HI, Sorry to interrupt your email- There was at one time, if I am right a RC church outside of Cloughjordan named Grawn. Try and contact Fr. Tom A Hannon tomahannon@gmail.com in Cloughjordan and see if he has the records. He found a record for the marriage for my great aunt that took place in 1840. I see that he may be in England and hope he will be home when you contact him. Tell him that you got his email address from the fellow that sent him the "COUNTY OFFALY" Irish hat. JERRY TIERNEY CHASSELL MICHIGAN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Little.House.Antiques" <little.house.antiques@comcast.net> To: "IRL-Tipperary" <IRL-TIPPERARY@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:10 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Question re RC Parish Records for RC parish ofCLOUGHJORDAN > Help, I am SO confused! > > Found a marriage record for above couple from > FamilySearch.org at > https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.2/9SLH-XGX/p2 > This record was free and although not the original > at least gave the parents names of both parties: > > groom's name: John Shanahan > bride's name: Abbey Stoney > marriage date: 19 Oct 1858 > marriage place: Nenagh, Tipp, Ireland > groom's father's name: Mathew Shanahan > bride's father's name: Ralph Stoney > groom's marital status: Single > bride's marital status: Single > indexing project (batch) number: M70218-8 > system origin: Ireland-EASy > source film number: 101399 > reference number: 416 > > Noting that the place given was Nenagh and date > was prior to Civil Registration (therefore must be > a church marriage) then went to cross check it at > IFHF www.rootsireland.ie (not a FREE site! and > found the following: > > Church Marriage Record > Date of Marriage: 19-Oct-1858 > Parish / District: CLOUGHJORDAN > County: Co. Tipperary > HUSBAND > Name: John Shannahan > Address: Not Recorded > Denomination: Roman Catholic > WIFE > Name: Abby Stoney > Address: Not Recorded > Denomination: Roman Catholic > Witness 1: Michael Meara > Witness 2: Anne Ryan > Notes: Denis Cleary [Priest] > > To all appearances this is the SAME record > except that the place is given as the RC > Parish of Cloughjordan. Or is it? > > Now to my question: The town of Cloughjordan has 3 > churches, 1 methodist, 1 COI and 1 RC. However, > the RC church (Saints Micheal and John) wasn't built > until 1898 - so just where was this couple married? > > The COI church (St. Kierans) was built 1828-30 so early > enough for the couple to have wed there - but is possible > that these records are that screwed up? Could a RC > marriage take place in a COI church? Abigail "Abby" > Stoney was the daughter of Rev. Ralph Stoney a COI > curate or dean of Terryglass so I know she wasn't RC - > but her hubby John Shanahan very well might have been? > > Thanks for any help! > Kathy Rhodes > > > IGP County Tipperary website: > http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message