I followed your Patrick's trail and found them in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 Census. They all confirm a Tipperary provenance. One possibility is that their births and marriage are in the "Black Hole of Drom" or the records of the Diocese of Cashel and Emly. The Mores family are one of the "Tribes of Galway" and were landowners in the Drom area from the 13th to 17th centuries. The civil record for his daughter Catherine (or one of the other children) will likely include the marriage date and location for Patrick and Catherine Murphy. Name: MORRIS, Catherine Registration District: Gower County: Glamorganshire Year of Registration: 1873 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's Maiden Name: Volume No: 11A Page No: 707 Mike Stapleton -----Original Message----- From: L Morriss Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:03 AM To: IRL-TIPPERARY@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-TIP] MORRIS/MORRISS research Hi i have tried in the past to research my paternal line and although made progress with the help of paid researchers and from this list. However iam still not in possesion of the facts i need to go any further with my Irish research. My question is can anyone locate a marriage of PATRICK MORRIS /CATHERINE MURPHY in county Tipperary or anywhere else in Ireland. On the 1881 census in Merthyr tydfil glamorgan Wales the family are residing 13 court upper taff street PATRICK is aged 32 and CATHERINE 28 Checking the Roman Catholic church of st MARY i found the first child from this marriage was MARY baptised 26 sep 1873 theres no record of the family on 1871 census i can find ,and no marriage in Wales or England. can someone help in anyway thankyou .JOHN MORRISS Deal kent IGP County Tipperary website: http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Small edit on the my last reply - please ignore the civil birth record for Catherine, the record below is the likely civil record for the church baptism you already for his daughter Mary . Name: MORRIS, Mary Registration District: Merthyr Tydfil County: Glamorganshire Year of Registration: 1873 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep Mother's Maiden Name: Volume No: 11A Page No: 504 Mike Stapleton -----Original Message----- From: Mike Stapleton Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2011 10:57 AM To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] MORRIS/MORRISS research I followed your Patrick's trail and found them in the 1881, 1891 and 1901 Census. They all confirm a Tipperary provenance. One possibility is that their births and marriage are in the "Black Hole of Drom" or the records of the Diocese of Cashel and Emly. The Mores family are one of the "Tribes of Galway" and were landowners in the Drom area from the 13th to 17th centuries. The civil record for his daughter Catherine (or one of the other children) will likely include the marriage date and location for Patrick and Catherine Murphy. Name: MORRIS, Catherine Registration District: Gower County: Glamorganshire Year of Registration: 1873 Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun Mother's Maiden Name: Volume No: 11A Page No: 707 Mike Stapleton -----Original Message----- From: L Morriss Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 11:03 AM To: IRL-TIPPERARY@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-TIP] MORRIS/MORRISS research Hi i have tried in the past to research my paternal line and although made progress with the help of paid researchers and from this list. However iam still not in possesion of the facts i need to go any further with my Irish research. My question is can anyone locate a marriage of PATRICK MORRIS /CATHERINE MURPHY in county Tipperary or anywhere else in Ireland. On the 1881 census in Merthyr tydfil glamorgan Wales the family are residing 13 court upper taff street PATRICK is aged 32 and CATHERINE 28 Checking the Roman Catholic church of st MARY i found the first child from this marriage was MARY baptised 26 sep 1873 theres no record of the family on 1871 census i can find ,and no marriage in Wales or England. can someone help in anyway thankyou .JOHN MORRISS Deal kent IGP County Tipperary website: http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message IGP County Tipperary website: http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message