Just returned from Ireland, I was able to find the following marriages. My interest lies with Judith Ryan b.1831.11.23 I believe she is the brother of my gg grandfather Denis Ryan b. 1834.09.04 in Gortshane, Newport, Tipp. I also think that it is most likely that James who married Joh McGrath would be her son. Any information about the following will be appreciated. Thank you Bob Ryan ryanblack@cox.net LACY 1798.02.05 George married Margarite Ryan 1815.01.25 William married Mary Brien Ml. Brien & Dan Guidera Servant Newport 1821.03.04 John married Mary Wall Michael Wall & John Wall Carpenter Killaloe 1857.02.21 George married Judith Ryan Ml. Ryan & Mgt. Ryan Gortshane Children born to George and Julia Lacy from Newport James 1858.02.08 (says Julia) Patrick 1860.04.07 (says Judy) Mary 1866.12.12 (says Jud) 1891.02.03 James married Joh McGrath Mal. Ryan & Honora Ryan Knockane Children born to James and Joh. McGrath (Newport) George 1892.05.18 Jas. 1893.07.17 Mary 1896.05.19

Excellent article at http://www.enter.net/~torve/trogholm/wonder/indoeuropean/indoeuropean1.html Janet

If they were going from Roscrea to Cheshire, they would have left from Dublin. That would be the most direct route, and going from Cobh, then called Queenstown, would have been terribly indirect and left them at sea for several days rather than just several hours. Please note though, you are not going to find record of passengers between England and any of these ports. Both were part of the United Kingdom at that point, so travel then, even as now, was very free between the 2 countries. Cindy

I think you will find that most left from Cobh in Co Cork Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message -----

Hi, I am a new subscriber. My ancestors left Roscrea after the potato famine for Cheshire. Could anyone please tell me from what port they would have left for England. regards, Anne

On friday last a sergeant and two sub-constables were ordered to convey a prisoner, charged with murder, from Ballyporeen to Cahir, in the County of Tipperary. Whilst about two miles from their destination, between 4 and 5 O'Clock in the evening, a countryman overtook them and accosted them, offering the sergeant his pipe to smoke. The sergeant told him that they were not allowed to smoke while on duty, upon which the fellow rejoined, "Better men than any of your sort would not refuse it.". He then continued to walk after the police until, arriving at a turn of the road, he struck the sergeant unawares with a stone on the back part of his head and knocked him down. On the instant, and before his companions could stand on their defence, 14 or 15 fellows jumped out from the ditch, and assailed them with sticks, stones, and other weapons, nor did they desist until they were left in such a condition that their recovery is hopeless. The whitefeet after glutting their vengeance, carried off the rescued prisoner amidst savage yells of exultation, and ascended a neighbouring mountain, where they remained till the descending darkness enabled them to proceed to their respective homes. The danger of sending such small parties of police through disturbed districts has long been a subject of reproach to the authorities, but will now doubtless command attention. Mary

The disturbed districts of the northern part of the county are now nightly patrolled by the 17th lancers, accompanied by a party of the constabulary, whilst the neighbourhood of Puceawn, Toomavara, and the Silver-Mines are occupied by detachments of the 20th regiment. There have been Rockite notices, two attempts to murder, , in one of which a father and son were dragged out of bed, and beat in a most cruel and inhuman manner with sticks and firearms. A coroners inquest has been held on the bodies of two men named Gleeson and Tierney. It appears that the unhappy men had a dispute with three persons named Needham, relative to an encroachment on some grass land, words led to blows, and that finally Gleeson and Tierney were knocked down with stones by the Needhams, and only survived five or six hours afterwards; The jury returned a verdict in accordance with the evidence. The assassins have for the present eluded the hands of justice. The deceased were both comfortable farmers holding from 35-40 acres of land. One of the murderers was a brother in law of Tierney. Government have offered a reward of 100/. for the discovery of the murderers of Hayes, one of the late victims to the conspiracy. Mary

THE TIPPERARY BANK. The official assignee has lodged the following list of contributories in this bank at the date of its suspension, which will be settled before Master Murphy on a future day:- Directors-James Sadleir,M.P. Clon mel, 1838 shares of 50/. each; Wilson Kennedy, Clonmel 100 shares; Vincent Scully, M.P., 700 shares. Shareholders. (I am only transcribing the Tipperary ones as there are far to many. Mary) Simon Armstrong, Tipperary 71 shares John Bennett, Nenagh, 20 John Cleary, Gent, Golden 1 Patrick and William Cleary, Farmers, Golden. 104 William Condon, farmer, Tipperary 9 James Hammersly, Farmer, Tipperary 9 Mr. Leonard Keating, Cashel 10 Robert Keating, M.P. Cashel 700 Bernard M'Key, Merchant, Carrick-on-Suir, 50 Catherine Murnane, Tipperary 9 Ellen Quillinan, Tipperary 8 David Rafferty, Tipperary, farmer. 45 Patrick Ryan, Tipperary, farmer 4 Robert Sampson, Tipperary, farmer, 18 James Scully, Golden, 117 Richard Scully, Tipperary, Merchant. 8 Contributories who sold their shares within three years past. Patrick Connell, Tipperary, farmer 18 to James Sadleir. Edmund Rafferty, Tipperary, farmer, 13 to Sadleir Mr. Clement Sadleir, Carrick-on-Suir 70 to J. Sadleir James Keating Cashel, 88 to Sadleir. Mary

Unfortunate Duel. As it will be expected from us to give an account of an unhappy affair of this nature which has occurred on the bounds of this county and the county of Kilkenny,(We believe at a place called Kilcooly-Grange) near Johnstown, we lay before our readers the following extract of a letter which we received yesterday:- Killenaule Nov. 19th. 1822 Sir-I beg to report to you, that it has been agreed to fight a duel at Boulick, near New Birmingham, on Sunday the 10th inst. between Mr. John Shaw, attorney of Killenaule, and Mr. William Cooke, of Pointstown, in the same vicinity, but by an order from Capt. Wilson, chief magistrate, the parties were pursued and put to the rout by a detachment of police from Killenaule, under the direction of Mr. Morgan, chief constable, who followed them some 30 miles. On the day following, Mr. Morgan received information that the parties were to meet at the church of Frennor? (probably Fennor, Mary) near the bounds of of the counties of Tipperary and Kilkenny, early next morning, but he and the police having arrived at the appointed place before daylight appeared, the duellists were obliged to change their ground again, and proceeded to Ballynure, where they were for a third time prevented from fighting by the police, who kept a good look out for them. Here the business rested for a while, one of the parties having gone to Dublin on professional business, but it is understood that on Monday the 18th inst, they were to fight at Abbeyleix, in the Queen's county, through the exertions of Lord De Vesci they were bound over to keep the peace-when the aforesaid parties proceeded to the bounds of Tipperary and Kilkenny, on the said Monday, 18th, November where they fought, and Mr. Shaw (I regret to inform you) received a ball in his right temple, where it remains. Mr. Shaw is not yet dead, but no hopes are entertained of his recovery, though attended by Surgeons Hemphill, Going, Ryan and Kelly. The above letter from our correspondent does not inform us who were the seconds on this unfortunate occasion, but we understand that Mr. John Millet, was the second of Mr. Shaw, and Mr.N. Maher that of Mr. Cooke. At noon yesterday (tuesday) Mr. Shaw. who has been brought home to Kilennaule the preceding day in a carriage, was still living, though the ball is said to have perforated his brain. Mary

For anyone having a problem finding the O'Dwyer clan website, it is at http://www.dwyerclan.com/ Janet

I am searching for a Dunbar family from Tipperary, the mention of Nicolas Dunbar at the bottom of your email gives me hope. I wonder where he was living?????// Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Heaphy" <tipwex@eircom.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:10 AM Subject: [TIP] 14-1-1848 Tipperary > The Special Commission for Tipperary has been struck for Monday, the 24th > inst. to be holden at Clonmel for both ridings of the county, Subjoined is > a list of prisoners, with the nature of their offences. They are to be

I too had dealings with Father Meehan of New Inn/Knockgraffon and agree - what a gentle and lovely man he was and I was so sad to hear of his death. Eileen - Liverpool

I have ancestors from Killaloe and I'm pretty sure that there records were in the Clare Heritage Centre or whatever it is called. Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "JFW" <jowyn@adelphia.net> To: <IRL

Hi Ellen, I apologise for being so late answering your email. Work seems to get in the way of everything at the moment. Thank you for the offer to keep an eye out for John and Mary and I hope the film answers a lot omore questions than it raises. Regards Kevin Ellen wrote: >Hi Kevin, Perhaps my Darby could be a brother to Mary, perhaps Darby Jr.? I have a film ordered from the Family Search website (LDS), of Terryglass Parish, did you know their registers were filmed? I'll keep an eye out for Mary and John Young. Film was just ordered so it will be a few weeks, but I'll let you know. > Ellie > >Kevin Blackwell <kbl62326@bigpond.net.au> wrote: > Hi Ellen, > >I have very little information on the Hogan family. I believe Mary's >farther was Diarmaid (Darby) Hogan and her mother was Honore Cahahan. >There isn't any further information available to me at present. This >has become a major brick wall for me, but I live in hope. If I find >out any information that may assist I will forward it to you. > >Regards >Kevin > > > >Ellen wrote: > > > >>Hi, Would you know if Mary had a brother named Darby Hogan born about 1811 in Terryglass? Darby came to the USA and settled in upstate NY in Palmyra. >>Thanks, Ellie >> >>Kevin Blackwell wrote: >>I am looking for any information on John Young b. 1803 Tipperary and >>Mary Hogan b. 1807 Terryglass, Tipperary married 1831 Terryglass, >>Tipperary emigrated to Australia sometime after 1831. >>4 known daughters >>Mary Ann Young b. 1843 Camden NSW Australia m 1863 Binnalong NSW to >>John Ryan b. 1835 Co Tipperary >>Ellen G Young b.1846 Camden, NSW m Patrick McInerney b. 1832/1833 >>Ballycally, Co Clare, Ireland >>Anne Young b. 1847 Boorowa NSW m John McInerney b. 1844 Co Clare, Ireland >>Honora Young b. 1849 Boorowa NSW >> >>Thanks >>Kevin Blackwell >>Sydney NSW >> >> >>==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>To Unsubscribe: Send email to IRL-TIPPERARY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >>Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. >>For digest the address is IRL-TIPPERARY-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com >>[If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] >> >> >> >> >> >>--------------------------------- >>Yahoo! Photos >>Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. >> >> >>==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >> >> >> >> >>>>Watch those SUBJECT headings! When the topic changes - change the subject<< >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> >> > > >==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >IGP County Tipperary Message Board: >http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Photos > Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. > > >==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >IGP County Tipperary Message Board: >http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 > > > >

Hi List, Can anyone tell me of the experiences you've had with the RC church in Ballyporeen as far as the FR. and/or baptismal records being available? Thank you, Scott

The film available from the Familysearch site is Parochial registers of Kilbarron and Terryglass (Tipperary), 1827-1880 . Regards, Ellen --------------------------------- Relax. Yahoo! Mail virus scanning helps detect nasty viruses!

Killaloe comes into County Clare records Jude. Kaye www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: "JFW" <jowyn

If You enter the words bog burts in a search engine, there's some interesting reading on what's happening in Golden right now. Pat D ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRL-TIPPERARY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 4:00 AM Subject: IRL-TIPPERARY-D Digest V06 #47

Sorry Kaye, it says nothing about where he came from, except all the prisoners were from the North Riding. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "kaye vernon" <kjvernon@bigpond.net.au> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 10:12 PM Subject: Re: [TIP] 14-1-1848 Tipperary DUNBAR >I am searching for a Dunbar family from Tipperary, the mention of Nicolas >Dunbar at the bottom of your email gives me hope. > I wonder where he was living?????// > Kaye > www.bananatv.com/familytreechecklist.htm > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Heaphy" <tipwex@eircom.net> > To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 9:10 AM > Subject: [TIP] 14-1-1848 Tipperary > > >> The Special Commission for Tipperary has been struck for Monday, the 24th >> inst. to be holden at Clonmel for both ridings of the county, Subjoined >> is a list of prisoners, with the nature of their offences. They are to be > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > VISIT COUNTY TIPPERARY GENEALOGY: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/ > Contact the Listowner at: > mailto:IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com > > >

The Special Commission for Tipperary has been struck for Monday, the 24th inst. to be holden at Clonmel for both ridings of the county, Subjoined is a list of prisoners, with the nature of their offences. They are to be transmitted from Nenagh to Clonmel for trial. The numbers are but few in comparison to the many that are to be kept over for the ordinary assizes. But few they constitute the very worst characters in the Northern division of the County. John Daly, Edward Roughan, William Carthy, John Ryan (Garricus) and Edward Connors charged with and conspiring against and attempting to murder Mr. Bayley. Michael Connlly, John Connolly, James Connolly, Richard Connolly, and Mary Connolly (An old woman over 60 years of age) charged with the wilful murder of Edward Dillon of Kylemakill, near Thurles. John Gorman, Patrick Bourke, Thomas Sadleir, John Smith, Edward Hogan, and Daniel Tierney, charged with attacking the dwelling house of Patrick Ralph, of Coolbawn. John Mulcahy, appearing in arms at Ganmore Patrick Melampy, Edward Melampy, George Hewitt, Denis Brien, Patrick Hickey, Patrick Alyward, charged with firing at Edward Melampy. John Cleary, Thomas McGrath, and Thomas Brien, charged with robbing and attacking the dwelling of Patrick Ryan. John Dooley and Patrick Ryan, charged with robbing James Powell, on the highway of 40/. Martin kane (who has turned approver), Michael Whelan, Timothy Hogan, and Patrick Coonan, charged with assaulting with arms and robbing the dwelling house of Michael Haskett, near Borrisokane. John Looby, Thomas Looby, Denis Looby, and Richard Connolly, charged with robbery of firearms out of the house of Nicholas Dunbar. Mary