Good morning My great g/father, William Robert Renison landed in Port Elizabeth, South Africa in about 1859 on the ship Vocalist (the list states he was from Tipperary). His subsequent marriages and children are well documented but there are 2 very important things which seem to be unknown :- His birth date and where he was born. He was from the Shannon Valley, Tipperary (this according to a genealogy book about the Renisons in South Africa). Subsequent to my taking an interest in my family history, it has emerged that there was another Renison living in South Africa at the time with the name Benjamin Joseph Renison born 8 May 1836, in Lockeen Glebe, Parsonstown, Ireland. If this was his brother or even cousin, perhaps they were from the same area in Ireland? There was also a sister with the name of Jane (possible birth date 17 March 1844). Rumour has it that another possible brother was Thomas Renison who went to America in 1868 and became the mayor of Salinas, California. There has also been a suggestion that Michael Renison who appeared on 1911 census in Ireland was also a brother? If there is a connection, the ancestry of the more "famous" Thomas or remaining Michael might give clues to the origins of my great grandfather. Perhaps related Renisons still live in Ireland today? My g/grandfather became a "schoolmaster" in the farming district of the Eastern Cape of South Africa, fathered 8 children and is said to have been an entertainer who played the violin at various events in the farming areas of Aberdeen, Willowmore, Jansenville and Steytlerville of the Eastern Cape of South Africa. There are many, many Renison descendants in South Africa who would be extremely happy to know more about his origins in Ireland. Does anyone on this list have any information or can link me up with anyone who would have baptism (Church of Ireland) or birth records of the areas in Ireland mentioned. I would also be pleased to hear from anyone with an interest in this surname as I would really love to find out more about the origins of the Renisons in Ireland. Antoinette Saunders

Thanks Kathy.. not sure about the bendy car hahaha.. not sure also if Cornelius was from Tipperary but his Mary Scully was..I cant find a Civil marriage for them in Tipperary and there are no church records online for Tipp South. The family I think lived on Church Street as per emigration records.. I have come across a family in Main Street in 1901 and 1911 census. Maybe this family were related Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Little.House.Antiques" <little.house.antiques@comcast.net> To: <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 11:08 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] MURNANE SCULLY RYAN TIPP TOWN > Margaret, > > I tooled around this morning a little looking in newspapers > for any mention of a Cornelius Murnane or a Mary Scully; > didn't turn up much but thought this 1941 article interesting! > (If this is your fella then he was really long in the tooth > when he invented this as it was 65 years after that 1876 > immigration date) but perhaps he had a son or grandson who > was mechanically inclined? lol! > > "AUTO BENDS IN THE MIDDLE > > MELBOURNE, Australia. -- A car that bends in the middle when > rounding corners has been invented by Cornelius Murnane of > Melbourne. It is hinged in the middle so that when the steering > wheel is turned the whole forepart of the chassis turns instead > of just the front wheels. Murnane claims this prevents skids. " > > Source: Genealogybank.com; "Trenton Evening Times"; published > 31 August 1941; New Jersey; Page 31. > > ---------original message------------ > <margaretspearin@eircom.net> wrote: >> I am looking for Mary Scully from Church Street Tipperary Town b. >> ab 1854. She emigrated to Australia on the Saint Lawrence in 1876. >> She was married to Cornelius Murnane ( not known whether in Ireland >> or Australia ) Any help with the Scully family from Tipp Town greatly >> appreciated. > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Tipperary Queries > http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=1200795777&frmid=84&cmd=show > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margaret, I tooled around this morning a little looking in newspapers for any mention of a Cornelius Murnane or a Mary Scully; didn't turn up much but thought this 1941 article interesting! (If this is your fella then he was really long in the tooth when he invented this as it was 65 years after that 1876 immigration date) but perhaps he had a son or grandson who was mechanically inclined? lol! "AUTO BENDS IN THE MIDDLE MELBOURNE, Australia. -- A car that bends in the middle when rounding corners has been invented by Cornelius Murnane of Melbourne. It is hinged in the middle so that when the steering wheel is turned the whole forepart of the chassis turns instead of just the front wheels. Murnane claims this prevents skids. " Source: Genealogybank.com; "Trenton Evening Times"; published 31 August 1941; New Jersey; Page 31. ---------original message------------ <margaretspearin@eircom.net> wrote: > I am looking for Mary Scully from Church Street Tipperary Town b. > ab 1854. She emigrated to Australia on the Saint Lawrence in 1876. > She was married to Cornelius Murnane ( not known whether in Ireland > or Australia ) Any help with the Scully family from Tipp Town greatly > appreciated.

I am looking for Mary Scully from Church Street Tipperary Town b. ab 1854. She emigrated to Australia on the Saint Lawrence in 1876. She was married to Cornelius Murnane ( not known whether in Ireland or Australia ) Any help with the Scully family from Tipp Town greatly appreciated. Thank you.. Margaret Visit the Spearin Surname Project @ http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~spearin/Index.html and here at our facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/219630734727688/

Would all friends and contacts of the late Cheryle Judge please contact me off list. Laraine in Oz

Would all friends and contacts of the late Cheryle Judge please contact me off list. Laraine in OZ

Would all those who have sent me emails re Cheryle Judge about her research and freindship please contact me again off list. Thanks you all I'm sure she is smiling. Laraine in oz

----- Original Message ----- From: Kaye Vernon To: Wilma big ones Jack ; Robert ; Pam Thompson ; Miriam Ward ; Leanne ; Jo ; Erin ; Carolyn Stewart ; Brendon Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 3:00 AM Subject: Cheryle I am not sure if you are all aware that we lost Cheryle last week. She died of lung and bone cancer while in Royal North Shore Hospital. She will be buried on Tuesday and her daughter has asked if her internet friends would like to write a few words about Cheryle to be read at her funeral. Please send them to me and I will forward on. Kaye Vernon

Amen to that. We do what we can do for as long as we can do it, don ----- Original Message ----- From: Iamhydee@aol.com To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 8:18:48 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Cheryle Judge To everyone, A shock to hear about the sad news that Cheryle is no longer with us. She was always so helpful - in many ways - to us. She and i were trying to find a common LONERGAN ancestor - never did find that one! Spent lots of time - in chat rooms - in frequent emails - all for the love of our genealogical pursuits. When I needed some information "out of Australia," I could count on Cheryle to find it for me. I think the last time I heard from her was when she sent me the most beautiful E Christmas card. Who knew that it would be her last communication? That only reminds us how fleeting everything is and that we should just keep going, and going, and going! Right? So - let's do that, folks! Heidi ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tipperary Queries http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=1200795777&frmid=84&cmd=show ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To everyone, A shock to hear about the sad news that Cheryle is no longer with us. She was always so helpful - in many ways - to us. She and i were trying to find a common LONERGAN ancestor - never did find that one! Spent lots of time - in chat rooms - in frequent emails - all for the love of our genealogical pursuits. When I needed some information "out of Australia," I could count on Cheryle to find it for me. I think the last time I heard from her was when she sent me the most beautiful E Christmas card. Who knew that it would be her last communication? That only reminds us how fleeting everything is and that we should just keep going, and going, and going! Right? So - let's do that, folks! Heidi

Dear List a long time friend and member of our site Cheryle Judge of Australia passed away yesterday. I do not know who she was in contact with on our site. So perhaps a few prayers in her Memory from all please. Laraine in Oz

So sorry to hear of Cheryle (with an 'e', please) Judge passing away. I knew she was having some health issues but didn't realize how serious. We actually met through the Tipp chat room years ago and corresponded ever since about geneaology, books, weather, politics, jokes and dogs. I've wondered just recently why I hadn't heard from her. May she rest in peace. Erin O'Mara-James

I have a bit of Judge family information provide by Cheryl with an e several years ago on my Australia website. Anyone interested I'll visit the site and post the URL to it. Prayers from here in Forest grove, Oregon. don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <chrisnina@gmail.com> To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 3:20:23 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] cheryle Judge Oh no. I am so sorry. We exchanged emails about books. She loved to read. Thanks for telling us Laraine. Christina Laraine Dillon wrote: > Dear List a long time friend and member of our site Cheryle Judge of > Australia passed away yesterday. > I do not know who she was in contact with on our site. > So perhaps a few prayers in her Memory from all please. > Laraine in Oz ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tipperary Queries http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=1200795777&frmid=84&cmd=show ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cheryl and I exchanged information for several years. Yet I did not know she was ill. Prayers for her family come from here. donkelly, IGP volunteer ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laraine Dillon" <lmcd44@bigpond.com> To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 2:47:58 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] cheryle Judge Dear List a long time friend and member of our site Cheryle Judge of Australia passed away yesterday. I do not know who she was in contact with on our site. So perhaps a few prayers in her Memory from all please. Laraine in Oz ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Tipperary Queries http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=1200795777&frmid=84&cmd=show ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks Clare & Little House Yes I have tried rootsireland.ie. I tried it before it had the advanced search features it has now. So I have the following records that I bought trying to track down John Darcey & Katherine Hogan (Michael's parents). I had had some great success tracking down other ancestors in different parts of Ireland - so I was a bit over enthusiastic. So I have the following records if they are of any help to anyone. They are all marriages: John Darcy and Margaret Collins - 1939 - Newport John Darcy and Sarah Dunne - 1838 - Borrisokane John Darcy and Ellen Gaynor - 1840 - Terryglass John Darcy and Margaret Tierney - 1840 - Dunkerrin Cheers, Karen. ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 14:29:54 -0000 From: "Clare Tuohy" <annclare@gofree.indigo.ie> Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] HOGAN and DARCEY Borrisokane To: <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <8FB0BB2FC8D0465E94E5431BEF2D7837@DH9R5Z0J> Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Karen The Rootsireland.ie site for North Tipperary Centre - shows a baptismal record for a Michael Darcy in Borrisokane RC parish in 1847 Father's surname Darcy Mother's name Hogan but when I put in the parents personal names I did not get a match so it may not be the right Michael Darcy. You can search the index for free at Roots Ireland once you have registered but to view the record it costs EU 5.Clare Message: 3 Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2012 15:07:27 +0000 (UTC) From: "Little.House.Antiques" <little.house.antiques@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] HOGAN and DARCEY Borrisokane To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1120355496.845607.1326726447202.JavaMail.root@sz0109a.westchester.pa.mail.c omcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Clare and Karen, It is possible to figure out the names of the parents of these records by trial and error; here's the record Clare is talking about: Parish: BORRISOKANE (RC) Church Baptism Darcy Michael 1847 Co. Tipperary Father: James Darcy Mother: Margaret Hogan There is another Michael Darcy born 1847 in same parish: Parish: BORRISOKANE (RC) Church Baptism Darcy Michael 1847 Co. Tipperary Father: John Darcy Mother: Sarah ???? (whatever surname is it is NOT HOGAN) Another born in 1847 as follows: Parish: BALLINA (RC) Church Baptism Darcy Michael 1847 Co. Tipperary Father: Patrick Darcy Mother: Margaret ???? (whatever surname is it is NOT HOGAN) And two more born in 1845 as follows: Parish: BALLINA (RC) Church Baptism Darcy Michael 1845 Co. Tipperary Father: Matthew Darcy Mother: Mary ???? (whatever surname is it is NOT HOGAN) Parish: CLOUGHJORDAN (RC) Church Baptism Darcy Michael 1845 Co. Tipperary Father: William Darcy Mother: Margaret ???? (whatever surname is it is NOT HOGAN) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Tuohy" <annclare@gofree.indigo.ie> To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 9:29:54 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] HOGAN and DARCEY Borrisokane Karen The Rootsireland.ie site for North Tipperary Centre - shows a baptismal record for a Michael Darcy in Borrisokane RC parish in 1847 Father's surname Darcy Mother's name Hogan but when I put in the parents personal names I did not get a match so it may not be the right Michael Darcy. You can search the index for free at Roots Ireland once you have registered but to view the record it costs EU 5.Clare

Don & list... Much of my contact with Cheryle was about mysteries which she loved. I told her about the Goodreads site for listing your books. She joined and friended me there. I noticed I was her only friend there, but still she liked to keep up her books. I thought for anyone who knew her I would post her page. http://www.goodreads.com/user/show/460802-cheryle Goodbye Cheryle. With two "e's". donkelly wrote: > I have a bit of Judge family information provide by Cheryl with an e several years ago on my Australia website. Anyone interested I'll visit the site and post the URL to it. > > Prayers from here in Forest grove, Oregon. > > don >

Oh no. I am so sorry. We exchanged emails about books. She loved to read. Thanks for telling us Laraine. Christina Laraine Dillon wrote: > Dear List a long time friend and member of our site Cheryle Judge of > Australia passed away yesterday. > I do not know who she was in contact with on our site. > So perhaps a few prayers in her Memory from all please. > Laraine in Oz

Good morning Val, I'm sorry, no, that is not my Denis Hogan, but thank you for your interest. Unfortunately, I have no knowledge of the names of Denis' parents, nor do I have any info on their lives in Ireland, apart from them, presumably, being farm labourers in Tipperary. In 1841, my Denis Hogan was working somewhere between Windsor, New South Wales, and Sydney! In 1842 in Sydney, Denis married Margaret Carey, b. ca 1811, an Irish immigrant who came here on one of the first trials of immigration, particularly of women. I contributed my slight information on Margaret Carey to Elizabeth Rushen, who was looking for contributions to enable her to write "Single and Free - Female Migration to Australia 1833-1837", and I was subsequently rewarded with a little more info. on Margaret before she arrived here. Denis and Margaret's first child was James Hogan b. 1835, Windsor, New South Wales, d. 1892, North Sydney; the second was John, b (baptised??) 12.6.1842, Sydney d. 1895, Forest Reefs N.S.W.; the third was Mary b. ca 1845, probably in Sydney - no further knowledge, and the fourth was Timothy, b. 25.4.1848 Sydney who possibly died ca 1856. There is scant info. on Mary and Tim, and I think they may have been placed in a R.C. Orphanage, as their parents were deceased by the time these two children died. One of my aunts, Frances, (named after the following Frances Marjoram), started me on all this family history nearly 40 years ago. At some stage many years ago, someone told me that there was a Nun in our family, and I think this might have been Denis' daughter, Mary, but have no way of proving it. Timothy was b. May 1848, and I have no other knowledge on him, except that I think he died about 1856, but can't prove it. Those four children's names are also Saints' names, so it makes it difficult to know the names of previous ancestors. I am descended from John Hogan, who married Frances Marjoram (the daughter and grand-daughter of my English convicts, William and Robert Marjoram from Bredfield, Suffolk) in Lucknow NSW in 1866. John Hogan was probably a farm hand, but he eventually became a gold miner, and looking at the births of their 12 children, they were all born on the Central Tablelands gold-fields, around Forest Reefs, Carcoar, Molong and Orange. My grandfather James Hogan, was baptised 3.11.1872 at Lumpy Swamp (Carcoar), married Adeline Newstead, and my father, Wilfred John Hogan was born at Brown's Creek, Blayney in 1902, where the Newsteads, immigrants from Norfolk, settled as farmers. Frances Hogan, apart from bringing up her 12 children, went on to be a mid-wife on the goldfields mentioned above. My father's sister, also Frances, told me all about their young lives spent between the Hogan/Marjoram family, and the Newstead family. I would still have connections to those families, but most did not seem to get into family history! My father and his sisters also lived on the Kalgoorlie goldfields for a while in their very young lives, but eventually ended up in the Chatswood/Willoughby area, and that is where I lived until about 4 years ago, when I decided to move to a less busy part of New South Wales. Only James and John went on to have large families, and I think a number of James Hogan's children might have been born in the area a bit north of Newcastle (NSW). On 16/01/2012 10:16 PM, val kenelley wrote: > Hi Elizabeth. > Found this article put out by Mary heapy awhile ago i used to print out all her work and have them in folders > This is dated 7-4-1841 > During service on sunday last,the house of james carbery, steward to W. Roe,ESQ of Rockwell,was attacked by an armed party. The door being broken,a man with his face blackened entered,and presenting a gun at the breast of a maid-servant,who was the only person at home,demanded arms. On her saying there were none,he seized her by the hair and forsed her into a closet, locked the door and commenced a very diligent search. The girl contrived to make her escape to Rockwell House; and was hotley pursued by the ruffian, who fired at her , but without effect. > The Marquis of Waterford and the Reverend Mr. Mandeville,returning from New Melton Church,heard of the outrage:his lordship proceeded forthwith in pursuit; and after a run of a mile and a half over a stiff country,accounted his man in the house of denis Hohan,at the commons of cashel;where,on entering his Lordship said," Come along old chap ! you should have washed your face a little better." As soon as he brought the prisoner to the high road, her placed him in his phaeton,,which his servand followed with in, the direction of the chase. His Lordship drove him to rockwell; where he was fully identified,and commirred for trial at the next Assizes. Two other fellows have been arrested by Captain Nagle. > As Your Denis was tried in 1833 is this another denis maybee. > at least it gives a house in the commons of Cashel. Cheers for now > Val > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Tipperary Queries > http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/static/show.php?usernum=1200795777&frmid=84&cmd=show > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I finally got the tithe applotments for the Middlethird Barony (South Riding) indexed and online (Co Tipperary section of my website). This will help with your search. Just find your name, and get the civil parish. When you check the civil parish tithes, you can get the townland. Please note the following: Holycross Civil Parish is in both the North and South Riding. When I transcribed the tithes for the parish, I found only two townlands and both are in the North Riding, therefore, there are no tithes for the part of the parish that is in the South Riding. Also, the index is not in strict alpha order because I had problems getting Drangan Civil Parish to fully integrate. Sorry, this took so long, between the holidays, some health issues and my trip to Florida, I just didn't find the time to get it formatted and online. -- Pat Connors, visiting Rotonda West FL http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Hi Elizabeth. Found this article put out by Mary heapy awhile ago i used to print out all her work and have them in folders This is dated 7-4-1841 During service on sunday last,the house of james carbery, steward to W. Roe,ESQ of Rockwell,was attacked by an armed party. The door being broken,a man with his face blackened entered,and presenting a gun at the breast of a maid-servant,who was the only person at home,demanded arms. On her saying there were none,he seized her by the hair and forsed her into a closet, locked the door and commenced a very diligent search. The girl contrived to make her escape to Rockwell House; and was hotley pursued by the ruffian, who fired at her , but without effect. The Marquis of Waterford and the Reverend Mr. Mandeville,returning from New Melton Church,heard of the outrage:his lordship proceeded forthwith in pursuit; and after a run of a mile and a half over a stiff country,accounted his man in the house of denis Hohan,at the commons of cashel;where,on entering his Lordship said," Come along old chap ! you should have washed your face a little better." As soon as he brought the prisoner to the high road, her placed him in his phaeton,,which his servand followed with in, the direction of the chase. His Lordship drove him to rockwell; where he was fully identified,and commirred for trial at the next Assizes. Two other fellows have been arrested by Captain Nagle. As Your Denis was tried in 1833 is this another denis maybee. at least it gives a house in the commons of Cashel. Cheers for now Val