My Irish relatives came in the 1860s to the US (my dad's side) - no recipes survive! I have to do southern recipes as my mother's family is all from the south since 1686. Talk about a Tennessee baked ham and some greens and Sweet potato pie!! yum!! On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:58:55 -0500, Christina Finn Hunt <chrisnina@gmail.com> wrote: > Years ago I started an Irish recipe page. I usually suggest people > take a look at this time of the year as we are thinking of family and > food. > My goal was to get recipes as people remembered them from their > relatives. Not just something off the web. > We will name your recipe after the person who made it if you like. > Give me the name. > > http://www.igp-web.com/longford/recipes/main.htm

Years ago I started an Irish recipe page. I usually suggest people take a look at this time of the year as we are thinking of family and food. My goal was to get recipes as people remembered them from their relatives. Not just something off the web. We will name your recipe after the person who made it if you like. Give me the name. http://www.igp-web.com/longford/recipes/main.htm -- Christina To submit a recipe, use my email below: chrisnina@gmail.com

To the person who quiered the name MIA. According to my book, "NAMES, NICKNAMES, AND MISSPELLED NAMES" by Nancy Carlberg, the name MIA showsMary, May, Michelle, Maia, and Mya. Of course there always family nicknames that are just made up, or used because of association with an object or mispronunciation and kept because it sounded cute. My daughter Vicki is called "Bicky" because her sister couldn't pronounce the "v". She is 56 and we still call her Bicky. I hope this is of some help. Bonnie Garrity California In a message dated 11/21/2011 12:35:41 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, irl-tipperary-request@rootsweb.com writes: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ DELETE all extra text in the Digest Today's Topics: 1. Re: List of shortened names .. help please (Thomas Beall) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 17:45:18 -0700 From: Thomas Beall <tdbeall@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] List of shortened names .. help please To: <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <BAY157-W1B300F132EC388894B47FB9CB0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Teresa, Are you related to the Kemps of GA and TX? Thomas Beall > From: kemp.teresa.a@edumail.vic.gov.au > To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 00:39:40 +0000 > Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] List of shortened names .. help please > > And Batt is Bartholomew... took me ages to find that out! > Teresa > > > Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Early Childhood Development. > > IGP County Tipperary website: > http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-TIPPERARY list administrator, send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-TIPPERARY mailing list, send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-TIPPERARY Digest, Vol 6, Issue 163 *********************************************

Thank you to everyone who is trying to help me solve this problem :) I am HOPING the Mie is Michael .. Kathy: these are the ancestry records I found that you asked for : Patt Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 10 Mar 1798 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mie Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 25 Oct 1799 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan -------------------------------------------------------------------- Jud Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 8 Sep 1804 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan -------------------------------------------------------------------- Chr Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 10 Jul 1807 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan -------------------------------------------------------------------- Catty Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 3 Dec 1809 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nan Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 29 Nov 1812 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 26 Sep 1814 Jas Rice N Sulis --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jno Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 20 Sep 1814 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jno Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 20 Sep 1814 Jas Rice Nan Sulio ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks Kathy and everyone .. regards Maree Hobart

And Batt is Bartholomew... took me ages to find that out! Teresa Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Early Childhood Development.

Maree, Found all of these on the IFHF (www.rootsireland.ie) site. Your Patt is a Patrick, Mie is a Michael, Jud is a Judith, Chr is a Christopher, Catty is a Catherine, Nan is an Anne (for both the child AND the mother) Jno is of course John For that entry where you only have a surname for the child with a baptism date of 26 Sep 1814, I went thru the alphabet one letter at a time using those parents names in that parish and the ONLY thing that comes up for 1814 is the record for John. Those recs look like duplicates for him with variations on the spelling of the mothers surname and a confusion on the date 26 looking much like 20. ALSO, another possible sibling in this group...a James born 1818 (see last entry on the list below) You can purchase these records at the IFHF, but I don't know whether it would be worth it because you never know if its going to have more info on the record or not (it could have the occupations of the fathers, the addresses, etc, the priest's name and the witnesses as well) but there's no guarantee that there will be anything else even if you do purchase it. And what you will see is their transcription....not the original record. Hope this helps! Kathy ---------------------------------------------------- County Meath Parish: RATHKENNY (RC) Father: James Rice Mother: Anne Sullivan Action Source Surname First Name Year Church Baptism Rice Patrick 1798 Church Baptism Rice Michael 1799 Church Baptism Rice Judith 1804 Church Baptism Rice Christopher 1807 Church Baptism Rice Catherine 1809 Church Baptism Rice Anne 1812 Church Baptism Rice John 1814 Church Baptism Rice James 1818 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maree Larsen" <uniimog@internode.on.net> Thank you to everyone who is trying to help me solve this problem :) I am HOPING the Mie is Michael .. Kathy: these are the ancestry records I found that you asked for : Patt Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 10 Mar 1798 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mie Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 25 Oct 1799 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan -------------------------------------------------------------------- Jud Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 8 Sep 1804 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan -------------------------------------------------------------------- Chr Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 10 Jul 1807 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan -------------------------------------------------------------------- Catty Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 3 Dec 1809 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan ------------------------------------------------------------------ Nan Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 29 Nov 1812 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 26 Sep 1814 Jas Rice N Sulis --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jno Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 20 Sep 1814 Jas Rice Nan Sulivan --------------------------------------------------------------------- Jno Rice Grangegeeth, Monknewtown, Dowth, and Rathkenny Meath 20 Sep 1814 Jas Rice Nan Sulio ----------------------------------------------------------------------

Would it be possible if someone could help me please .. I am trying to find out what these given names might be .. are they commonly written this way ? They were found on ancestry for births in Co. Meath, Ireland ... Patt ... I would assume would be Patrick Mie ?? Jud ?? Chr ?? Catty ?? Nan ?? regards, Maree Larsen Hobart

Teresa, Are you related to the Kemps of GA and TX? Thomas Beall > From: kemp.teresa.a@edumail.vic.gov.au > To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 00:39:40 +0000 > Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] List of shortened names .. help please > > And Batt is Bartholomew... took me ages to find that out! > Teresa > > > Important - This email and any attachments may be confidential. If received in error, please contact us and delete all copies. Before opening or using attachments check them for viruses and defects. Regardless of any loss, damage or consequence, whether caused by the negligence of the sender or not, resulting directly or indirectly from the use of any attached files our liability is limited to resupplying any affected attachments. Any representations or opinions expressed are those of the individual sender, and not necessarily those of the Department of Education and Early Childhood Development. > > IGP County Tipperary website: > http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maree, Mie could have been incorrectly transcribed and could be Mic for Michael. Nan is a nickname often used for Ann. Karen. > From: uniimog@internode.on.net > To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 19:27:28 +1100 > Subject: [IRL-TIP] Shortened names .. help please ? > > Would it be possible if someone could help me please .. I am trying to find > out what these given names might be .. > are they commonly written this way ? > They were found on ancestry for births in Co. Meath, Ireland ... > > > > Patt ... I would assume would be Patrick > > Mie ?? > > Jud ?? > > Chr ?? > > Catty ?? > > Nan ?? > > regards, > Maree Larsen > Hobart > > IGP County Tipperary website: > http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

We have some new Headstone photos from Tipperary. Gortnahoe; Church of the Sacred Heart Graveyard from Mary Mamalakis. and Carrick-on-Suir; Faugheen & Carrickbeg; Friary Graveyard from Gerard Cooney Thanks to Mary and Gerald for sharing their photos. I have some more to come from Mary. Gortnahoe was transcribed by Joe Quinn. To check these out go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on TIPPERARY and then HEADSTONES. Like IGP on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Ireland-Genealogy-Projects/206512622694663?sk=wall ===============================

http://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Mie says it is the english version of MARY News to me! chrisnina@gmail.com wrote: Often shortened versions show the beginning of the name and a tiny last letter. I think this is Michael written MI and tiny l. Sometimes Michael is just Ml. -------------------------------  Little.House.Antiques wrote: > Mie - kinda stumps me...there are recs in both USA and ENGLAND -------------------------------

I am looking for some information on John REARDON born in Tipperary around 1834 to Mary INGLIS and John REARDON. Three of his surviving siblings ended up in Australia. His sister Catherine immigrated with their mother in 1853 and she died in 1866. I recently downloaded her death registration from the Victoria BDM website and it states that a John 32 was also living and that 9 children had died. I have absolutely no idea if he remained in Ireland or immigrated to the USA; his sister Mary is my husbands great great grandmother and she immigrated to the US before settling down in Victoria, Australia, with her only son William CANTWELL. His mother Mary INGLIS was the daughter of William INGLIS and Mary DWYER and she was married at 15 yrs old. Shirlee Wellington, NZ

Maree, Chr is most likely Christopher but could be Christian as well. JUD is actually a valid name not a nickname (at least in the USA) but could also be short for JUDE, JUDAH, or JUDITH. Catty is likely to be Katy/Katie only spelled w/C short for Catherine/Katherine or some variant of that name Mie - kinda stumps me...there are recs in both USA and ENGLAND census records w/ this being given as a proper name. Nan, is the nickname for quite a few given names: Ann, Anna, Ellen, Nancy, Agnes, Nannie, etc Sometimes it is helpful to cross reference records found on ancestry with other sources for the same records. For instance, you might be able to find these birth records on IFHF (http://www.rootsireland.ie) OR on the LDS FamilySearch.org website. If you'll provide a little more info (surname, sex, DOB, parish if known), I'll try and pull these index recs up for you to see if we can unravel the "nicknames" vs "real names".  Kathy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maree Larsen" <uniimog@internode.on.net> To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 3:27:28 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Shortened names .. help please ? Would it be possible if someone could help me please .. I am trying to find out what these given names might be .. are they commonly written this way ? They were found on ancestry for births in Co. Meath, Ireland ... Patt ... I would assume would be Patrick Mie ?? Jud ?? Chr ?? Catty ?? Nan ?? regards, Maree Larsen Hobart

But this says it is primarily Scandinavian. I just saw a name on Ancestry of Miel. Probably still Michael, but I wondered what it was. Chris Little.House.Antiques wrote: > http://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Mie > says it is the english version of MARY > News to me! > > chrisnina@gmail.com wrote: > Often shortened versions show the beginning of the name and a tiny last > letter. I think this is Michael written MI and tiny l. Sometimes Michael > is just Ml. > ------------------------------- > Little.House.Antiques wrote: >> Mie - kinda stumps me...there are recs in both USA and ENGLAND > ------------------------------- > > IGP County Tipperary website: > http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Often shortened versions show the beginning of the name and a tiny last letter. I think this is Michael written MI and tiny l. Sometimes Michael is just Ml. Chris Little.House.Antiques wrote: > Mie - kinda stumps me...there are recs in both USA and ENGLAND

Jan, There is a church and graveyard in the village of Moyne and also, I think, a new cemetery across the road from it. A useful site I have found is:: http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,591271,743300,0,10 Zoom in to where you want and then choose either one of the map possibilities. Historic 6" gives you the Griffith maps and the 25" is a more modern one about 1940. There are also aerial views which are excellent and better than Google Earth. Try Ortho 2005 and you can pan around and look for graveyards. Peter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Fortado" <janfortado2007@hotmail.com> To: <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2011 2:28 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Looking for a cemetery name in northern Tipperary > > Can anyone tell me if there is a cemetery that would be named wither > Templetuohy or Moyne? I know that the RC parish is calledMoyne and > Templetuohy. Supposedly there is a Quinlan stone in this cemetery that > mentions a marriage of a Quinlan to aGallagher from Kildorrery, Cork. I > would like to learn what the information is on the stone but need to know > what the cemetery isnamed. I have tried to find it online but have not had > any luck. Thank you. > > IGP County Tipperary website: > http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Jan asks: === Can anyone tell me if there is a cemetery that would be named wither Templetuohy or Moyne? === Jan, I have seen many requests for cemetery names over the years but, in my admittedly-specialized experience in several hundred graveyards in Ireland, I can recall only 3 or 4 where there was actually a name posted at the entrance. Granted, most of the burial grounds I have visited are long-disused. I guess I have always assumed that graveyards - unattached to a particular church - were just named after the town or townland where they existed. In your case here, I haven't found any names for the various cemeteries. But here's what I do have, from the following sources: Archaeological Inventory of County Tipperary - Vol. 1, North Tipperary Ordnance Survey Letters from 1840 Mitchell's Guide to Irish Churches and Graveyards Townland Index maps from the OS OS Discovery map 60 In the Moyne-part of the RC parish, Mitchell lists only two graveyards. One is in Cooleeny townland, listed as connected to the C of I church there. The Townland Index map (from 1949) does not show a church in the townland. The AI book does not identify a graveyard in the townland. The OS letters does not mention a graveyard in Cooleeny. However, the Discovery map does show a "Grave Yd." in the center of the townland, about a mile east of Moyne village - but no existing church. I think the most likely location in Moyne would be at a graveyard in Moyne village (Moynetemple townland) about 200 yds. north of the existing RC church. This cemetery contains the ruins of the medieval parish church of Moyne. AI says: "The church stands in the centre of a large graveyard containing headstones of 18th- and 19th-century date enclosed by a 19th-century stone wall. The OS letters say: "There is a large graveyard attached to this Church still much in use.....". I haven't visited this graveyard, as it is too recent for my interests. It's possible the cemetery may be known as Moynetemple Cemetery. For the Templetouhy-part of the RC parish, Mitchell lists 3 graveyards. One is in Ballyknockane townland. The AI book says: "Depicted as a graveyard with a church in ruins on the 1st edition OS 6-inch maps". The 1840 OS letters say: "There was another old Church in the Townland of Ballyknockan but there remains of it at present but a fragment of one wall three feet in thickness standing in a grave yard which is now deserted." Mitchell lists two other graveyards in Templetouhy civil parish - both in Longorchard townland (although one is listed as the "Village of Templetouhy, Chapel Street" - which is also in Longorchard tld.). The Discovery map identifies two "Grave Yd.", which both appear to be within the village. Mitchell lists one attached to the RC church (on Chapel Street) and the other - identified as separate from the village - at the C of I church in Longorchard. The OS letters say: "The old Church of Templetouhy is destroyed to the very foundations and a modern Church built near its site." No other information on this regarding a graveyard or the denomination of the church. This site is mentioned in the AI book, with the additional comment: "There are no remains of any church in the graveyard which contains 18th/19th-century headstones". No name for the graveyard given. Perhaps Longorchard? This would appear to be the graveyard located on the western side of a "driveway" from the S. side of the R 502 regional road, and just east of the intersection with the minor road heading N from the village center. But my information about the locations of the graveyards and churches in the village are conflicting, so I won't stand by any of those comments [gr]. Just what you wanted to hear, I'm sure. I can do a more detailed search of the townlands in the RC parish if you're interested. There may be other graveyards lurking there. But it will take me some time. And as you know, I'm a bit busy now. But let me know, anyway. Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

yes, there is definitely a cemetery in Moyne, 2 of them as Peter wrote and I visited both in 2005. I did forward a few pictures to the List and Christina to put on the website. I took pictures of some of the gravemarkers that pertained to my search and those are posted as well, though they did not include Quinlan or Gallagher. Mary In a message dated 11/18/2011 8:11:39 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, janfortado2007@hotmail.com writes: Can anyone tell me if there is a cemetery that would be named wither Templetuohy or Moyne? I know that the RC parish is calledMoyne and Templetuohy. Supposedly there is a Quinlan stone in this cemetery that mentions a marriage of a Quinlan to aGallagher from Kildorrery, Cork. I would like to learn what the information is on the stone but need to know what the cemetery isnamed. I have tried to find it online but have not had any luck. Thank you. IGP County Tipperary website: http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can anyone tell me if there is a cemetery that would be named wither Templetuohy or Moyne? I know that the RC parish is calledMoyne and Templetuohy. Supposedly there is a Quinlan stone in this cemetery that mentions a marriage of a Quinlan to aGallagher from Kildorrery, Cork. I would like to learn what the information is on the stone but need to know what the cemetery isnamed. I have tried to find it online but have not had any luck. Thank you.

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