Hi Laurie, This is a non-specific answer to your query. We have on our website a list of diseases provided by Jeanagh Punter. At the time you mentioned for Ireland, there is nothing specific, but the UK was having a bad time. http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7:diseases-through-history&catid=19:bromsgrove-resources&Itemid=34 Whether the definition of UK included Ireland for these reports I don't know. You don't need rampant national disease to suffer from it locally. Merely living a few hundred yards downstream of the village toilet system (aka untreated sewage) often lead to a higher death rate at that end. Also tuberculosis was everywhere, especially in cold damp housing. Alternatively, he could have just fallen out of a tree playing. Or choked on his dinner. I think you should look again at where Matthew et al were living in London. Was it up market or down? And what was his occupation? This might give a backwards clue as to the living conditions in Tipp. I know RYAN is Irish, but could Matthew have been moved by service in the army? These may all be red herrings but you should still think about them being possibilities. Cheers Mike Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH The Family History Site for Worcestershire, now with a Forum board for your queries. http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry http://www.bmsgh.org/ On 30/10/2011 01:28, irl-tipperary-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 > 19:15:49 +0100 From: "Clare Tuohy" <annclare@gofree.indigo.ie> > Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Diseases in Bansha Tipperary 1840`s To: > <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: > <89A031FE76E6417EAEC500E374D9FA40@DH9R5Z0J> Content-T`s >> Hello from Australia . Matthew Ryan and Julia Tobin had their last child >> baptized at the Catholic Church Bansha in 1844 . The 1851 census has the >> family in London minus Matthew . There is no death registered in London , >> so >> could he have died in Bansha area Tipperary . Was there a disease like >> Cholera rampant then in this time slot . Looking at the 1851 London census >> , >> it seems everyone had maids from Tipperary , so there could have been an >> event which sent all to London . Thanks for any replies . Laurie >> >> >>

Mike . Thankyou for your Unfo , it very much appreciated . By the way I was a member of the BMSGH and went to a meeting the year the Westafairians burnt the Indian Shops in Birmingham . I am still in constant contact with Iain Swinnerton and Pauline Saul now Pedersen . Best regards Laurie -----Original Message----- From: irl-tipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-tipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike YEGWART Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2011 1:33 AM To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Diseases in Bansha Tipperary 1840`s Hi Laurie, This is a non-specific answer to your query. We have on our website a list of diseases provided by Jeanagh Punter. At the time you mentioned for Ireland, there is nothing specific, but the UK was having a bad time. http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=artic le&id=7:diseases-through-history&catid=19:bromsgrove-resources&Itemid=34 Whether the definition of UK included Ireland for these reports I don't know. You don't need rampant national disease to suffer from it locally. Merely living a few hundred yards downstream of the village toilet system (aka untreated sewage) often lead to a higher death rate at that end. Also tuberculosis was everywhere, especially in cold damp housing. Alternatively, he could have just fallen out of a tree playing. Or choked on his dinner. I think you should look again at where Matthew et al were living in London. Was it up market or down? And what was his occupation? This might give a backwards clue as to the living conditions in Tipp. I know RYAN is Irish, but could Matthew have been moved by service in the army? These may all be red herrings but you should still think about them being possibilities. Cheers Mike Mike Yegwart Branch Chairman Bromsgrove BMSGH The Family History Site for Worcestershire, now with a Forum board for your queries. http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry http://www.bmsgh.org/