Am not sure if I am misreading these messages but the 1840's were some of the most harrowing years in Irish history. There was the Great Famine with consequent "famine fever", cholera and typhoid were rife and the death rate was incredibly high. This is one of the many sites that gives some sense of the time. http://www.ego4u.com/en/read-on/countries/ireland/great-famine#h-2-1 Clare . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike YEGWART" <mike.yegwart@btinternet.com> To: <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2011 2:32 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Diseases in Bansha Tipperary 1840`s > Hi Laurie, > > This is a non-specific answer to your query. We have on our website a > list of diseases provided by Jeanagh Punter. At the time you mentioned > for Ireland, there is nothing specific, but the UK was having a bad time. > > http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/cms/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=7:diseases-through-history&catid=19:bromsgrove-resources&Itemid=34 > > Whether the definition of UK included Ireland for these reports I don't > know. You don't need rampant national disease to suffer from it > locally. Merely living a few hundred yards downstream of the village > toilet system (aka untreated sewage) often lead to a higher death rate > at that end. Also tuberculosis was everywhere, especially in cold damp > housing. > > Alternatively, he could have just fallen out of a tree playing. Or > choked on his dinner. > > I think you should look again at where Matthew et al were living in > London. Was it up market or down? And what was his occupation? This > might give a backwards clue as to the living conditions in Tipp. I know > RYAN is Irish, but could Matthew have been moved by service in the > army? These may all be red herrings but you should still think about > them being possibilities. > > Cheers > > Mike > > Mike Yegwart > > Branch Chairman > Bromsgrove BMSGH > > The Family History Site for Worcestershire, > now with a Forum board for your queries. > > http://www.bromsgrovebmsgh.co.uk/ > > The Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry > http://www.bmsgh.org/ > > > > On 30/10/2011 01:28, irl-tipperary-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 >> 19:15:49 +0100 From: "Clare Tuohy" <annclare@gofree.indigo.ie> >> Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Diseases in Bansha Tipperary 1840`s To: >> <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: >> <89A031FE76E6417EAEC500E374D9FA40@DH9R5Z0J> Content-T`s >>> Hello from Australia . Matthew Ryan and Julia Tobin had their last >>> child >>> baptized at the Catholic Church Bansha in 1844 . The 1851 census has the >>> family in London minus Matthew . There is no death registered in London >>> , >>> so >>> could he have died in Bansha area Tipperary . Was there a disease like >>> Cholera rampant then in this time slot . Looking at the 1851 London >>> census >>> , >>> it seems everyone had maids from Tipperary , so there could have been an >>> event which sent all to London . Thanks for any replies . Laurie >>> >>> >>> > IGP County Tipperary website: > http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 1682 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message