Sorry Sheila, I haven't come across the mentioned names. Karen Sheilaploof1@aol.com wrote: >Karen and Cindy, > >I wonder would you have a (Mary) Reynolds married to a Kennedy, with >children Bridget, Catherine (who may have been deaf), John, Thomas and Ann(e) >(perhaps others)? Trying to find my great grandfather's sister Mary. Do not know >her husband's name. Mary and children were in NY by about 1850, in Green >Island. > >Thank you. >Sheila > > >==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >To Unsubscribe: Send email to IRL-TIPPERARY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. >For digest the address is IRL-TIPPERARY-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >[If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] > > >

Hello Ellen, As you haven't mentioned anything, I presume there was no other information about any Hogan family? TIA Liz Walker (nee Hogan) in Sydney. At 02:37 PM 11/12/2005, you wrote: >Does anyone on the list know of a townland called Clonahas? In 1856 an ad >appeared in the Boston Pilot seeking Michael Ryan from the parish of >Terryglass in Tipperary, townland of Clonahas. I can find no mention of >this place on the net. The contact was Darby Hogan in Palmyra in upstate NY. > > Thaks, Ellen

Ted, can you e-mail me, I deleted your e-mail by mistake and want to contact you. Cheers Mary

Just an update. Still searching for information on Andrew Mandeville, believed to be related to the Mandevilles of Annagh Castle. He died between 1820 and 1840 and could be buried at Clonmel, Carrick or Kilsheelan. married Johanna Hays and had daughter Ann born 1820. Anyone with information about churches in Carrick or Kilsheelan? Have checked the Clonmel RC church some years ago. No record of his burial according to the parish priest. Carole Hayes, Long beach Australia.

--- Original Message --- From: "carole hayes" <cahayes@tadaust.org.au> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Cc: Sent: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:11:36 -0700 Subject: {not a subscriber} Tertiary Education Tipperary Where would someone from Clonmel go to become a veterinarian in the mid 1800s . I have checked the Alumni Dublineses of Trinity Collge but they only cover a certain period and I am not sure what years I am referring to. I believe a John Mandeville became a vet and I think he was born in 1825. Can anyone help? Carole Hayes, Long Beach Australia

Holycross Abbey - Here lies the body of Thomas Cullen, who died 28 April 1754, aged 76, and Anastasia Cullen alias Marnil; died 4 Jan 1789, aged 100, and Cath. Cullens als. Bourke, died 22 Jan. 1792, aged 36; Mr John Cullen of Holycross died, 2 Dec. 1838, aged 70, and his wife Mary Cullen als Dalton, died 13 Nov. 1839, aged 62. Miss Mgt. Cullen died, 9 May 1848, aged 90, and her nephew Mr. John Cullen of Thurles died 21 Nov. 1864, aged 56. Templemore Graveyard Erected to the memory of Daniel Lanigan, Barrister at Law, eldest son of Stephen Lanigan of Templemore, who departed this life 11th day of February 1822, in the 30th year of his age. Robert Ball Fitzgerald, born 16th Nov. 1853; died 5th April. 1877. R.I.P. Charles Clarke Fitzgerald to memory of his wife Eliza Jane Fitzgerald, who was born 13 April 1830; died 1st April 1857. Ballycahill. Thomas Armstrong of Moyaliff died 20th July 1741, aged 79. Walter Burke died 1794, aged 77; his wife Mary Ryan died 1793 aged 60. John Burke died 1797, aged 24. Templederry. Col Henry Otway died Wednesday, 19th Jan. 1736, aged 37. Moycarkey Graveyard:- James Butler died 1779, aged 50. John Mara died 1771, age 74. Dan Mc Guire died 1725, age 49. In the present chapel yard is tomb of Mrs Eliz. Fallon of Cabra Castle, wife of Col. Fallon, and sister of Val. Maher of Turtulla and John Maher of Tullamaine; she died 1875, aged 87. Max:- erected by William Max of Maxfort in memory of his wife, who d. 1863 and his son William Max, who d. 1867 John Cormack died 1791, aged 63. Ballymoreen Graveyard:- Thomas Lamphier died at Waterford 1803, aged 41; his maternal Aunt, Anne Pennefeather died at Littleton in 1830, and John L. of Parkstown d. 1770. John Going of New Hill, died 1831. Margaret Baker d. 1752. Michael Lahy died 1774. Ryan Inch. Tombstone in Nenagh Graveyard; - To Frances, wife of John Minchin of Annagh, only daughter of Dan Ryan of Inch, and relict of Power of Waterford; she died, 1696. Loughmore Graveyard. John Cahill of Ballycahill Ho. died 1803, aged 56. His grandson, Charles Brophy of Thurles, student of Maynooth College, d. 1811, age 20. Mary

The following list of persons buried in the cemetery of Clonoulty and at whose funerals the Priests of this Parish officiated. During the incumbency of the Rev. Mr Mackey the Priests of this Parish officiated: At the funeral of the Rev. John Browne, P.P., Ballyland­ers, in July 1839. At the funeral of Mrs Thomas Keogh, Laffana, in Septem­ber 1840. At the funeral of Mrs James Horan, Torah, in February 1842. At the funeral of Mrs Tim Moloney, Clonoulty, in Novem­ber 1842. At the funeral of Mr Thomas Keogh, Laffana, in Novem­ber 1844. At the funeral of Mrs James Hickey, Clogher, in March 1849. At the funeral of Mr Edmond Browne, Clonoulty, in April 1855. Rev. Philip Scanlon, C.C., Killenaule, officiated at the funeral of Mrs Ryan, Park, on 25th of November 1855. The Pastor of Clonoulty officiated at the funeral of Miss Ellen Keogh of Laffana in April 1856. He also officiated at the funeral of Mrs John Lambe, Cloneyross, in June 1858. And also officiated at the funeral of Mrs John Gould, Clonoulty, in May 1859. Mary

Names of Teachers and of the parishes in which they taught; some taught catechism in the chapel. 1764. Mullinahone - Mathew Hackett, Schoolmaster. 1758. Mullinahone Wm. O'Brien; Rd. Butler; Nicholas Poor, Patrick Brien 1758. Drangan - Daniel Ryan; Cloneen- ?Fenall. 1758. Gortnahoe (Kilcooly, Boulick, Fennor) - John Butler; Darby Ryan. 1758. Templemore and Killea - James Fogarty; James Ryan. 1758. Bohir (Templeically) - Michael Clancy; Conor Dwyer. 1758. Ballingarry (Lismalin and Crohane)-Thomas Keating; Thomas Kennedy; James Butler. 1758. Killoscully - Denis Kennedy; Ballinahinch - Thomas Neehil. 1759. Drombane:- Thomas Grace, who produced a Catechism in Irish, but in English characters. 1759. Upperchurch - Thomas Ryan. Clonoulty - John D'wyer. 1759. Cashel. Mathew Meagher; Denis McGrath ;A....Lanigan. 1741. Emly - Thomas Liston (primary). 1743-7. Templebraden - Val. Roche. 1751. Holycross - William Ryan. 1754. Clonoulty - John Ryan; James Gleeson 1754. Inch and Glankeen - Thomas Leamy, chapel of Inch. 1754. Ileagh chapel - Laurence Carroll, Wm. Dwyer. 1754. Boulick (Boulick, Kilcooly, Fennor, Glengoole) - John Butler. 1752. Murroe - Daniel Tearny. 1759. Fethard.- Denis Morisy; ?Fleming; Mary Joyns; Cath. Cudyhy; Julian Ryan. 1759. Two mile - Borris - Henry Fox; Cornelius Ryan. 1759. Templetuohy ?Meagher. 1759. Thurles - Theobald Bourk; Philip Kelly; and also a classical teacher. 1759. Holycross - James Byrn; Ballycahill - John Ryan. 1759. Knockavelly chapel - Pat Dwyer; Donaskeagh - Malachy Ryan. 1759. Kilmoyler parish district - Simon Liston; William Ryan. 1759. Knockgraffon (Boytonrath, Loughhent and Knockgraffon) - Denis Ryan; John Keefe. 1760 Bohirlahan Micheal Mc Grath; Dually - John Ryan. 1760. Clarin near Ardmayle - John Commins. 1760. Killenaule or Moyglass? Edmond Dyer; James Mullane. 1754. Ballina - James McKeogh. 1754. Templeree parish - Loughlen McVoy; Kilduff in Killea - John Carroll. 1754. Drum - James Stapleton. Templetuohy - Patrick Meagher. 1754. Loughmore - Edm. Dwyer; Killusty - Pat Ryan. 1754. Newchapel (near Orchardstown; Kiltinan etc.) - Hugh Daniel; Wm. Ryan. 1754. Cloneen and Drangan:- James Ryan, at Cloneen; Daniel Ryan and Tom Kennedy both in parish of Drangan; Mary Walsh at Ballylusky in parish of Magoury. 1754. Ballingarry - Wm. Polard in Ballingarry chapel; James Butler at Mohobbir. 1754. Killenaule - Patrick Head; Ballycahill - John Ryan; Thurles Toby Bourke. 1758. Cashel ....McGrath. 1754. Thurles Toby Bourk. 1752. Fennor - Cornelius Ryan; Kilamastulla - John Sullivan. 1756. Killinal - Peter Moloy. 1743. Duniskeagh - Edmd. English. 1749 Sollihidbeg - Tim Ryan. 1746. Malachy Dwyer (Donaskeagh?). 1753. Thomas Sullivan, Silvermines. 1748. Cappaghwhite - Pat Ryan; Pat Croneen; Malachy Gleeson. 1745. Thomas English. A student from Donohill parish studied with him. 1750. Thomas Leacy (Ballycahill) a student from Ballycahill, born 1740, began with him. Mary

1803. To let for 3 years - 159 acres in Fishmoyne. Apply to Theobald Butler of Fishmoyne. 1816. To let:- Drom House - 50a. in the house division. Lands lately held by William Russell and Ed. Fanning; McDonnells farm - 50a; Killedra - 50a - held by Dan Ryan. Proposals to James Fogarty of Clonismullen, Con Cahill of Rathleasty and Phil Cahill, attorney in Dublin. 1677. (18th Ch. II) Grant to Theobald Mathew (Thurles) and his heirs for ever of the lands of Coolcroo, Two-Mile-Borris and Athshanboy (Upperchurch). 1677 Grant to John Grace, and his heirs for ever, the castle, town and lands of Brittas; also lands in Athshanboy. Upperchurch. 1630. Richard Oge Bourke of Barracurra, Ballycahill, died 1630. Redmond Bourke, his great grand nephew, - at a later date got the lands as his heir. Some rent out of lands was paid to the Duke of Ormond. Armstrongs:- William Armstrong came to Ireland in 1670 and settled in the old castle at Farney Bridge, on a lease granted by Duke of Ormond. He was Capt. of a troop of horse attached to the Tipperary Miliatia in 1688. He married Alice, daughter of Sir Thomas Deane of Suffolk. 1757. Lease by John Damer for 31 years to Con Cahill, of Rathleasty - 157a, formerly held by Cahill, Hanly and Butler. Mount Alt Ballycahill, 80acres to be let for a term of years; house only built a few years; also part of lands of Annefield. Apply to Thomas Lanigan, Castlefogarty. 1815. Purchased in recent years:- (1) Annefield by John Byrne of Dublin for £15,000. (2) Graigpadden, Moyne, Tullamac James, Barrettstown, Cabra, and Gatterstown - the whole lot - by Nicholas Maher of Dublin for £40,000. (3) Boulick near Littlefield - by John Byrne (Dublin) for £15,000. (4) Property near Thurles town by T. Kirwan for £9000. (5) Property near Thurles town by Thomas Ryan for £6000. (6) John Lalor of Crannagh bought Longorchard for £6000, and Anameadle for £10,000. Mary

From the diocese of Cashel and Emly. Students of Irish College Salamanca on the 3rd Aug. 1790. Messrs Patrick Mangan, Daniel Murray, Kyran Marum, John Power, George Murphy, Robert Laffan, John McMullin, Daniel Philips, Charles Burke, James Coleman, James Byrne, James Byrne, John Grady, Walter Balfe, John Robinson, Patrick Walsh, Francis Lennan, John Heron, Edward Kiernan, Richard Burke, George Shea, James Magawan, Demetrius Tuohy, John McKeon, Oliver O' Kelly. Mary

Looking for descendants of David Haskett and Mary Finucane. Have marriages of their children at the Catholic Parish of Ballina-Bohr. Mary died by 1845 as David married Johanna Cummins and had at least 6 more children have info to share with other descendants and if anyone can help it would be appreciated. Dan Walker

Hi Liz, The Hogans in question lived in Palmyra NY next door to Matt Ryan and his wife Catherine White. Darby was born in about 1861 in Tipperary I believe, no positive proof of birthplace. He is married to a woman named Mary. I am not directly related to the Hogans as far as I know at this point, but the Ryan family. Matt Ryan is buried next to Darby Hogan in Darby's family plot, and a Bridget Hogan married Andrew Ryan who was either a cousin or brother of Matt. Not having much luck with the Ryans at present, so I've moved on to relatives and neighbors. I'm wondering if the Mary Ryan searching for her brother Michael was Darby's wife Mary. Regards, Ellen Elizabeth Walker <lizrose@tpg.com.au> wrote: Hello Ellen, As you haven't mentioned anything, I presume there was no other information about any Hogan family? TIA Liz Walker (nee Hogan) in Sydney. At 02:37 PM 11/12/2005, you wrote: >Does anyone on the list know of a townland called Clonahas? In 1856 an ad >appeared in the Boston Pilot seeking Michael Ryan from the parish of >Terryglass in Tipperary, townland of Clonahas. I can find no mention of >this place on the net. The contact was Darby Hogan in Palmyra in upstate NY. > > Thaks, Ellen ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== Check out the Coroners Inquests: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/inquests/index.htm --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping

Karen and Cindy, I wonder would you have a (Mary) Reynolds married to a Kennedy, with children Bridget, Catherine (who may have been deaf), John, Thomas and Ann(e) (perhaps others)? Trying to find my great grandfather's sister Mary. Do not know her husband's name. Mary and children were in NY by about 1850, in Green Island. Thank you. Sheila

Hello Cindy, It sounds like you had quite an adventure at Curreeny - I glad you didn't end up hurting yourself. I have found someone that has a few pages copied from the publication but not the actual book. She could help me with some of the Kennedys buried in the area but I don't have anything else. I am looking for the Lee family and some Kennedys but unfortunately the Kennedy I am looking for wasn't listed. If you happen to get a copy please let me know and if I happen to get one I will also certainly pass the info on. Would you like me to send you the Kennedy info I have from the booklet? sincerely, Karen Ndhockey49112@aol.com wrote: >Karen: > >One place you might try to purchase these publications is the Celtic Bookshop >in Limerick city. That's where I've managed to pick up a couple back issues >of the Society's publications. > >Curreeny graveyard is really interesting, up above the road, literally on the >side of a hill. I was in it a couple years ago following a rain and about >wound up sliding on my keyster down to the edge of the graveyard, where it would >have been about a 3 foot drop to the road. Such a dignified picture. > >I'm particularly interested in the Templederry graves that might be listed, >so I will give my cousin, who is a member of the society a call, and see if he >has the publication, or if he can run into the library and copy the pages for >me. > >Cindy > > >==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >VISIT COUNTY TIPPERARY GENEALOGY: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/ >Contact the Listowner at: >mailto:IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com > > >

Does anyone on the list know of a townland called Clonahas? In 1856 an ad appeared in the Boston Pilot seeking Michael Ryan from the parish of Terryglass in Tipperary, townland of Clonahas. I can find no mention of this place on the net. The contact was Darby Hogan in Palmyra in upstate NY. Thaks, Ellen --------------------------------- Yahoo! Shopping Find Great Deals on Holiday Gifts at Yahoo! Shopping

Karen: One place you might try to purchase these publications is the Celtic Bookshop in Limerick city. That's where I've managed to pick up a couple back issues of the Society's publications. Curreeny graveyard is really interesting, up above the road, literally on the side of a hill. I was in it a couple years ago following a rain and about wound up sliding on my keyster down to the edge of the graveyard, where it would have been about a 3 foot drop to the road. Such a dignified picture. I'm particularly interested in the Templederry graves that might be listed, so I will give my cousin, who is a member of the society a call, and see if he has the publication, or if he can run into the library and copy the pages for me. Cindy

Hello all, I have received references of a Publication printed by the Ormond Historical Society and was told by a member of the society that there are likely no copies still available to be bought as most of them went to libraries and other historic societies of the area. The publication I am looking for is the following: GRAVESTONE INSCRIPTIONS, CO. TIPPERARY Section B: Barony of Upper Ormond Compiled by Denise Foulkes Volume 9: Parish of Templederry Templederry C of I, Church & Graveyard Templederry RC Church & Grounds Curreeny Graveyard Would anybody out there happen to have a copy and might be able to do a lookup for me? I'd appreciate any help. Thanks, Karen

They could conceivably come up with an index right now, as each county Heritage Centre had the census information indexed and put on computer a number of years ago to make their searching easier and quicker. For some reason, though, that kind of cooperation doesn't seem to exist in this world, so I won't be holding my breath. As well, in my experience, "available from Dec. 2006" is also probably a lofty statement, again because of the government involvement. We could probably have the whole of Tipperary indexed and transcribed by that time and up on the web! Now, if they hired a genealogy company, such as Eneclann (not a tout, I just happen to know them!), then it might fly, but leaving it up to the government to do the work, don't be holding your breath. Cindy

Good question Mary Anne, I had assumed it would be indexed and contain all details but your query has started me thinking. Going on the current record of the government as regards computers and delivering on promises I am a tiny bit worried about the end result and when we will see it. Peter. ----- Original Message ----- From: gothic@acd.net To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:21 PM Subject: RE: [TIP] 1901 and 1902 At last some good news from our Government thanks to the Canadian Government telling them how to do it. Hi Peter: Do you know if it will be an index or the full blown census? This should be great news for those of us in the States too. Mary Anne -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== To Unsubscribe: Send email to IRL-TIPPERARY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. For digest the address is IRL-TIPPERARY-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa]

At last some good news from our Government thanks to the Canadian Government telling them how to do it. Hi Peter: Do you know if it will be an index or the full blown census? This should be great news for those of us in the States too. Mary Anne -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .