What about Carroll's? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Bell" <jessandrak@netscape.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 4:56 AM Subject: [TIP] Gravestone pictures for Fitzgerald, Ryall & Toppin & Sparrow & Norris > > Hi everyone, > I just returned from a week in cold and rainy Tipperary and have some > photos of gravestones in case anyone is interested. > Please contact me offline and I will be happy to send you a copy. > > I have a Fitzgerald stone from Buolick graveyard with a John who died at > age 80 in 1874 along with wife Catherine and an Edmond, Thomas, Ellen, > James, Timothy and Johanna. > > I also have a Toppin/Ryall stone from Magorban graveyard with Thomas > Toppin & Richard Ryall and other Ryalls. > > From Ballinure Graveyard I have William & Eliza Norris - erected by their > daughter Mary Ann Perry, as well as Thomas Perry and wife Maria Sparrow. > > I have more pictures that need to be developed and will pass on any other > gravestones info when I get them back. > > Karen > > PS. I also found a "backyard" graveyard full of SPARROWS and HAYDENS if > anyone is researching them. > >> > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > IGP County Tipperary Message Board: > http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 > >

Something tells me public transport was a lot more efficient 186 years ago than it is today. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Heaphy" <tipwex@eircom.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:20 AM Subject: [TIP] Travel Timetable 1824 > Thurles. From Pigots Directory. 1824 > > > > Cars arriving and leaving Thurles. > > > > Waterford, a car, from the Star and Garter, by Cashel, Cahir, Carrick-on > Suir, and Clonmel every morning at five. > > > > Waterford, a car, from Quinlan's Hotel, by Cashel, Cahir, Carrick-on-Suir, > and Clonmel, every morning at nine and returns in the evening at 7'30. > > > > Kilkenny, a car, from the Stay and Garter, every day at two, through > Urlingford, Johnstown, and Freshford, and returns in the morning at > Eleven. > > > > Roscrea, a Mail car, through Templemore, every afternoon, at half past > three and returns in the morning at eleven, this convoyance meets the > Dublin Car from M. O'Dwyers. > > > > Roscrea, a car, on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, at ten in the morning > and returns on alternate days. > > > > Mary > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Online Tipperary Census: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/census_ndx.htm > > >

Does anyone know about that Quinlan's Hotel? Funnily, I saw Gangs of New York last weekend, and on the side of a building at South St Seaport it said "Quinlan's Hotel." Coincidence I'm sure, but seeing another one this morning prompted me to ask. On May 9, 2006, at 12:06 PM, PeterLangley wrote: > Something tells me public transport was a lot more efficient 186 > years ago than it is today. > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Heaphy" <tipwex@eircom.net> > To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2006 10:20 AM > Subject: [TIP] Travel Timetable 1824 > > >> Thurles. From Pigots Directory. 1824 >> >> >> >> Cars arriving and leaving Thurles. >> >> >> >> Waterford, a car, from the Star and Garter, by Cashel, Cahir, >> Carrick-on Suir, and Clonmel every morning at five. >> >> >> >> Waterford, a car, from Quinlan's Hotel, by Cashel, Cahir, Carrick- >> on-Suir, and Clonmel, every morning at nine and returns in the >> evening at 7'30. >> >> >> >> Kilkenny, a car, from the Stay and Garter, every day at two, >> through Urlingford, Johnstown, and Freshford, and returns in the >> morning at Eleven. >> >> >> >> Roscrea, a Mail car, through Templemore, every afternoon, at half >> past three and returns in the morning at eleven, this convoyance >> meets the Dublin Car from M. O'Dwyers. >> >> >> >> Roscrea, a car, on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, at ten in the >> morning and returns on alternate days. >> >> >> >> Mary >> >> >> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >> Online Tipperary Census: >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/census_ndx.htm >> >> > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and > everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday > (depending on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary > Time. This means the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York > and Montreal; 3pm in California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in > Perth; 10am (Friday) in Sydney; 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm

I want to thank everyone who tried to help with my query. I have now posted my application as after trying for 2 days I was unsuccessful Julie

Thurles. From Pigots Directory. 1824 Cars arriving and leaving Thurles. Waterford, a car, from the Star and Garter, by Cashel, Cahir, Carrick-on Suir, and Clonmel every morning at five. Waterford, a car, from Quinlan's Hotel, by Cashel, Cahir, Carrick-on-Suir, and Clonmel, every morning at nine and returns in the evening at 7'30. Kilkenny, a car, from the Stay and Garter, every day at two, through Urlingford, Johnstown, and Freshford, and returns in the morning at Eleven. Roscrea, a Mail car, through Templemore, every afternoon, at half past three and returns in the morning at eleven, this convoyance meets the Dublin Car from M. O'Dwyers. Roscrea, a car, on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, at ten in the morning and returns on alternate days. Mary

Charles Bianconi, an Italian, in July 1815 started a car for conveying passengers from Clonmel to Cahir, and soon after from Tipperary to Limerick. At the end of the same year similar cars were started to Cashel and Thurles, and from Clonmel to Carrick-on-Suir and Waterford. He obtained a supply of Horses, intended for the army, which were thrown on the market by the peace of 1815. They were bought at prices between 10 and 15 pounds. One of these horses drew a car with 6 passengers with ease at the rate of 7 miles per hour. Encouraged by his success, Bianconi extended, opening lines in the most remote districts, as from Longford to Ballina and Belmullet, from Athlone to Galway and Cliften, from Limerick to Tralee and Cahirciveen. By this time it was necessary to put two horses to a car, but the size of the cars were enlarged, so as to hold 8 passengers instead of 6. Gradually the two-wheeled cars were replaced by four-wheeled cars, drawn by two, three or four horses, according to the traffic on the several roads. In 1843, Bianconi had on his establishment a hundred vehicles, including mail coaches and cars of all sizes, capable of carrying 4 to 20 passengers each, and travelling 8 or 9 miles an hour, at the low rate of a penny farthing a mile, going over 3800 miles daily and calling at 140 stations. The growth of the Railway system affected Bianconi's trade but he still had 67 cars in use travelling daily 4240 miles, extending over 22 counties and requiring the use of 900 horses. Each of these stations had from 1 groom to 6, and sometimes 8, and there were 100 drivers for the 1300 horses. The drivers were paid according to the line ,the least pay given to those on well-frequented lines, where there was more certainty of gratuties from travellers. On the whole they were a well-conducted trustworthy staff. The average feed for the horses was three to four thousand tons of hay annually, and 30 to 40 thousand barrels of oats, all of which were purchased in their respective localities. Mary

Subject: Travel in Ireland 1800's >Thank you for this item, Mary. My Mary Maguire in Miltown Malbay were entered in a town survery in the late 1800s as "car owner". Now I understand that a little better. Pat D

The General Register's Office is no longer housed in Dublin, so please don't attach a 1 to the number! If you want to fax the GRO from the US or Canada, dial 011-353-90-663-2999. Cindy

When calling from the US, we do not use the zero, so it would be 011-353-1-etc. ----- Original Message ----- From: Janet Crawford <reojan@gmail.com> Date: Monday, May 8, 2006 11:18 am Subject: Re: [TIP] Fax to GRO > Julie, 011 is the international code to use when calling out from > the US. > Then 353 for Ireland. Then either 1 or 01 for Dublin and then the > number. > Janet > > > On 5/8/06, Juliegydglais@aol.com <Juliegydglais@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Hi Peter. > > I have just tried it and guess what it does not work. > > I have been at this since early this morning I am just going to > post it. > > > > Thanks anyway. > > Julie > > > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > > VISIT COUNTY TIPPERARY GENEALOGY: > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/ > > Contact the Listowner at: > > mailto:IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com > > > > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and > everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday > (depending on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary > Time. This means the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York > and Montreal; 3pm in California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in > Perth; 10am (Friday) in Sydney; 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm > >

Julie, 011 is the international code to use when calling out from the US. Then 353 for Ireland. Then either 1 or 01 for Dublin and then the number. Janet On 5/8/06, Juliegydglais@aol.com <Juliegydglais@aol.com> wrote: > > Hi Peter. > I have just tried it and guess what it does not work. > I have been at this since early this morning I am just going to post it. > > Thanks anyway. > Julie > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > VISIT COUNTY TIPPERARY GENEALOGY: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/ > Contact the Listowner at: > mailto:IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Hi Jeff, I believe our lines may tie in. I have a stash of old family documents found in an attic of my 2nd cousin with information that I have been chasing around the past year attempting to verify. Patrick O'Meara and Catherine (Kitty) Gleeson had William, John, 2 daughters whose names weren't mentioned, then Mary Ann and John Michael. Kitty's sister Bridget Gleeson was my gggrandmother, or as near as I can ascertain from Gleeson family that I have connected with still living in Limerick. This Gleeson family was originally from Tipperary as well, centering around Nenagh. Patrick was in the British military and landed in Ottowa with quite a bit of family in the vicinity. In Limerick, the Gleeson girls had a business of sewing "Limerick Lace" and making habits for nuns. The girls remained lifelong friends with many of the nuns of the Convent of Mercy in Limerick. Many of the Convent were recruited from the Nenagh area into the Limerick chapter, then dispersed in the middle to late 1880's to the US, first in Alabama via New Orleans. I believe that one of the O'Mara girls was in this order in Alabama. Patrick O'Meara had brothers named Denis, John and William; and sisters Bridget and Mary. Bridget married Michael Murphy, and became butchers in Limerick, descendants of this line are still around as well. Patrick's parents were William O'Mara and Katie Ryan. Other strongly associated surnames are Cleary, Howard, Quigley and McCormack. The information from the family chart was posted kindly to the Co Tip Rootsweb Mailing List and can be found in the March Archives for 2005. I have acquired a bit more information since that time. Thanks, Jean

I'm not sure of their number, but I notice the code for Dublin which is 1 is missing Rule of thumb on phone numbers First 0 gets you out of your code area Second 0 gets you out of your country 353 is the code for Ireland Code for Dublin is 01 but since you are now not in a code area you just dial 1 Then the number. So try 00 353 1 906632988 Good luck Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <Juliegydglais@aol.com> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 12:01 PM Subject: [TIP] Fax to GRO > Hi > I am trying to fax a birth application form to the GRO in Dublin, can > anyone > help with the number > The code I think is 00353 and the number is 906632988, is this correct as > my > fax will no go through. > > Many thanks > Julie > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Reminder! Remove (<snip>) as much of the Original Message as > possible when replying to a List Posting. Include just the part of > the original message important to your reply. > > >

Hi Peter. I have just tried it and guess what it does not work. I have been at this since early this morning I am just going to post it. Thanks anyway. Julie

Jeff, The O'Meara originated in the area Toomyvara (tribal land of the O'Meara sept), just east of Nenagh in co. Tipperary. Mike Stapleton Irish Branch Stapleton Researcher ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Legault" <jeff.legault@rogers.com> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 9:03 PM Subject: Re: [TIP] Patrick O'Meara and Catherine Gleeson - Tipperary to Ottawa, Canada > Just a correction these are my Great, Great, Grandparents or second great > grandparents as the family tree programs like to refer to them. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Legault" <jeff.legault@rogers.com> > To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 8:55 PM > Subject: [TIP] Patrick O'Meara and Catherine Gleeson - Tipperary to > Ottawa, Canada > > >> Looking for Tipperary origins of this family for the O'Mearas at least or >> any details that can be provided. Have been unable to trace where they >> arrived in Canada although it's likely through Montreal. >> >> These are my Great Grandparents >> >> More details on my family tree can be viewed here: >> >> http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/e/g/Jeff-N-Legault/ >> >> Husband: Patrick O'Meara >> Born: 1814 in: Tipperary, Ireland >> Married: 25 Oct 1853 in: Notre-Dame Basilica, Ottawa, Ontario >> Died: 19 Dec 1893 in: Ottawa, Ontario >> >> Wife: Catherine Gleeson >> Born: 1824 in: Limerick, Ireland >> Died: 04 Apr 1888 in: Limerick, Ireland >> >> CHILDREN >> >> 1 Name: William O'Meara >> Born: 15 May 1855 in: Ottawa, Ontario >> Died: 05 Feb 1919 in: Ottawa, Ontario >> Burial: 05 Feb 1919 in: Ottawa, Ontario >> Married: 06 Nov 1876 in: Notre-Dame Basilica, Ottawa, Ontario >> Spouse: Jennifer Jane Taylor >> >> 2 Name: John Patrick O'Meara >> Born: 1856 in: Ottawa, Ontario >> Died: in: Ottawa, Ontario >> >> 3 Name: John O'Meara >> Born: 1859 >> Died: 08 Jul 1930 in: Ottawa, ON >> >> 4 Name: Mary Anne O'Meara >> Born: 1861 >> >> 5 Name: Catherine O'Meara >> Born: 1866 >> >> Also be sure to check out my Whelan-Mooney roots at this site I manage >> for the group: >> >> http://www.stcolumban-irish.com/ >> -- >> Jeff Legault >> Ottawa, Ontario >> >> >> ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>>>Watch those SUBJECT headings! When the topic changes - change the >>>>subject<< >> >> > > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Online Tipperary Census: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/census_ndx.htm >

Hi I am trying to fax a birth application form to the GRO in Dublin, can anyone help with the number The code I think is 00353 and the number is 906632988, is this correct as my fax will no go through. Many thanks Julie

Gary, Do you have a Margaret Treacy born about 1840? Or a Mary Treacy? Thanks, Mary Beth -----Original Message----- From: Gary Barnes [mailto:familyresearcher77@yahoo.com] Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 7:30 PM To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [TIP] Maher / Meagher and Tracy / Treacy Mary Beth Baker wrote: >I am new to the Tipperary mailing list and am wondering if someone tell me >how to go about my search for my Maher / Meagher and Tracy / Treacy >ancestors from Mullinahone, Tipperary. > > > >I want to find the ancestors of my great-grandparents James Maher (Meagher) >and Mararet Tracey (Treacy) . Is there an on-line data base that I can >access? Or can I write for a copy of the marriage certificate? > > > >I have a document from the 1950's that my Aunt obtained from Michael >Holloway, Parish Priest in Oakfield, Mullinahone, Thurles, County Tipperary >(July 1952). This shows my ancestors as follows from the "registers of >Mullinahone": > > > >Marriage Register: James Maher married Margaret Tracey at Mullinahone, >February 12, 1861. Present: James Maher, Mary Treacy, James Crotty. > > > >Children of James Maher and Margaret Tracey from Baptism Registers: > >Feb 18 1865 James and Anne (twins) died young as names were used again > >Jan 28 1866 William (did not marry and is many years dead) > >Dec 1 1867 James (married Elizabeth Broderick at Parish Church Callen 1911 >of Rev. P. Corrigan (I have information on the Broderick sisters, including >married names and addresses from 1952). > >Feb 14 1869 Anne (Sponsors Daniel Meagher and Catherine McGrath ((The >baptizing priest's initials follow "T.H." and the address of parents >"Mullinahone". This is the baptizing entry of my grandmother.) > > Rumor has it that my grandmother was born "on the night of the >big wind". Anne emigrated to the United States and married and raised her >family there. > >Apr 21 1872 George.same parents. Died in infancy. > >? Edward ( didn't marry) (Priest did not see him readily >in the records) > > > > > >Thanks in advance for any suggestions about where to start. > >Mary Beth Baker > >USA > > > > >I have Treacy's in Templemore, Clonmore and Kiltillane in Co. Tipp >, not many of them. > > GB >==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >Online Tipperary Census: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/census_ndx.htm > > > >

A Mr. Finucane was school master for a number of years at the Ray School, County Donegal near Letterkenny. Believe he is buried in the Ray Cemetery. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <danialw@execulink.com> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 1:32 PM Subject: [TIP] Haskett/Finucane > David Haskett married Mary Finucane in 1812 in County Clare and then moved > to County Tipperary. They had several children but I have never been able > to find baptisms for them. David remarried Johanna Commons in 1845 and > had six more children all whose baptisms I have found. Any help would be > appreciated. > > Dan Walker > > > ---------------------------- > Powered by Execulink Webmail > http://www.execulink.com/ > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > VISIT COUNTY TIPPERARY GENEALOGY: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/ > Contact the Listowner at: > mailto:IRL-TIPPERARY-admin@rootsweb.com > > >

Just a correction these are my Great, Great, Grandparents or second great grandparents as the family tree programs like to refer to them. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Legault" <jeff.legault@rogers.com> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 8:55 PM Subject: [TIP] Patrick O'Meara and Catherine Gleeson - Tipperary to Ottawa, Canada > Looking for Tipperary origins of this family for the O'Mearas at least or > any details that can be provided. Have been unable to trace where they > arrived in Canada although it's likely through Montreal. > > These are my Great Grandparents > > More details on my family tree can be viewed here: > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/e/g/Jeff-N-Legault/ > > Husband: Patrick O'Meara > Born: 1814 in: Tipperary, Ireland > Married: 25 Oct 1853 in: Notre-Dame Basilica, Ottawa, Ontario > Died: 19 Dec 1893 in: Ottawa, Ontario > > Wife: Catherine Gleeson > Born: 1824 in: Limerick, Ireland > Died: 04 Apr 1888 in: Limerick, Ireland > > CHILDREN > > 1 Name: William O'Meara > Born: 15 May 1855 in: Ottawa, Ontario > Died: 05 Feb 1919 in: Ottawa, Ontario > Burial: 05 Feb 1919 in: Ottawa, Ontario > Married: 06 Nov 1876 in: Notre-Dame Basilica, Ottawa, Ontario > Spouse: Jennifer Jane Taylor > > 2 Name: John Patrick O'Meara > Born: 1856 in: Ottawa, Ontario > Died: in: Ottawa, Ontario > > 3 Name: John O'Meara > Born: 1859 > Died: 08 Jul 1930 in: Ottawa, ON > > 4 Name: Mary Anne O'Meara > Born: 1861 > > 5 Name: Catherine O'Meara > Born: 1866 > > Also be sure to check out my Whelan-Mooney roots at this site I manage for > the group: > > http://www.stcolumban-irish.com/ > -- > Jeff Legault > Ottawa, Ontario > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >>>Watch those SUBJECT headings! When the topic changes - change the >>>subject<< > >

Looking for Tipperary origins of this family for the O'Mearas at least or any details that can be provided. Have been unable to trace where they arrived in Canada although it's likely through Montreal. These are my Great Grandparents More details on my family tree can be viewed here: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/l/e/g/Jeff-N-Legault/ Husband: Patrick O'Meara Born: 1814 in: Tipperary, Ireland Married: 25 Oct 1853 in: Notre-Dame Basilica, Ottawa, Ontario Died: 19 Dec 1893 in: Ottawa, Ontario Wife: Catherine Gleeson Born: 1824 in: Limerick, Ireland Died: 04 Apr 1888 in: Limerick, Ireland CHILDREN 1 Name: William O'Meara Born: 15 May 1855 in: Ottawa, Ontario Died: 05 Feb 1919 in: Ottawa, Ontario Burial: 05 Feb 1919 in: Ottawa, Ontario Married: 06 Nov 1876 in: Notre-Dame Basilica, Ottawa, Ontario Spouse: Jennifer Jane Taylor 2 Name: John Patrick O'Meara Born: 1856 in: Ottawa, Ontario Died: in: Ottawa, Ontario 3 Name: John O'Meara Born: 1859 Died: 08 Jul 1930 in: Ottawa, ON 4 Name: Mary Anne O'Meara Born: 1861 5 Name: Catherine O'Meara Born: 1866 Also be sure to check out my Whelan-Mooney roots at this site I manage for the group: http://www.stcolumban-irish.com/ -- Jeff Legault Ottawa, Ontario

Mary Beth Baker wrote: >I am new to the Tipperary mailing list and am wondering if someone tell me >how to go about my search for my Maher / Meagher and Tracy / Treacy >ancestors from Mullinahone, Tipperary. > > > >I want to find the ancestors of my great-grandparents James Maher (Meagher) >and Mararet Tracey (Treacy) . Is there an on-line data base that I can >access? Or can I write for a copy of the marriage certificate? > > > >I have a document from the 1950's that my Aunt obtained from Michael >Holloway, Parish Priest in Oakfield, Mullinahone, Thurles, County Tipperary >(July 1952). This shows my ancestors as follows from the "registers of >Mullinahone": > > > >Marriage Register: James Maher married Margaret Tracey at Mullinahone, >February 12, 1861. Present: James Maher, Mary Treacy, James Crotty. > > > >Children of James Maher and Margaret Tracey from Baptism Registers: > >Feb 18 1865 James and Anne (twins) died young as names were used again > >Jan 28 1866 William (did not marry and is many years dead) > >Dec 1 1867 James (married Elizabeth Broderick at Parish Church Callen 1911 >of Rev. P. Corrigan (I have information on the Broderick sisters, including >married names and addresses from 1952). > >Feb 14 1869 Anne (Sponsors Daniel Meagher and Catherine McGrath ((The >baptizing priest's initials follow "T.H." and the address of parents >"Mullinahone". This is the baptizing entry of my grandmother.) > > Rumor has it that my grandmother was born "on the night of the >big wind". Anne emigrated to the United States and married and raised her >family there. > >Apr 21 1872 George.same parents. Died in infancy. > >? Edward ( didn't marry) (Priest did not see him readily >in the records) > > > > > >Thanks in advance for any suggestions about where to start. > >Mary Beth Baker > >USA > > > > >I have Treacy's in Templemore, Clonmore and Kiltillane in Co. Tipp >, not many of them. > > GB >==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== >Online Tipperary Census: >http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/census_ndx.htm > > > >