14-1-1881 ARMED RAID On Christmas night three farmers named Bannan, Butler and Laughlin, living near the Ragg, Thurles, were visited by an armed party. Bannan and Butler's houses were riddled with balls, slugs etc, both windows and door open, and some clothes that were hanging up in rooms opposite the doors and windows were riddled from the shot etc fired into the houses. Laughlin's house was not so furiously attacked, as the door and window were only broken with some blunt instrument, and a hay cock and a couple of pits of champions in the haggard tossed about. The cause of these outrages is for paying their rents over Griffith's valuation, which in the whole amounted to only a few shillings over the standard (Griffith's). Of course the affrighted parties say they do not know the visitors, and hence no arrests are made. Mary

Obviously trying to disprove the theory that "You can't take it with you" > Nenagh Guardian 11-12-1899 > on examining her hair found gold and silver concealed in it up to about > £50. As the old lady was supposed to be extremely poor, and lived in a > penurious manner, the discovery of the money coupled with its > extraordinary place of concealment caused much surprise. > > > > Mary > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and > everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday (depending > on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary Time. This means > the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York and Montreal; 3pm in > California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in Perth; 10am (Friday) in Sydney; > 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm > > >

Gives a broader meaning to having 'silver in her hair', or 'golden tresses'. Pat D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Heaphy" <tipwex@eircom.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 6:16 AM Subject: Nenagh Guardian 11-12-1899 > Nenagh Guardian 11-12-1899 > > > > Extraordinary incident > > > > An extraordinary incident is reported from Carrick on Suir. Some days ago an > old lady named Lacy who lived in an evicted hut near that place, died. > Before her death she requested those about her, when arranging her for > internment, not to disturb her hair. The request was so curious that on her > death they became inquisitive and on examining her hair found gold and > silver concealed in it up to about £50. As the old lady was supposed to be > extremely poor, and lived in a penurious manner, the discovery of the money > coupled with its extraordinary place of concealment caused much surprise. > > > > Mary > > ______________________________

Nenagh Guardian 11-12-1899 Extraordinary incident An extraordinary incident is reported from Carrick on Suir. Some days ago an old lady named Lacy who lived in an evicted hut near that place, died. Before her death she requested those about her, when arranging her for internment, not to disturb her hair. The request was so curious that on her death they became inquisitive and on examining her hair found gold and silver concealed in it up to about £50. As the old lady was supposed to be extremely poor, and lived in a penurious manner, the discovery of the money coupled with its extraordinary place of concealment caused much surprise. Mary

Well, it is clearly after 450 AD when Ireland was christianized and I seriously doubt before 1,000 AD as I do not recall a Meagher as king of Ely before then. I pay little attention after 1,000 AD so.....I would guess that between 1000 and 1164 AD when the Normans invaded? Maybe later as there were still regional petty kings in power. Maybe somebody has the [now rare and valuable] book on Ely and can see if he is mentioned. Janet On 6/29/06, Kennedy Mail <kennedy_mailing_lists@hotmail.com> wrote: > > Hello everyone, > While researching a book titled Tipperary. By J.H.Cotter we find a > refernce > to Meagher on page 133. > > "... when proclaiming him Lord: and the Comarba should be at his shoulder > he > should rise before the Comarba: and that Meagher was King of Ely." > > Supposedly written by one of the Four Masters. > > Does anyone, have any other references to this that might state the date > or > time frame this ocurred? We would like to attempt some > cross-referencing/verification. > It is not clear if it pertains to all of Ely- North or South Ely. As it is > clear there were different rulers for each. > Please forward any suggestions. > Be well, > Clayton > > > > Kennedys? Join us today - share and enhance our Kennedy historys)! The > Official Clan Kennedy Association Site @www.ClanKennedy.org ....from > Cinneide, son of Donn Cuan - Adhaereo virtuti > > _________________________________________________________________ > FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! > http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > IGP County Tipperary Message Board: > http://pub14.bravenet.com/forum/show.php?usernum=1200795777 > >

Phil, it has been my experience that the only time Tithes are on the Internet is when some generous person has taken the time to do a lookup for a particular parish. Most of the time for the Tithes, you have to go to a large library that has them on film or hope that the parish you want has been filmed by the LDS. Finding Tithe information is a challenge. Good luck. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: <pbuckley321@comcast.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:49 PM Subject: Tithe Applotment of Kilcomenty Parish >I have not been able to find the Tithe Applotment of Kilcomenty Parish > anywhere on the Internet. Can anyone help by pointing me in the right > direction? > > Phil Buckley, Bozeman, Montana >

Hello everyone, While researching a book titled Tipperary. By J.H.Cotter we find a refernce to Meagher on page 133. "... when proclaiming him Lord: and the Comarba should be at his shoulder he should rise before the Comarba: and that Meagher was King of Ely." Supposedly written by one of the Four Masters. Does anyone, have any other references to this that might state the date or time frame this ocurred? We would like to attempt some cross-referencing/verification. It is not clear if it pertains to all of Ely- North or South Ely. As it is clear there were different rulers for each. Please forward any suggestions. Be well, Clayton Kennedys? Join us today - share and enhance our Kennedy historys)! The Official Clan Kennedy Association Site @www.ClanKennedy.org ....from Cinneide, son of Donn Cuan - Adhaereo virtuti _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

I have not been able to find the Tithe Applotment of Kilcomenty Parish anywhere on the Internet. Can anyone help by pointing me in the right direction? Phil Buckley, Bozeman, Montana

Scott Humphrey wrote "pending legislation (soon to reach a vote) in the state of Massachusetts (MA) that would restrict access to all birth records since 1915 and all marriage & death records since 1955." Just a comment - In today's climate of identity theft such a limit is not unreasonable. Someone born in 1915 would be 91, which is not impossible in this day and age. We quite often see items on the news, or other programmes, of someone getting hold of a birth certificate and using it to set up a whole new persona with all the requisite pieces of official paper to get work and or benefits from the state illegally. As far as I am aware in Australia you cannot get birth details for those born after 1905 and marriage details for marriages after 1955 (definitely sure about New South Wales). What is important is that other sources of information are not restricted to unreasonably early dates. I know that this first piece of legislation may be seen as the start of a slippery slope but so long as we are all vigilant then we should be able to stop future legislation but in the case of the current legislation I can't see an argument against it - I don't want to be 'virtually' cloned. Gill Spooner

Thanks, Scott. I live in Massachusetts and emailed all who had email addresses on the Ways and Means Committee (where the bill is now). I got general responses from about four and nothing from the others. I am hoping that eager interns who must be in their offices for the summer are keeping tabs. The folks at Vital Records, where the newer records are seem to take their time when they retrieve records. Even when the price just for researching jumps up, service is still not good. I wonder if it someone who works there or town clerks who have developed this bill. I can't see a state legislator coming up with anything like that on his own, especially with so many items that really need to be addressed. Just in case the bill come out of Ways and Means, I emailed my state rep who got back to me saying he will vote against it, but our state rep happens to be in the minority party. I would hope those in the majority party would be against it. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "scott humphrey" <sactoscott@juno.com> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:16 PM Subject: New England (MA) vitals and pending legislation > Hi List, > I learned recently of pending legislation (soon to reach a vote) in the > state of Massachusetts (MA) that would restrict access to all birth > records since 1915 and all marriage & death records since 1955. > > Many might think this doesn't apply to them but this state and its > history to Ireland, holdings of vital records and many forms of records > are in danger of not being available. My fear is that it will (as > legislation often does) snowball with impacts on other records, other > states or even plant ideas with other countries. > > I am 3000 miles away myself but made some e-mail contacts and heard back > from a MA Representative that expressed his displeasure with such > legislation. We might have a few more days to make an impact and I'd be > glad to pass along any information that I have received if it will help > you in making legislative inquiries. > > Slainte! > Scott >

Hi List, I learned recently of pending legislation (soon to reach a vote) in the state of Massachusetts (MA) that would restrict access to all birth records since 1915 and all marriage & death records since 1955. Many might think this doesn't apply to them but this state and its history to Ireland, holdings of vital records and many forms of records are in danger of not being available. My fear is that it will (as legislation often does) snowball with impacts on other records, other states or even plant ideas with other countries. I am 3000 miles away myself but made some e-mail contacts and heard back from a MA Representative that expressed his displeasure with such legislation. We might have a few more days to make an impact and I'd be glad to pass along any information that I have received if it will help you in making legislative inquiries. Slainte! Scott

11/12/1854 INCUMBERED ESTATES COURTS - FRIDAY In the matter of the estate of Darius John M Egan, owner and petitioner. The lands of Silliot hill and Eminiskey, situate in the barony of lower Ormond, and co of Tipperary held in foe farm. Lot 1: Court hill, containing 1661r 29, statute measure yearly rent 271 0s. Valued under order to the court at 90. Adjourned, in consequence of the insufficiency of the biddings. Lot 2: Eminiskey, containing 71 a. 3r. 1p, statute measure. Yearly rent 32. valued under order of the court at 3815s Mr John Julian was declared the purchaser, at 650. Louis Goneill solicitor had the car ridge of the sale. 1/5/1904 Sale of Local Estates At the initiation of Mr P.Fogarty, Co.C., Drominagh, the tenants on the Tuthill estate at Drominagh and Shanakill have purchased their holdings , the terms of sale being 20and a half years on present rents.We understand that the tenants are very grateful to Mr Fogarty for the atention and time he gave to the matter during the progress of negotiations. Terms have also been agreed on between tenants on the Maberley estate at Kilmore and the landlord, the agreement being 6s in £ reduction on first terms tenants and 4s on second. Mr.James McCutcheon opened up negotiations with the landlord. At a meeting of the Clive tenants at Couragunneen an offer was received from the landlord to sell at 21years purchase ( all tenants non judicial). The Rev. P. Crowe, P.P., who presided, recommended acceptance. Some were willing , some were not. The meeting broke up without any decision being arrived at. 10/4/1905 Butler Lloyd Estate On Saturday evening a meeting of the tenantry on the above estate was held in Drom. It appears that the landlord, in an interview with some of the tenants, expressed his willingness to sell to them under the Wyndham Act, but did not state the number of years'purchase he expected. After some discussion it was unanimously decided to write to the agent, Mr. W.J. Menton, of Roscrea, to the effect that they were willing to purchase their holdings, and requesting him to let them know the number of years purchase the landlord expected. "Henry John " as the landlord is popularly called, has always been on the friendliest terms with his Knocka tenantry. 14/2/1854 Incumbered Estates Court Estate of Robert Jocelyn Otway - This property consists of several townlands in the baronies of Uper Ormond and Kilnamanagh, in County Tipperary. Only lots 5, 16 and 17 in the rental were sold, the sale of the others being adjourned. Lot 5 - Balyphilip, Downamona, and Lissyleamy, situate in the barony of Upper Ormond, containing 557 acres, statute measure, and subject to £143-6-3d, head rent and rent charge, and producing a net rent of £216-8-10d. Mr. Atkinson was declared purchaser, in trust, at £2,650. Lot 16, Fantane, barony of Kilnammagh, 184 acres, net annual rent, £113-2-7d. Mr. W.H. Carrol, Tulla House, purchased in trust for £1,750. Lot 17, Dromgill, in said barony, 58 acres, net rent, £29-11s. Mr. Reeves was the purchaser for £500. 15/1/1854 Incumbered Estates Court County of Tipperary - In the matter of the estate of William Whitmore, assignee of Rev James M. Nisbett,an insolvent, owner; John Bridges, petitioner. The lands of Liscanane, otherwisde Liskinlahan, etc, Barony of Lower Ormond, containing 410 acres I rood, 14 perches,statrute measure, or thereabouts, held under an indenture of Lease, bearing date 15th of April, 1795, for lives renewable for ever, subject to the yearly rent of £100-0-8d, present currency, and tithe rent charge of £17-11-7d, and now yielding a gross rent of £235-10s. These lands were sold subject to a jointure of £92-6-2d, for the life of Mrs. Elizabeth Nisbett, now aged about 82 years, also subject to an annuity of £21-16-6d, payable under the Drainage Act for forty years, from Ist May 1852, and also subject to the nominal sum of £5-4s for same period for money borrowed under the Land Improvement Act, from 10th October, 1849, as particularised in ther rental. Mr. David Clarke was the purchaser for the sum of £2,170. 14/5/1905 Sales On Monday last the house and lands of Danganreagh were sold at Roscrea. They were the property of Tobias H. Burke, Esq. The lands contain about 60 Irish acres, with nice house, complete out offices; rent £16, Little Landed Estates Court. The purchaser was Mr. George Drought, Ballywilliam, at the figure of £1920; with fees making the total of £2016. Mr. W.J. Menton ,solr., had carriage of sale, and Mr. J.P. Mason acted as auctioneer, and was thanked by the owner, having completed the sale at a satisfactory price. The clearance sale will be held on May 30. The estate of Miss Evans, at Killough, near Templemore, has been sold at twenty three and a half years purchase of present rents, which are exceptionally low, the landlord having given substantial reductions over recent years. 10/3/1855 Reinstatement On Friday last Samuel M. Gason, Esq., subSheriff of County Tipperary, attended on the lands of Newlawn, Cloninihy etc, lately the estate of James Dempster, Esq., M. D., accompanied by James Healy, Esq., and a large force of constabulary, to execute an injunction from the Court of Chancery, to put Francis Meagher, a minor, a son of the late Francis Meagher, Esq., B.L., into possession. We are happy to state that all parties were again reinstated, having previously settled for their holding, with Mr. Timothy B. Egan, the agent of the Estate, who attended to and who from his kindness and steadiness, and from the well known manner in which he manages other properties over which he is agent, his appointment over the present Estate was greeted with every satisfaction. There was no occasion for the service of constabulary, and all parties are now quietly and happily reinstated in their homes. Mary

24-12-1853 Incumbered Estates Court Mr.Commissioner Longfield sat on Tuesday for the sale of the folowing estate- County of Tipperary- in the matter of the estate of Sir John Craven Carden, Bart., owner and petitioner. Lots 1 (Brocca,543acres 3 roods 31 perches) and 2 (Kevanstown,Scarragh, 249-0-5) adjoin Lough Derg, by which Lot 1 is bounded on the West, and they are situate within about four miles of Borrisokane, seven of Portumna, nine of Nenagh, and twelve of Parsonstown, all excellent market towns, and to the later of which a branch railway is being formed by the Great Southern and Western Railway from their line near Roscrea. These lands are particularly suited to sheep feeding. It would be difficult to find a more suitable location for a private residence, and from the facility of water carriage to both Dublin and Limerick, which the Shannon navigation now affords; they offer a very desirable site for the establishment of an extensive manufactory. Lots 3 (Galbertstown, 368 acres 1 rood 12 perches), 4 (Ballymoneen, 185-1-17), 5 ( Clondoty, 423-1-23), 6 (Ballyduage, 153-0-38), 7 (Brookey,80-2-36), and 8 (Ardkeen, 143-2-32) are situate near the town of Templemore , a station of the Great Southern and Western Railway. These lots are held by a highly respectable and industrious tenantry, and contain some excellent feeding land. Lot 9, (Prospect, 388 acres 3 roods 32 perches is situate close to lots 1 and 2. It is held by one tenant, who has a very valuable interest, and the rent payable out of this lot may be regarded as a Chief Rent. Lots 1 and 2- The Sale of these two lots were adjourned. Lot 3- Mr.Stoney was the purchaser for the sum of £4,150. Lot 4- Sold by private contract. Lot 5-Mr.Trant became the purchaser for the sum of £7,018. Lot 6- Mr.Stoney was declared purchaser at £1,750. Lots 7, 8, and 9 were sold by private contract. Mr.George Bolton, jun., had the carriage of Sale. 20-11-1853 Incumbered Estates Court Mr. Commissioner Hargreave sat this day for the sale of the following estate;- In the matter of the estate of Edward Biggs, Esq., owner and petitioner. Part of the lands of Castle Biggs, otherwise Drominagh, Shanakill, and Gortmore, situate in the parish of Terryglass, Barony of Lower Ormond, and County of Tipperary, held under a Lease of Lives renewable for ever, containing by Griffith's estimation, 1112 acres 2 roods 14 perches,statute measure, at the yearly rent of £72-16-11d and £10-1s renewal fine. Lot 1, Castle Biggs and Drominagh, containing 621 acres 1 rood 7 perches. Captain Tuthill was the purchaser for the sum of £5500. Lot 2, Shanakill, containing 268 acres 3 roods 35 perches- Captain Tuthill was declared buyer at £2000. Lot 3, Gortmore, containing 223 acres 1 rood 12 perches, -Captain Tuthill was declared purchaser at £1325. HIGH COURT OF 14th day of January 1878. JUSTICE CHANCERY DIVISION Final Notice to Claimants and Encumbrancers; In the matter of Maria Cecilia Read, Owner and Petitioner. Take notice that the Schedule of Incumbrances affecting the part od the Town and Lands of Lessnegerry, otherwise Lisnageragh, otherwise Mountheathon, containing 353 acres 2 roods and 7 perches, statute measure; part of the Town and Lands of Ballyskenagh, otherwise Mountheathon, containing 244 acres 3 roods ,8 perches, like measure, with the Mansion House and offices thereon; part of the Town and l Lands of Clyduff, otherwise Mountheathon, containing 59 acres I rood and 5 perches, like measure, all situate in the Barony of Clonlisk and Kings County, held respectively in fee; Part of the Town and Lands of Lower Clyduff, otherwise Mountheathon, containing 16 acres I rood and 31 perches, like measure, situate as aforesaid, and held with other lands under Lease dated Ist May, 1787, for lives renewable for ever, the Estate of the said Mary Cecilia Read is lodged with the Clerk of the Records of this Court, any any person having claim not therein inserted, or objecting thereto, either on account of the amount, or the priority of any charge reported to him or any other person, or for any other reason, is required to lodge an objection thereto, stating the particulars of his demand,and duly verified with tthe said Clerk on or before the 7th day of February 1878, and to appear on the following Wednesday, the 13th day of February,1878, at 11 o'clock, before the Honourable Judge Ormsby, at his Court in Dublin, when instructions will be given for the final settlement of the Schedule; and further take notice, that any demand reported by such Schedule is liable to be objected to within the time aforesaid. Dated this 14th day of January 1878. James McDonnell, Examiner J.D.Meldon & Sons, Solicitors, having carriage of the proceedings, 14 Upper Ormond Quay, Dublin. Mary

16-3-1852 ENCUMBERED ESTATES COURT Rev Mr Minchin, owner; Richard Chadwick, petitioner. Derrycallaghan, otherwise GreenHills, containing 232acres 2 roods 18 perches statute measure; head rent and tithe rent charge, £13-7-7d; nett annual value, £327-18-2; Messrs Brasington and Gale's valuation, £351-17-6d. The first bid was £2000 and at £4425 Mr Montague Blackett was the purchaser. Mr John Fawcett, 16 Upper Mount St, was the solicitor. 16-2-1852 ENCUMBERED ESTATE SALE In the matter of the estate of Rev William Minchin,Owner; ex parte Richard Chadwick, Petitioner. The commissioners will on Thursday, March11, at the hour of 12 noon, at their Court, 14 Henrietta Street, set up and sell by Public Auction the following lands - Lot no1- Ballycamas, barony of Eliogarty, held under fee farm grant; Lot no 2 - Blean and Loughisle, Barony of Upper Ormond, held under fee farm grant; Lot no 3,Cloncannon, Barony of Ikerrin, held under fee farm grant; Lot no 4 - The retrenched Lands , Barony of Clonlisk, held under fee farm grant; Lot no 5- the Town and Lands of Moneygall, Kilkearan, otherwise Rathkearan, and Gurrane, situate in the Barony of Clonlisk, held partly under fee farm grant, partly under lease for ever, and partly in fee simple; together with the right to hold fairs and markets in said town of Moneygall, and the Customs, Court and duties thereof, held under Letters Patent; Lot no 5, the Mansion House and Demesne Lands of Derrycallaghan otherwise Greenhills, barony of Ikerrin,held in fee simple, except for about 3 acres and 38 perches, statute measure of the bog thereof, which is held under lease for lives, renewable forever, at the yearly rent of two shilings, and a Peppercorn Renewal Fine. 20/11/1854 Encumbered Estates Court In the matter of the estate of Richard W. Monsell, Esq - The lands of Curraghduff and Kilkip East, and Kilkip West, in the Barony of Ikerrin, and County of Tipperary. Lot 1 - The lands of Curraghduff, situate in the parish of Templemore, containing 175 acres 1 rood 25 perches, statute measure, according to recent survey, held under fee farm rent, producing £82-2-9 pence half penny yearly rent. Mr. Michael Corcoran was declared the purchaser at £1800. Lot 2 - The lands of Kilkip East and Kilkip west ,situate in the parish of Killea, and adjoining the foregoing lands, containing 177 acres 0 roods 28 perches, statute measure, held under said fee farm rent, producing £82-15s yearly rent. Mr. Corcoran was declared purchaser at £2050. 8/5/1854 Sale of property On Monday last, according to advertisement, Mr. James Marshall, auctionneer, attended at Brundley's Hotel, for the purpose of putting up for sale the lands of Upper Belleen, purchased by Mr. Abraham, Seed Merchant, of Limerick, in 1852, under the Encumbered Estates Act. Being the fair day of this town, the sale was well attended, and a large number of local gentry were present. At half past two o'clock, Mr.Marsalll commenced the biddings for lot no 1, containing 55 acres 3 roods 11 perches, plantation measure, all in grass; it adjoins the demesne of Solsboro, and has 120 fine old Oak trees on it, besides five acres of thriving plantation, containing over 4000 acres of forest trees, of over 20 years growth. For this lot the first offer was £1100. The bidding was then carried on rather briskly, till Caleb Going, Esq., of Traverston, made the final offer of £1550. Mr. Marshall said he would now submit lot no. 2, in case any gentleman should wish to purchase the lots separately, after which he would put up both together, and if the bids for the two conjointly should exceed the amount offered separately, the property would be knocked down to the gentleman so bidding. Mr. Marshall then proceeded to take the biddings for lot no2, containing 62 acres 3 roods 29 perches, plantation measure. It adjoins the demsne lands of Richmond, is well laid down with clover and grass seeds, with the exception of six acres of wheat; is in a flourishing condition. There are upwards of 80 full grown trees on this lot. The bidding commenced at £1125, and was contiuned languidly till it reached £1200, which was offered by Mr. Rody Spain, Merchant, Nenagh. The two lots together were then put up. the bidding was opened by Mr. Malachi Ryan, of Tyone, at £2000, and after a slow competition, Mr. Willington made the final bid of £2750. Mr. Marshall said he had received a letter from Dr.Atkinson, of Drogheda, who had never seen the lands, offering £3000 for the property. If any gentleman would bid beyond that sum, Mr. Marshall would feel happy in knocking down the estate to him; otherwise he should declare Dr. Atkinson the purchaser. There being no further offer made, Mr. Marshall became the purchaser, in trust, for Dr. Atkinson at £3000. Mary

More estates. 5-6-1852 ENCUMBERED ESTATES COURT SALE In the matter of the estate of Rev William MInchin, owner. Exparte, Richard Chadwick, petitioner. The real and freeheld estates of the owner in this matter,were on March 11 last, submitted for sale by the Commissioners,at their court, Henrietta Street, Dublin; the property had ben offered in six lots, and sales were then effected in only lots 1 and 6, the latter of which comprised the mansion and lands of Greenhills. The four lots remaining unsold were by order of the Commissioners, set up for sale at the Courthouse, Roscrea, onThursday last, by Mr J. Connolly, auctioneer, Parsonstown. Long previous to the hour (12 o'clock) fixed for commencement of the sale the courthouse was densely thronged by persons taking an interest in the disposal of the property. A survey and valuation of these estates had been made pursuant to an order of the Commissioners, by Messrs Brassington and Gale, when their contents and valuation rents were taken, as stated in the rental. The first lot offered for competition was lot no 2. This lot is situate near the town of Moneygall, and is in the Lateragh electoral division of Nenagh poor law union, barony of Upper Ormond, and County of Tipperary. It consists entirely of arable and pasture land of good quality, and is in the neighbourhood of the subsequent lots. It is denominated the lands of Blean and Loughisle. It was stated to contain 742 acres i rood and 26 perches, statute measure, or 439 acres, 3 roods and 9 perches plantation measure. It was held by tenants either for lives or years, with the exception of two holdings together containing 43 acres, which were held from year to year, and 190 acres lately come into the hands of the receiver, and valued at £121 per annum. The lot is described as being held under fee farm grant from Rev Edmond Joseph O'Reilly and others tro Rev William Minchin (the owner) dated April 30, 1851, subject to the yearly rent of £74-11-1d, made pursant to the Renewable Leasehold Conversion act. The original lease which has been so converted,bears date June 15, 1788, made by Denis O'Brien to William Minchin for three lives renewable for ever, said original lease and fee farm grant, with counterparts of the tenants leases, should be handed to the purchaser. The rental hitherto received from the entire lot when the entire was set amounted to £443-18-9d, and Messrs Brassington & Co valuation of it is £459-7-6d, ordnance tenement valuation £387-3-3d, and poor law valuation £496-10s. It is also subject to £15-13-2d tithe rent, and its annual incomeper the recent rental would be £353-14-6d. The first offer was £1,000 from Mr Charles Williamson, who afterwards advanced to £2,973. The other bidders were Messrs E.A. Blackett, Jeremiah Clarke, and Darius McEgan, which later gentleman was declared the purchaser at £3,000. Lot no 3 was the next offered for sale, it is denominated the lands of Cloncannon; it was stated to be held under a fee farm grant, which,pursuant to to the Leaseholds Conversion act, a lease for three lives renewable forever, had been converted, subject to an annual head rent of £159-14-10d, and £15-10-4d tithe rent charge. It is stated to contain 1194 statute acres. 587 statute acres are demised for a term of 1000 years, at a yearly rent of £126-9-3d. the residue is either untenanted or held by yearly tenants. Annuities are made payable on a portion of these lands for two annuities of £83 each, for the lives of two persons, respectively aged 45 and 46. The net annual rental deducting head rent and tithe rent charge is £219. Messrs Brassington & Co's valuation is £512, the poor law valuation is £587. It is situate close to the the town of Moneygall, and is in the Roscrea poor law union, Borrisnoe electoral division, barony of Ikerrin and County of Tipperary. It consists for the most part of arable and pasture, and includes 204acres 3 roods and 30 perches,stature measure of unclaimed mountain and common. The bidders were Messrs McEgan, Bennett, Smallman, Williamson, Clarke, and Blackett, which latter gentleman was declared purchaser at £750. Lot no 4 consisted of lands denominated the retrenched lands, held under a fee farm grant. It is stated to contain 500 statute acres, nearly half of which is either unset or held by yearly tenants. The residue is held by leasehold tenants. The last total annual rental is stated to be £303-7-8d, and is subject to £99-6-2d head rent, and £22-8s tithe rentcharge, which would leave its net annual value, per this rental, £188-13-3d. Mesrs Brassington & Co valued it at £289-3-2d. A loan of £100 was obtained by the owner under the Landed Property Improvement Act, and expended on the improvement of art of this lot called "Loyer", about £13 of which sum has been reapid, and the purchaser will be subject to payment of the residue by half yearly instalments of £3-5s each; it is also situate close to the town of Moneygall. The bidders were Messrs George M.Williamson, Michael bennett, Clarke, Touhey and Blackett, the latter of whom became purchaser at £1200. The next lot consisted of the town and lands of Moneygall, Kilkeeran and Gurrane, held under fee farm grant, containing altogether 305 ac. Ir 6p. stature measure, situate in the barony of Clonlisk and Kings County, with the fairs and markets of said town of Moneygall and the customs thereof, held under a Patent. Part of this lot, containing 107ac 1r 8p. statute measure, is within the bounds and known as part of Greenhill Demesne, the remaimder of which forms part of lot no1. A sum of £87-19-3d was expended on part of this lot last referred to, under the Labouchere Drainage Act, payable by half yearly instalments of £3-0-2d, four of which instalments have been repaid, and the purchaser will be liable for payment of the residue. Comprising part of it, is situate the village and post town of Moneygall, which occupies 21ac 1 r 28 p statute measure of this lot, and is valued by Messrs Brassington & Gale at £25-10s per annum; and the townland outside of the town, being the residue of the lot, containing 283ac 3r 18p, and is valued by Mesrs Brassington & Gale at £336-12-5d per annum. Its gross annual value,as per rental, is stated to be £613-10-7d , subject to £11-10-11d headrent and tithe rent charge, leaving a presumed net annual value of £501-19-8d. For this lot the bidders were Messrs Geo. Minchin, Williamson, Clarke, Blackett, Bolton and Greene. Mr Greene was declared the purchaser at £2,800 in trust for Mr Holmes. We understand that Mr Blackett, the purchaser of two of the above lots, is an English gentleman, resident in Northumberland. Mary

Sales of Estates etc. 4-12-1853 Value of Land That the value of land in Ireland has been greatly enhanced of late, there is abundant evidence to testify. However, as the Encumbered Estates Court is the medium through which so many properties have changed owners- it must be looked on as a fair exponent on this subject; and by reference to the annals of this public mart, we find that within the last twelve months the sales effected realised on average 20 years purchase - the amount produced by the last property brought to hammer in the Court (part of the estate of Capt. Otway, R.N., the particulars of which will be found underneath), was equal to as much as 24 years purchase. This is a cheering fact,and affords a good omen of better days for Ireland. In the matter of Robert Otway, Esq., owner; William Stephen, Esq., petitioner. The rental of the estate in this matter comprised 20 lots, comprising 8372 statute acres, and producing a nett yearly sum of £2996-3-11d; but in consequence of an order the court made after the appearance of the advertisement for sale in the newspapers, only eight lots were put up for competition today, the remaining twelve having been withdrawn for the present. The following towns and lands in the baronies of Upper Ormond and Kilnamanagh, county of Tipperary, of which lots 1, 2, 3, 18, 19 and 12, are held in fee simple, and lots 4 and 5 under lease, renewable for ever. Lot 1 - Lissenhall, containing 242 acres 3 roods 37 perches,statute measure, nett rent or value, £98-15-3d. Mr. William Hutchinson Carrol was the buyer, for £5000. Lot 2 - Moanroan, containing 325 a1r19p, statute measure; nett rent £107-14-4d. Mr Carrol was the buyer at £3300. Lot 3, Lisbrien and the Division, containing 248a or 32p, statute measure; nett rent £95-11-5d. Mr.Carrol was the buyer for £1600. Lot 4 - Ballycahill, containing 232a 1r17p, statute measure;nett rent £189-12s. Mr.James Poe was the buyer (in trust) for £3450. Lots 5 and 18 were adjourned. Lot 19, Gurrane, containing 516 acres1r 33p, statute measure; nett rent £73-4s. Mr Edward Reeves was the buyer for £1700. Lot 20 - Glanaguile and Knockgariff, containing 1638 a 2r 6p statute measure. This lot to be sold indemnified by lot 6 from the annuity of £20, late Irish currency,stated in the rental,but subject to the annual tithe rent charge of £44-4-9d, viz - annual rent of lot 20, £360; deduct tithe rent charge, £44-4-9d, nett profit, £315-15-3d. Mr. Dunkett was declared purchaser (in trust) for £6000. The total sum produced by the sale of the lots was £21,050, equal to 24 years purchase on the nett rent of £881. 20-11-1853 Incumbered Estates Court Mr. Commissioner Hargreave sat this day for the sale of the following estate;- In the matter of the estate of Edward Biggs, Esq., owner and petitioner. Part of the lands of Castle Biggs, otherwise Drominagh, Shanakill, and Gortmore, situate in the parish of Terryglass, Barony of Lower Ormond, and County of Tipperary, held under a Lease of Lives renewable for ever, containing by Griffith's estimation, 1112 acres 2 roods 14 perches,statute measure, at the yearly rent of £72-16-11d and £10-1s renewal fine. Lot 1, Castle Biggs and Drominagh, containing 621 acres 1 rood 7 perches. Captain Tuthill was the purchaser for the sum of £5500. Lot 2, Shanakill, containing 268 acres 3 roods 35 perches- Captain Tuthill was declared buyer at £2000. Lot 3, Gortmore, containing 223 acres 1 rood 12 perches, -Captain Tuthill was declared purchaser at £1325. 13-11-1853 Encumbered Estates Court In the matter of estate of John James Willington, Esq., owner; Sarah Jane Anne Savage, a minor, petitioner. The lands of Killoskehane and Lisnegatt, with their sub denominations, called Upper and Lower Coohane, Lackendaragh and Kyranne, situate in the baronies of Ikerrin and Eliogarty containing in the whole 2541 acres, 3 roods, 14 perches. Lot one comporising the lands of Kyranne, containing 484 acres 2 roods, 17 perches, and producing £169-17s per annun, subject to £10-17s tithe rent charge; Mr.Hamilton was declared purchaser,in trust,at £4,800. Lot 2 comprising part of the lands of Upper Coohane, containing 260 acres 2 roods 2 perches, producing £114-6-1d per annum, subject to tithe rent charge £6-17-10d. Mr Hamilton was the buyer at £2,100 Lot 3, comprising part of the lands of Upper Coohane, containing 155 acres 1 rood, 2 perches, producing £106-5-3d per annum, subject to £7-10s tithe rent charge; Mr Hamilton was the purchaser for the sum of £2,250. Lot 4, comprising the lands of Lisnegatt, containing 171 acres 1 rood 34 perches, producing £147-13-11d per annum,. subject to tithe rent charge of £9-7-9 payable by the tenant. Mr Hamilton was declared purchaser at £4,250. Lot 5, comprising part of the lands of Killoskehane, containing 160 acres 3 roods, 7 perches, producing £205-14-1d per annum, subject to tithe rent charge of £9-5-0. Mr. Hamilton was declared purchaser at £5,400. Lot 6, comprising part of the lands of Killoskehane, and Lackendarragh and part of Upper and Lower Coohane, containing 792 acres 0 rood,1o perches, producing £544-19-8d per annum, subject to £24-3-8 tithe rent charge. Mr Hamilton was declared purchaser at £6,000. Lot7 - Comprising Killoshehane Demesne Mansion house and Offices, and part of the lands of Kiloskehane, containg 517 acres 0 rood,22 perches, producing £642-6-11 per annum, subject to £24 tithe rent charge, and jointure of £46110-9d, for the life of Mrs.Sarah Willington, now aged 69 years. The first offer was £5,000, and Mr. Hamilton was the buyer in trust at £10,400. 11-8-1851 CASTLE WALLER - NEWPORT On Wednesday last the Castle Waller estates, Newport, were visited for the first time since his purchase of the property in the Encumbered Estates Court, by Henry Hodgson, Esq., of Dublin. Immediately upon their appearance on the Castle Waller estate, which they first visited, the tenantry assembled and lit a large bonfire, where, having regaled themselves, the merry dance was kept up until a late hour and the greatest harmony and enthusiasm prevailed, the tenants vying with each other in manifesting respect towards a landlord, of whom they may feel justly proud and who promises that nothing shall be left undone, upon his part to better their condition. Having closely examined the grounds and plantations of the large and beautiful, but long neglected demesne, with its ancient castle, battlements and tower and surrounded with its wooden glens, the growth of centuries, with its clear streams and majestic mountain scenery, both men took their leave in the most affable and condescending manner, of the tenantry, who made the air resound again with their acclamations. Mr. Hodgson then visited his estates at Lackamore (where an excellent copper mine is in full work) and Killeen, where also he was received with a true Irish welcome. Mr. Hodgson has left an agriculturalist and intends expending a large amount of capital in the improvement of the estates, whereby constant employment will be afforded to hundreds. Mary To be Contd.

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The Times 23-2-1839 Destruction of Kilcooley Abbey by Fire. This splendid old Gothic mansion, the residence of Mr. Ponsonby Barker, one of the Conservative candidates for the County of Tipperary, was burned to the ground on Sunday Morning, The furniture, and everything but the plate, were consumed. Captain and Mrs Barker, who had been sleeping in the Abbey, had a very narrow escape, having got out at the window and descended 40 feet by a ladder, a few moments before the floor of their bedchamber had fallen in. The fire originated in the Library during the night. The Abbey was insured for the sum of 13,200. (Don't know if its shillings or pounds. M.) From the Nenagh Guardian. December 1901 UNITED IRISH LEAGUE On Sunday last a very large and successful meeting was held outside the church gates in Kilbarron after ten o clock Mass for the purpose of establishing a branch of the United Irish League. Messrs PJ O'Brien, MP, David Sheehy ex MP, JF Power and P.O'Brien (assistant sec of Toomevara and Nenagh united branches) attended as a deputation. The proceedings throughout were most enthusiastic, and stirring speeches were delivered by the two first named gentlemen. Rev Fr Meehan presided, and amongst those present were John Costello, JP, DC, Garancurry; Wm Lynch, DC, Finnoe; John Brereton, Oldcourt; Denis Brereton, do; John Costello, DC, Lisquillibeen; Wm Slattery, DC, Brocka; Joseph O'Meara, Kelvinstown; John Lynch, Finnoe; Patrick Cleary, Annagh Castle; Martin Costello, DC, Kylepark; John Costello, do; Michael Grace, John Donohue, Martin Tierney, Jeremiah Bourke, Michael Lynch, William Hogan, John and Patrick Cleary junior, John Slattery, Glenbower. Mary

Hello to all researchers: I have recently discovered that Rev. Patrick OMeally, priest of RC church in Shinrone could very well be family. Rev. Patrick was curate at Shinrone church in 1836 and transfered to Mountshannon church as its priest. He served as priest there from 1836 to 1846 and built the new Whitegate/Mountshannon parish church in 1838. Then he was sent back to Shinrone in 1846 to serve as the priest of the parish. I believe I had seen that N. Tipperary Heritage Center in Nenagh had the Shinrone records. This confuses me since Shinrone is located in Kings Co. Offaly. Does anyone have suggestions as to why this might be? Also, is the N. Tipp. Heritage center still in business? I had commissioned a search in 2005 and I used the web page that was listed on their correspondence and could not access their site. Any suggestions would be appreciate!! Thanks...Debbie

Is there any organisation in Tipperary that would have family information of a Bennett family from Old Town, Templemore? They were C of I. Robyn