30 train, when they will be removed to the family burial place at Knigh. Marriage. At Kilbarron Chapel, by the Rev. G. Corbett, P.P., assisted by the Rev. P. Bray. P.P. Arles, and Rev. John Howard, C.C., Thomas, son of Peter McLoughlin, Queen's County, to Marianne, youngest daughter of the late Martin O'Brien, Esq., Roscrea. _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.36/2126 - Release Date: 05/21/09 06:22:00 _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message