Hello Today I was at my local FHC and checked the death index of 1898-1899 for Ireland. My gr-grandmother died in Co Tipperary, and I believe I found her name listed in the index, however only a name, age, registrar's district, Volume and page number was listed. No one at the FHC could direct me to where I might find the "Volume" with more information. Can anyone help me? Thank you Molly --------------------------------- What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos

Janet at reojan@gmail.com writes: << the Ryan-Lanty's appear to be from "Drumbawn", "Turraheen", Clogher, Carrow, Donohill and Knocknakill. Maybe Pete can toake a look at the maps and see how these townlands might connect up. >> Janet, The Drumbaun was the only placename that seemed out-of-the-way (NE of Toomyvara), so I picked a Drumbane (which is usually a good substitute) in Moyaliff civil parish. All of your mentioned townlands are in the south riding (I still hate that term - you can't have a "riding" if there are only two) except for Knocknakill, which is the farthest north and Drumbane village/townland. The farthest south townland/village is Donohill, which is less than 5 miles N of Tipp. town. From there, to the farthest north Knocknakill is about 11 miles. The east to west spread of these places is about 9 miles. Not exactly a tight, cozy area..... but one which would be a reasonable area for a family over a number of generations, I'd guess (written by one who knows absolutely nothing about these things <gr>). - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Hello Janet, Michael, and List, Many thanks for your respective emails. I think I have the picture of where this, shall we say, unusual, Ryan Lanty/Lanty Ryan family were living in the 19th C. I shall follow up your site for the Celtic Male Names of Ireland, Michael, it's one I did not know of though I put in some time googling originally, looking for "Lanty". Which brings me to Jenny Williams's useful newspaper snippets and the one you provided from the Nenagh "Guardian" 1839. In front of me now is a largish extract from the "Tipperary Free Press" for 20 July 1842. In the Nenagh Quarter Sessions a Lanty Ryan is to be transported for 15 years for cow stealing. Co-incidentally, I have also what must surely be this same Lanty Ryan's convict indent sheet made out initially as he boarded his transport vessel, "Navarino". I have this document as I was some time ago seeking to distinguish between the many Ryans, one of whom might have been a great-great-grandfather of mine. This Lanty Ryan was not my forebear, as it turned out, but was transported with the man who was. I provide a little detail about Lanty now just in case somebody can benefit. Lanty was a very badly behaved young man; before being taken in the matter of the cow stealing he "was an old offender" having been three times in court already. He had stolen a cow before, had served one month in prison for assault, and, on another occasion, two months in prison for "neglect of work". Prisoners from Nenagh were moved to Clonmel, and, at an appropriate time, thence to Dublin. "Navarino" on her second voyage, sailed to Van Diemen's Land on 22.9.1842. Lanty was very lucky to get such a quick passage; another relative of mine leaving from Cork a few years later had waited for four years for a placement. Lanty enjoyed good health (Surgeon's Report). He was aged 23 at the time of boarding, was 5ft 10" tall, with an oval face, brown hair and hazel eyes and freckled arms. His trade was entered as "Herdsman or Pl'man". If Lanty had been a naughty boy before Tasmania, the "fun" was just beginning once he got there. It would be little exaggeration to say that he was hardly ever out of trouble. A sample of this "trouble"?: refused to have his hair cut; neglected his duty; sent a "false and malicious statement" to an official; made away with some property entrusted to his care; assaulted the servant of the man to whom he was assigned; took off his clothes and exposed his person on a public road..... On 2 July, 1857 Lanty was a free man once again. I was rather sorry not to be able to claim Lanty as "mine" but maybe somebody reading this will be able to do so. Lastly, to put him into the geographical frame suggested, Lanty said his "native place" was Tipperary (town).

Is there anyone researching Carew? I am looking for information about a John Carew, Shop Keeper, who had a daughter Margaret. She married in 1850 and I would assume John, her father was born around 1800 +/- a few years. Any info would be appreciated, Thanks, Karen

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Hi Julie, I went back into the main line Ryan genealogies for the 1500's and 1600's and a good deal of the 1700's and Lancelot or Lanty or anything like it does not appear, so it appears to be a name of probably the 1800's. In the 1800's the Ryan-Lanty's appear to be from "Drumbawn", "Turraheen", Clogher, Carrow, Donohill and Knocknakill. Maybe Pete can toake a look at the maps and see how these townlands might connect up. Janet On 2/20/06, Julie Robinson <juliejameson@crazycat45.demon.co.uk> wrote: > > Hello List, > > I think "Lanty" is a diminutive. But of what name? > > Can anyone help, please? > > Regards, > Julie > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Reminder! Remove (<snip>) as much of the Original Message as > possible when replying to a List Posting. Include just the part of > the original message important to your reply. > >

Hello Michael and List, Thanks for that information about the name being a surname diminutive rather than that of a Christian name. Yes, like you, I've come across "Lanty" but nowhere any indication proof positive that it derives from this or from that. The closest I came was in connecting it to a "Cornelius" Delaney. It could well be, for we have "Betty" and "Dick" as examples of other pet names that, to a non-English speaking person, would never suggest "Elizabeth" or "Richard". Another suggestion was that it is from the English "Lawrence" or our Irish equivalent "Lorcan". I'm still open to further possibilities - or better still, certainties - from other Listers. Meanwhile, I have to refer you all to a book I found on the internet. "A Humorous Tale" published in Philadelphia in 1850 by one Gregory Seaworthy, pseudonym of George Throop 1818-1896 has a "Lanty" Oliphant as a character. Though, speed reading through this tale, I failed to spot the man in question. Slainte, Julie

Julie, Some more on Lanty. All my Google searches turn up Lancelot in connection with Lanty. The geographical references below all seem to belong to a region between Upperchurch, Moyaliff and Clogher on the west, Templemore on the northeast and Thurles on the east. http://cygnus.homelinux.net:4242/writing/names/celtic-male.txt Celtic Male Names of Ireland Laughlin (LOFF-lin or LOCK-lin) "servant of St. Secundinus". Lanty, Lany, Leachlainn, Loughlin. Leachlainn (LEKH-len) "servant of St. Secundinus". Laughlin, Lochlainn, Lanty. http://www.hotkey.net.au/~jwilliams4/nnew394.htm The following index of names has been taken from the Nenagh Guardian, a newspaper published in Nenagh, Co Tipperary. Nenagh Guardian News 1839 Index 4 Co Tipperary Fogarty Lanty Bridwellkeeper Templemore/evidence/Dan BYRNE trial Fogarty Lanty /Main street Templemore/mentioned in trial BYRNE Fogarty Magrath Ballinlonty//Record Panel/North Riding.Nenagh Assizes Note townland named Ballinlonty - it is near Templemore http://www.ryans.org/Nicknames.htm Ryan Nicknames Terry's 1999 List Lanty Carrow Donohill Mary's 2004 List Lanty Knocknakill Templebeg Janet's List Lanty Turraheen Clogher http://home.austin.rr.com/mfmcgraw/McGraths%20of%20Truxton%2001.pdf P. 214-216 in "The McGrath Family of Truxton, New York" The Interesting Name of Lanty. Best Regards, Mike McGraw Austin, TX -----Original Message----- From: Julie Robinson [mailto:juliejameson@crazycat45.demon.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 6:06 PM To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TIP] "LANTY" RYAN Hello Michael and List, Thanks for that information about the name being a surname diminutive rather than that of a Christian name. Yes, like you, I've come across "Lanty" but nowhere any indication proof positive that it derives from this or from that. The closest I came was in connecting it to a "Cornelius" Delaney. It could well be, for we have "Betty" and "Dick" as examples of other pet names that, to a non-English speaking person, would never suggest "Elizabeth" or "Richard". Another suggestion was that it is from the English "Lawrence" or our Irish equivalent "Lorcan". I'm still open to further possibilities - or better still, certainties - from other Listers. Meanwhile, I have to refer you all to a book I found on the internet. "A Humorous Tale" published in Philadelphia in 1850 by one Gregory Seaworthy, pseudonym of George Throop 1818-1896 has a "Lanty" Oliphant as a character. Though, speed reading through this tale, I failed to spot the man in question. Slainte, Julie ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== Online Tipperary Census: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/census_ndx.htm

In reply to "Kennedy Mail" who wrote: -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: IRL-TIPPERARY-D-request@rootsweb.com X-Message: #1 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 03:01:38 -0800 To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Dalcassian Histories? I am in search any source materials, pertaining to the hisitories of Dal gCais clans within Tipperary. With a special interest in the Cantred of Ormond. ~~~~~~~~~~ I just discovered the site CELT: Corpus of Electronic Text "The Online Resource for Irish history, literature and politics. A Project of the History Department, University College Cork" located at http://www.ucc.ie/celt/. It is a searchable site, to some extent. Check it out and good luck! purplegenie

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Hello List, I think "Lanty" is a diminutive. But of what name? Can anyone help, please? Regards, Julie

Hi Judy, I was after Quillinan records so I have no other Fox information in this time frame. The baptism sponsors were Susan Yard and James Keogh, if that might help any. The only other thing I can suggest is to contact TFHR and ask for a one record search on the Fox you have the most information and see if they come up with something. Janet On 2/19/06, Judy Christopher <ajuntasc@suscom.net> wrote: > > I have 2 Margarets in the Fox line at a latter date in the 1800s in > Limerick. I think I would be looking for Patrick, Thomas, Robert or any > other male Fox in the "Vale." > The time frame would be 1700 to 1800. Judy Christopher > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Crawford" <reojan@gmail.com> > To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:55 PM > Subject: Re: [TIP] Re: Fox Family > > > > Hi Judy, There was a Fox family in Tipperary parish [so Golden Vale] in > > that > > time period. Margaret Fox had a child by Henry Quillinan in 1810; I > don't > > have the marriage record. The child was also named Margaret. There may > > have > > been more children but there might be a gap in the records at about this > > time. Limerick is just a few miles away. > > > > Janet > > > > > > On 2/19/06, Judy Christopher <ajuntasc@suscom.net> wrote: > >> > >> Searching for information about my Fox Family. They were in Tipperary > in > >> 1701 thru 1823. Moved to County Limerick. Belive they may have been > in > >> the > >> "Golden Vale" area. > >> Any help would be a blessing. Judy Christopher > >> > >> > >> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > >> IGP County Tipperary Message Board: > >> http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 > >> > >> > > > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > > To Unsubscribe: Send email to IRL-TIPPERARY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > > Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. > > For digest the address is IRL-TIPPERARY-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > > [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Reminder! Remove (<snip>) as much of the Original Message as > possible when replying to a List Posting. Include just the part of > the original message important to your reply. > >

Julie, I have seen Lanty as a nickname for Lancelot. However, I have seen Lanty quite a few times but never an actual Lancelot in any records. There are some Ryans in central Co. Tipperary that used Lanty as their family nickname. Best Regards, Mike McGraw Austin, TX -----Original Message----- From: Julie Robinson [mailto:juliejameson@crazycat45.demon.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 7:44 PM To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [TIP] LANTY RYAN Hello List, I think "Lanty" is a diminutive. But of what name? Can anyone help, please? Regards, Julie ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== Reminder! Remove (<snip>) as much of the Original Message as possible when replying to a List Posting. Include just the part of the original message important to your reply.

Hi Judy, There was a Fox family in Tipperary parish [so Golden Vale] in that time period. Margaret Fox had a child by Henry Quillinan in 1810; I don't have the marriage record. The child was also named Margaret. There may have been more children but there might be a gap in the records at about this time. Limerick is just a few miles away. Janet On 2/19/06, Judy Christopher <ajuntasc@suscom.net> wrote: > > Searching for information about my Fox Family. They were in Tipperary in > 1701 thru 1823. Moved to County Limerick. Belive they may have been in the > "Golden Vale" area. > Any help would be a blessing. Judy Christopher > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > IGP County Tipperary Message Board: > http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 > >

I have 2 Margarets in the Fox line at a latter date in the 1800s in Limerick. I think I would be looking for Patrick, Thomas, Robert or any other male Fox in the "Vale." The time frame would be 1700 to 1800. Judy Christopher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Crawford" <reojan@gmail.com> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:55 PM Subject: Re: [TIP] Re: Fox Family > Hi Judy, There was a Fox family in Tipperary parish [so Golden Vale] in > that > time period. Margaret Fox had a child by Henry Quillinan in 1810; I don't > have the marriage record. The child was also named Margaret. There may > have > been more children but there might be a gap in the records at about this > time. Limerick is just a few miles away. > > Janet > > > On 2/19/06, Judy Christopher <ajuntasc@suscom.net> wrote: >> >> Searching for information about my Fox Family. They were in Tipperary in >> 1701 thru 1823. Moved to County Limerick. Belive they may have been in >> the >> "Golden Vale" area. >> Any help would be a blessing. Judy Christopher >> >> >> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >> IGP County Tipperary Message Board: >> http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 >> >> > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > To Unsubscribe: Send email to IRL-TIPPERARY-L-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > Put ONLY the word unsubscribe in the message. > For digest the address is IRL-TIPPERARY-D-REQUEST@rootsweb.com > [If you take the LIST you can't unsub from the DIGEST & vice versa] > >

Searching for information about my Fox Family. They were in Tipperary in 1701 thru 1823. Moved to County Limerick. Belive they may have been in the "Golden Vale" area. Any help would be a blessing. Judy Christopher

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Dear List, The following people appear as sponsors for the baptisms of the children of Andrew Fogarty and Margaret Woodlock. They cover the period, 1834 to 1850. Would be interested in any connections or information. Michael Woodlock William Woodlock Mary Woodlock Patrick Woodlock Judith Woodlock Judy Cahill Julianne or July Ann ( no last name given) Martin Dwyer Winnifred Dwyer (appears to be wife of Martin) Catherine Fogarty Patrick Maher Ellen Carroll Alicia Ryan Regards, Carol Dale