Hello Karen Thank you for your interest and very kind offer. I do envy you your planned trip to Tipperary. I did find a huge amount of data about the Mansergh family on a "The Bomfords of Rahinstown" webpage but cannot get it up again. - this is a little "Maria was born at 3.45 pm on 24 April 1828 at Cheltenham. The sponsors at her baptism were Richard Bolton, Rosetta's brother-in-law (probably the one of Bective Abbey because the other one had not yet married into the family); Mrs. Bomford Rosetta's mother Maria who was at that time living at Cheltenham and so, no doubt, it was at her house that Maria Annette was born; and Lady Hesketh of Rufford Hall, Lancashire, Rosetta's sister Annette Maria after whom the baby was named. Maria was married at Tipperary on 26 September 1865 to Joseph Edmund Koostra Nadin was born in 1826 and was a Member of the Royal College of Surgeons in 1850. " As I a writing a book on my Nadin family any information is just great. Joseph was the grandson of Joseph Nadin, Deputy Constable of Manchester who was notorious for his role in the Peterloo Massacre. Joanne Thanks again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Bell" <JAKS-Corner@T-Online.de> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:06 PM Subject: Re: [TIP] Nadin and Mansergh Families of Tipperary Town > Hello Joanne, > I am travelling to Tipperary in early May and we have rented a > self-catering "villa" on >

Not too hard after 1864 as the county Registrar has the records usually. Some people didn't register, however. C of I marriages will be found in Cashel at the church. For RC marriages one has to use TFHR in Tipp Town before 1864. Janet On 3/9/06, Joanne and Ron Flack <bell.bird@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hello Janet > > Thank you - maybe if there were sons nd there are descendents they could > have moved to another County. Is it hard to find marriages in Tipperary. > > Thanks again > > Regards > Joanne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Crawford" <reojan@gmail.com> > To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 5:10 AM > Subject: Re: [TIP] Nadin and Mansergh Families of Tipperary Town > > > > Joanne, There are no Nadin's in the phone directory here, but if there > > were > > daughters and they married... > > > > Janet > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and > everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday (depending > on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary Time. This means the > time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York and Montreal; 3pm in > California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in Perth; 10am (Friday) in Sydney; 12 > noon (Friday) in Wellington. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm > >

Hello Listers I am new to the List and live in NSW Australia. I am researching the Nadin family, and Joseph Edmund Koostra Nadin, born Abt. 1826 Manchester, went to Ireland as a doctor. He had married to Emma Margaret Mitchell 1851 Manchester, but she evidently died as be married Maria Annette Mansergh 26 Sep 1865, Tipperary. He was in practice (1889 Bassett's Directory of Tipperary) Dr J E K Nadin Physicians Michael St Tipperary. There were children from the first marriage, and I think one of them may be of death of Emma Catherine Nadin, died 8 Sep 1865 Tipperary Town. There were children from the second marriage but have no details. Both Joseph and Maria died 1900, and are buried in the Churchyard Tipperary. Can anyone help me find out what happened to this family please. Kind regards Joanne Wyee NSW Aust

Joanne, There are no Nadin's in the phone directory here, but if there were daughters and they married... Janet On 3/9/06, Joanne and Ron Flack <bell.bird@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Hello Listers > > I am new to the List and live in NSW Australia. I am researching the > Nadin > family, and Joseph Edmund Koostra Nadin, born Abt. 1826 Manchester, went > to > Ireland as a doctor. He had married to Emma Margaret Mitchell 1851 > Manchester, but she evidently died as be married Maria Annette Mansergh 26 > Sep 1865, Tipperary. He was in practice (1889 Bassett's Directory of > Tipperary) Dr J E K Nadin Physicians Michael St Tipperary. > > There were children from the first marriage, and I think one of them may > be > of death of Emma Catherine Nadin, died 8 Sep 1865 Tipperary Town. There > were children from the second marriage but have no details. > > Both Joseph and Maria died 1900, and are buried in the Churchyard > Tipperary. > > Can anyone help me find out what happened to this family please. > > Kind regards > Joanne > Wyee NSW Aust > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > VISIT COUNTY TIPPERARY GENEALOGY: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/ > Contact the Listowner at: > mailto:IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com > >

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Hello Joanne, I am travelling to Tipperary in early May and we have rented a self-catering "villa" on the Mansergh Estate at Greenane, near Tipperary town. I have been corresponding with the owner's who still are Mansergh descendants and their estate is one of the few still owned by the same family after many hundred years. I do know they are interested in genealogy as I have passed on some bits regarding their family that I found while researching mine. They also mentioned they have many Burke's books and etc. at their home and that we are welcome to go through them when we are there. If you can wait until May I will find out what I can while we are there. I can also e-mail the family and asked if the name is familiar. Sincerely, Karen Bell "Joanne and Ron Flack" <mailto:bell.bird@bigpond.com> schrieb: > Hello Listers > > I am new to the List and live in NSW Australia. I am researching the Nadin > family, and Joseph Edmund Koostra Nadin, born Abt. 1826 Manchester, went to > Ireland as a doctor. He had married to Emma Margaret Mitchell 1851 > Manchester, but she evidently died as be married Maria Annette Mansergh 26 > Sep 1865, Tipperary. He was in practice (1889 Bassett's Directory of > Tipperary) Dr J E K Nadin Physicians Michael St Tipperary. > > There were children from the first marriage, and I think one of them may be > of death of Emma Catherine Nadin, died 8 Sep 1865 Tipperary Town. There > were children from the second marriage but have no details. > > Both Joseph and Maria died 1900, and are buried in the Churchyard > Tipperary. > > Can anyone help me find out what happened to this family please. > > Kind regards > Joanne > Wyee NSW Aust > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > VISIT COUNTY TIPPERARY GENEALOGY: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/ > Contact the Listowner at: > mailto:IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com > > > __________ NOD32 1.1435 (20060308) Information __________ > > Diese E-Mail wurde vom NOD32 antivirus system geprüft > http://www.nod32.com > > >

They're putting our rent up soon, so we have to go hunting for a new place to live. So I will be unsubscribing, perhaps for a few months. Thanks to all listers who have made such interesting conversations and posed some wonderful questions and answers. For anyone who may have need to contact me, I should be available on this address, except for the time we are actually moving ("when" we actually find somewhere *cheap* to live!) Regards to all, and keep up the conversations, Wynnette Ford Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/273 - Release Date: 3/2/06

Hi Wynette, please contact me off line lmcd96@bigpond.com Laraine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graeme Ford" <grayford@dodo.com.au> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 1:12 PM Subject: [TIP] Thanks to all, but goodbye for now, unsubscribing > They're putting our rent up soon, so we have to go hunting for a new place > to live. > > So I will be unsubscribing, perhaps for a few months. > > Thanks to all listers who have made such interesting conversations and > posed > some wonderful questions and answers. > > For anyone who may have need to contact me, I should be available on this > address, except for the time we are actually moving ("when" we actually > find > somewhere *cheap* to live!) > > Regards to all, and keep up the conversations, > > Wynnette Ford > Gold Coast, Queensland, Australia. > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.1/273 - Release Date: 3/2/06 > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > VISIT COUNTY TIPPERARY GENEALOGY: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/ > Contact the Listowner at: > mailto:IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com >

Hi Listers, I have an ancestor David SMITH who died in Ennis Town, County Clare in 1878. His obituary in the newspaper lists many who attended his funeral. Two people who interest me are Henry TULLOCH/TULLOCK who is named as the step-father of David SMITH and John MCNAY who is named as the uncle of David SMITH. After searching in some directories I have found the following. As David SMITH was also a Grocer and Spirit and Wine Dealer in Ennis Town, I think it is very likely these are the relations. Also David SMITH was originally in partnership as a Wine and Spirit Dealer with a James MACNAY IN 1856 Ennis Town, County Clare. 1856 - Slater's Directory of Ireland - Tipperary Section MACNEY John 49 West Main St Grocer MACNEY John 49 West Main St Spirit & Wine Dealer 1867 Henry & Coghlan's General Directory of Cork & Munster Grocers & Spirit Dealers TULLOCH Henry - Main Street, Tipperary 1881 - Slater's Commercial Dirctory of Ireland Grocers & Spirit Dealers TULLOCH Henry - 49 West Main Street, Tipperary Is anyone else looking at these names or have any further information on these people? Regards Jan Vernon Sydney, Australia 1

St Mary's Tipperary. BAPTS: Sep 7th 1862. Thomas to Francis Gahagan & Catherine Pike. Witnessed by Michael Gray & Honor Barnett. Sep 12th 1861. John to Francis Geoghegan & Catherine Pike. Witnessed by illegible? jo ------------------------------------- Volume 14 of my Newsletter is back on www.btinternet.com/~finty/ See if you can identify the mystery guests ------------------------------------------

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I believe that I have tracked my g-g-grandfather, Matthew Savage Todd, to Rossacrow in the parish of Donohill. I know he was a schoolteacher and Griffiths shows Matthew Todd living next to the school in Rossacrow so it seems to be a good match. Griffiths also shows Thomas Todd living in the nearby townland of Clashnacrony. The children of Matthew Todd (Frederick, Sophia, Robert) born (1844, 1851, 1857) all moved to England but, so far as I know, Matthew stayed in Ireland. Just wondered if this rings any bells with anyone on the list. Andrew Patterson Buckinghamshire, UK

Jude, I was referring to the pronunciation of the name "Aodh", which is the Gaelic for the name "Hugh". However, you are right. The name "Hugh" is pronounced "Hew" in Munster and "Kew" in Ulster. -----Original Message----- From: JFW [mailto:jowyn@adelphia.net] Sent: 04 February 2006 19:54 To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TIP] Hugh - Irish name variations How interesting! I have often wondered about this name. It is in my family -- both Ulster and Munster. In Ulster, I hear it pronounced like "Kew" or "Hew" and have never heard the "i" as in "see" pronunciation. Wherever did the "ew" sound come from? Anglicization, I suppose. And how in the world did the "k" sound arise? (McHugh??) "Hew" is the pronunciation used by my ggrandfather (Hugh from Munster), according to the family. Cheers, Jude ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel Healy" <jnhealy@eircom.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 11:11 AM Subject: RE: [TIP] Hugh - Irish name variations > Karen, > Aodh is the Gaelic version of Hugh. Phonetically it is pronounced > ei (as in paid) in Munster Irish and i: (as in see) in Ulster. > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday (depending on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary Time. This means the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York and Montreal; 3pm in California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in Perth; 10am (Friday) in Sydney; 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm

To list-Looking fo MARTIN -Clare-Braintree-1800s DEATH-Halstead-1850s SPENCER -Lamarsh-1800s Regards James -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.1.0/269 - Release Date: 24/02/2006

After reading everyone's Carroll queries and assuming I had no Carrolls in the family suddenly I stumble across 2 Carroll families that seem to be connected. Now I need some help. 1) Mary Perry, widow of Clonmel married John CARROL of Clonmel & Cahir at St. Paul's, Cahir in 1826. Her maiden name appears to be Hackett and she married her 1st husband John Perry Esq. of Newcastle in 1806. 2) Florence CARROLL of Littlefield, who I believe married a Moylan. Would anyone have information regarding these people? Thanks, Karen

I remember Rosemary well, and am sorry to hear of her death. My sympathy to her family. Terry in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <filidh@carolina.rr.com> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 10:02 PM Subject: [TIP] *sad news - Rosemary R. Eisenhauer >I received this obituary for longtime list member Rosemary Eisenhauer from >Janet Lyons. I > know many who "knew" her on this list, myself included, will miss her. > > Christina > >

I received this obituary for longtime list member Rosemary Eisenhauer from Janet Lyons. I know many who "knew" her on this list, myself included, will miss her. Christina ........................................ Rosemary R. Eisenhauer, 73, English professor Published February 22, 2006 Rosemary R. Eisenhauer, a retired college English professor and former Columbia resident, died of kidney failure Feb. 15 at Atlantic General Hospital in Berlin. She was 73. She was born Rosemary Rattigan in Red Bank, N.J., and raised in Union Beach, N.J. In 1949, she began her college studies at the University of Maryland, College Park, but dropped out a year later when she married Louis Charles Eisenhauer. After her youngest child began attending school, she resumed her education and earned a bachelor's degree in English from the University of Maryland, Baltimore County in 1974. Two years later, she earned a master's in English from the University of Maryland, College Park, followed by a doctorate in English in 1982. Dr. Eisenhauer taught English literature at the University of Baltimore, Catonsville Community College and UMBC, where she retired in the early 1990s. Her husband, who taught English at Catonsville, died in 1987. She was a member of the Howard County League of Women Voters before moving to Ocean Pines in 1998. She enjoyed writing poetry and researching her family's genealogy. A Mass of Christian burial will be offered at 10 a.m. Friday at Sacred Heart Roman Catholic Church, on Sacred Heart Lane in Glyndon. Surviving are a son, Louis Andrew Eisenhauer of Washington; two daughters, Tara E. Ebersole of Catonsville and Rachel L. Eisenhauer of Annapolis; 12 grandchildren; and two great-grandchildren. Another daughter, Sara E. Mathis, died in 2003. Copyright © 2006, The Baltimore Sun

Rosemary R was very helpful and will be missed. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <filidh@carolina.rr.com> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2006 7:02 PM Subject: [TIP] *sad news - Rosemary R. Eisenhauer >I received this obituary for longtime list member Rosemary Eisenhauer from >Janet Lyons. I > know many who "knew" her on this list, myself included, will miss her. > > Christina > > ........................................ > Rosemary R. Eisenhauer, 73, English professor > > > Published February 22, 2006 > > Rosemary R. Eisenhauer, a retired college English professor and former > Columbia resident, > died of kidney failure Feb. 15 at Atlantic General Hospital in Berlin. She > was 73. > She was born Rosemary Rattigan in Red Bank, N.J., and raised in Union > Beach, N.J. In 1949, > she began her college studies at the University of Maryland, College Park, > but dropped out > a year later when she married Louis Charles Eisenhauer. > > After her youngest child began attending school, she resumed her education > and earned a > bachelor's degree in English from the University of Maryland, Baltimore > County in 1974. > Two years later, she earned a master's in English from the University of > Maryland, College > Park, followed by a doctorate in English in 1982. > > Dr. Eisenhauer taught English literature at the University of Baltimore, > Catonsville > Community College and UMBC, where she retired in the early 1990s. Her > husband, who taught > English at Catonsville, died in 1987. > > She was a member of the Howard County League of Women Voters before moving > to Ocean Pines > in 1998. > > She enjoyed writing poetry and researching her family's genealogy. > > A Mass of Christian burial will be offered at 10 a.m. Friday at Sacred > Heart Roman > Catholic Church, on Sacred Heart Lane in Glyndon. > > Surviving are a son, Louis Andrew Eisenhauer of Washington; two daughters, > Tara E. > Ebersole of Catonsville and Rachel L. Eisenhauer of Annapolis; 12 > grandchildren; and two > great-grandchildren. Another daughter, Sara E. Mathis, died in 2003. > > Copyright © 2006, The Baltimore Sun > > > > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Reminder! Remove (<snip>) as much of the Original Message as > possible when replying to a List Posting. Include just the part of > the original message important to your reply. > >

Molly, Send me the volume and page and I will look. Chris On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 11:49:25 -0800 (PST), Molly Pats wrote: > Hello > Today I was at my local FHC and checked the death index of 1898- > 1899 for Ireland. My gr-grandmother died in Co Tipperary, and I > believe I found her name listed in the index, however only a name, > age, registrar's district, Volume and page number was listed. No > one at the FHC could direct me to where I might find the "Volume" > with more information. > Can anyone help me? > Thank you > Molly > > > --------------------------------- > > What are the most popular cars? Find out at Yahoo! Autos > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and > everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday > (depending on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary > Time. This means the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York > and Montreal; 3pm in California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in > Perth; 10am (Friday) in Sydney; 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm

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