1-1-1817 Freemans Journal. Since the commencement of the Tipperary Assizes, the following convictions have taken place; Patrick Sullivan, for stealing money and plate from Honora Bulger; pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 7 years transportation. Simon Stack and Patrick Egan, for stealing an oak tree at Ballintaggart, to be confined three months. Margaret Roberts, Honora Ryan, and Honora Ryan jnr, for a confederacy to defraud with base tokens of the Bank of Ireland. Thomas Maher, for robbing the house of Thomas Moore, of watches, jewellery etc. to the amount of 300s. John Molony for horse stealing. John McCarthy for stealing lard? at Tipperary, to be imprisoned three months. Thomas Moloney for pig stealing; to be transported for 7 years. John Quigley for rape on Judith Dawson. Thomas Lahy for robbery, transportation for 7 years. William Shanahan and Daniel Delahunty? Delahauty, for burglary and robbery in the house of the Rev. Irvine Whytty; pleaded guilty-Michael Burke stood his trial for the same offence and was acquitted. Mary

I paid them to do a search a few years ago, and had the same results. They couldn't find any of my family, but sent me another family's info, like that would be OK? The turnaround time, including mail movement was only eight days, so I don't think they really looked all that much! Phil

18-4-1867 From the Times. Dublin April 17th. A party of 18 prisoners, charged with high treason, were lodged in Nenagh Gaol yesterday. They are described as extremely respectable-looking, and able young men, their parents, in some instances, being farmers in comfortable circumstances. Thurles Bridewell is still fully occupied by prisoners of this description , who are awaiting an investigation into their several cases prior to their ultimate discharge or committal. It is said that several districts from which the prisoners have been brought, -Thurles, Holycross, Borrisoleigh, etc -are in a very backward state of cultivation, and in consequence of the unsettled state of those places, and the numerous arrests which have been made, no preparation for putting in the crops have been made.

13-3-1889 Times Clonmel assizes Mr. justice Holmes, opening the assizes at Clonmel yesterday, congratulated the Grand Jury on the peaceful state of the Southern Division of Tipperary. The calendar contained but 11 cases, eight of which were of malicious assault, and one of arson. The state of the County on the whole, showed an improvement as compared with previous returns.

18-9-1832 Times We are informed that a mine has been discovered at Oulah. Within four miles of Tipperary. It appears to possess properties similar to those of the Silver-Mines near Nenagh. Several cartloads of the ore have already been drawn away. Dublin Register. Mary

----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dalton" <rnbill@centurytel.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2006 7:06 AM Subject: [TIP] North Tipperary Heritage Service > Hi all > > I commissioned a search for my family in Ireland via the North Tipperary > Genealogy and Heritage Services. When I got the results, I was informed > that the people that I was looking for were not found. But, the names > that they listed in the letter as having been searched for were misspelled > and switched about. I sent off an e-mail about that to them on the 14th. > As of today, I have had no response. Do any of the listers here have any > experience with these people or know how to contact the person in charge? > I am beginning to wonder if my money is "gone with the wind". > > Bill Dalton > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and > everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday (depending > on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary Time. This means > the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York and Montreal; 3pm in > California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in Perth; 10am (Friday) in Sydney; > 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm >

Bill, a few years ago I had research done, and they researched what I had asked for. The center closed and the person in charge sent me an email because I had asked for research before. It was an offer of help if I needed some little thing. When the center reopened, I received an email message saying the center had opened. So overall, I was quite impressed. I wonder if someone new worked on your request. Your experience sounds very different from mine. It will be interesting to hear what others have to say. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Dalton" <rnbill@centurytel.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: North Tipperary Heritage Service > Hi all > > I commissioned a search for my family in Ireland via the North Tipperary > Genealogy and Heritage Services. When I got the results, I was informed > that the people that I was looking for were not found. But, the names > that they listed in the letter as having been searched for were misspelled > and switched about. I sent off an e-mail about that to them on the 14th. > As of today, I have had no response. Do any of the listers here have any > experience with these people or know how to contact the person in charge? > I am beginning to wonder if my money is "gone with the wind". > > Bill Dalton > > ______________________________

3-10-1815 The Times Clonmel Sept 27th-A proclamation has been issued, and was posted a few nights ago on the Bridge of Clonmel, commanding the Irish People to abolish all the little mischievous distinctions and party feuds of the Caravats and Shanavests, at the peril of their lives, and to stick to the one great cause, to cut down the Tythe Proctors, and those who gain by the Tythes. "Lieutenant Derenzy of the Wexford Militia, and one of the soldiers under his command, were wounded, on the night of Saturday last, by a shot fired from the house of Mr. Ellard, near Littleton, Co. Tipperary. It was understood that an attack was to have been made upon those in th house, and the military party were hastening to their support. Mary

Murder Cashel Dec. 23rd. 1814 This day, at noon, Hardy, a tithe farmer was murdered at the gate of Monagee about one mile from the city. Hardy, after enforcing the payment of some tithes, left Cashel on his return to Newport, accompanied by two other procters, who had been here on similar errands. They were met by two men, supposed to be from Newport, who produced blunderbusses, ordered the two proctors to return to Cashel, and detained Hardy, the most obnoxious. They then fired three shots at Hardy, and left him for dead. A surgeon and other persons came out directly from Cashel and afforded every aid, but the proctor died within three hours. He had sufficient strength to relate the particulars, and name the murderers who were well known to him. Pursuit was made, but, for the moment they have escaped. Mary

Hi all I commissioned a search for my family in Ireland via the North Tipperary Genealogy and Heritage Services. When I got the results, I was informed that the people that I was looking for were not found. But, the names that they listed in the letter as having been searched for were misspelled and switched about. I sent off an e-mail about that to them on the 14th. As of today, I have had no response. Do any of the listers here have any experience with these people or know how to contact the person in charge? I am beginning to wonder if my money is "gone with the wind". Bill Dalton

24-1-1919 The Times. Unemployment in Ireland. To the Editor of the Times. Sir-I think the English taxpayers might like to know how their money is administered in Ireland. There is a so-called "out of employment" donation, oresumaby for people unemployed by the cessation of the war. Here in Nenagh, Co. Tipperary, there are no unemployed, yet within the last fortnight, £3000 of public money has been paid to farmers, millers, carpenters, masons, labourers, and their wives, and to all sorts and conditions of domestic servants. The unfortunate taxpayer and landowner can get no service, servants and labourers preferring to draw 28s (could be 29s, copy hard to read) a week and no work, to the maximum 26s a week and work, fixed by the government. I saw on Friday last hundreds of well dressed men drawing this money, and was greatly inconvenienced, when driving home, by the recipients in horse and donkey carts who had "drunk luck" rather freely to their unemployment donation. Apparently this money can be obtained by just signing a filled insurance card; consequently many frauds are perpetrated, and not a responsible person looks into the matter. I can get neither mason or carpenter. The irony of the misadministeration is that the majority of people drawing the donation are Sinn Feiners. The Government has indeed put a premium on dishonesty, laziness, and thriftlessness. Yours Truly. Curraghbawn, Nenagh. Jan 20th. B.F.KOE Mary

18-12-1874 QUARTER SESSIONS On the list for the forthcoming Quarter Sessions at Thurles are the following : Queen V Philip Kennedy, for having in his possession on the lands of Grousehill, an illicit still and seven barrels of wash for illicit distillation. Queen V James O'Keefe - larceny of four herrings at Clonmel Railway Station. Mary

From the Nenagh Guardian 18-12-1849 ATTACK ON A DWELLING On the night of the 13th instant, a party of six men came to the house of land bailiff, Michael Lacey, Bushfield, Carrigatoher. They demanded admittance, but having been refused it, one of the party fired a shot through the kitchen window while the others broke open the door and rushed into the bedroom of Lacey, who when he heard the party at first, got out of bed and made his escape, in a state of nudity through the thatched roof of the house, before the ruffians entered. When they found the object of their vengeance had fled, and was not within their murderous grasp, the commenced on the crockery ware in the house, and broke all the plates and dishes. Mary

8-5-1902 Dublin May 7th. At Templemore, today. Before Mr. Bruen and Mr. Heard, resident magistrates, Thomas Gleeson and others were tried under the Crimes Act on charges of participation in an unlawful assembly and of intimidation of one Lawrence Long, the accupant of a farm formerly in the possession of Michael Gleeson. Evidence was given in support of the charges, which were not maintained against three of the defendants. The remaining nine were convicted on the first charge. Thomas Gleeson was convicted on both charges, and on the first charge he is to be imprisoned in Clonmel Gaol for one month with hard labour, and at the expiration of the time he must find bail in £20 and two sureties of £10 each for a yearor in default remain in gaol for three additional months. On the second charge he must be imprisoned for one month with hard labour, to run concurrently with the first imprisonment. James Hennessy, Thomas Hennessy, Edward Osborne, and Michael Dywre were sentenced on the first charge to one months imprisonment in Clonmel Gaol. Thomas Burke, Timothy Geehan, and Patrick Fanning were sentenced on the same charge to three weeks imprisonment, and Cornelius Burke was sent to gaol for a fortnight. Mary

31-5-1831 Times. Horrible attempt at Assassination. We regret to have to record a most atrocious attempt which was made to murder Major Carter, Inspector General of the Police, at Thurles, on Tuesday evening last. We give the particulars from a letter written by Mr. Kelly, the active and intelligent superintendent of police in that district. His letter is dated Thurles May 25th :-"Major Carter and his lady were walking together, about 200 yards from his residence, at Dovea, which is about 5 miles from this town, between 8 and 9 O'Clock last night, when he was punced upon by two armed assassins from the plantation immediately adjoining the avenue; one of them got in contact with the Major, and discharged a pistol at him, which was loaded with slugs. The contents passed through the abdomen over the hip bone from front to rear. The Major was only armed with a small sword cane which he tried to unsheath, but it was broken by one of the ruffians near the handle. The second fellow then fired, but it does not appear that the shor took effect. Mrs Carter ran screaming to the house, where Mr. Kelly happened to be at the time, and who, on hearing the shots, armed himself and ran to the place: he met Mrs. Carter half ways. On coming up there the Major lay, the ruffians had fled, not until, however, they had beaten the unfortunate object of their deadly malice most brutally about the head and face, leaving him for dead. Medical aid was procured as soon as possible, and the opinion is, that the wound is of a most serious nature, and near a mortal part. Dublin Evening Mail. Mary

1-3-1853 From the Times Ireland From our own correspondent. Dublin Monday Morning The Irish Land Company. It is stated that the City of Dublin Steam Packet Company have just brought across from Liverpool the first portion of the carefully selected herd of young cattle, and bulls, of the best breeds, and 10 excellent work horses, a quantity of improved agricultural implements. The stock has been forwarded, we hear, to the company's recently purchased property of Lanespark and Poyntstown, situate in the Counties of Tipperary and Kilkenny, and future large importations, we are informed may be expected for the same property, and for the large portion of the Kingston Estate, above 20'000 acres which the Irish Land Company has purchased. The Company possesses property in the Counties of Tipperary, Limerick, Cork, Galway, Kilkenny, and Wexford, aggregating nearly 30'000 acres; the larger portion of it contiguous to and in the two first named Counties,. It is further added that preparations are being made by the company for extensive operations on their estates in arterial drainage and other improvements. Mary

Mr. Cullen, Relieving Officer (No 2) said he heard old Delany (the fiddler), who was down as 96 years of age, got married; he had been in receipt this time back of 2s 6d a week, and he wished to kown if the relief was to be continued to him. Mr. H. Poe said that there was half a column in the Guardian about him, and his marriage to Shan Van Vocht. Mr. H. Head- I think that on a account of his marrige with the little old woman he would want more relief. Mr. Sheehan heard that Jack got a lot of money by his marriage. Relieving Officer (No 2) heard that Jack had £30 of his own, and that the wife brought £20, so that he was enabled to lodge £50 in one of the local banks. Mr. H. Head - If he had that money, how was it that we have ben paying hin outdoor relief? Vice-Chairman - When was he married? The Relieving Officer belived on yesterday. On being questioned as to the age of the bride, he believed tht she was only 70 years of age . And in respect of her lodging £20 in the bank in conjunction with the bridegroom's £30. He heard that such had been the case, but he did not know it of his own knowledge. Delaney was her third husband; she was a fine strong lump of a woman. It was said Father Joe Magrath refused to marry them, and then Jack truged into Nenagh to get the nupital knot tied; and on his way he stopped in a cabbin near Bawn for a shower, when he lilted up " Haste to the Wedding' and had all the boys and girls dancing like mad. Mr. Kennedy (Relieving Officer No1) said Delany, who is a dark man, along with being very old, fell some time ago into a fire, and had a narrow escape of being burned to death; this was said to be principal cause of his getting married, for thereby he would have a person younger than himself to take care of him. It was remarked that allowing the twice or thrice widwed woman to be 76 years of age, she would be still twenty years his junior. It was further stated that Jack had a house rent free; that Lord Dunalley, Lord Bloomfield, and others acted acted very kindly towards him from time to time. Jack's name was removed from the list of out-door relief. Mary

7-1-1918 The Nenagh Murder. At the Inquest in Nenagh, Co. Tipperary, on George Sheehan, who was killed in his own house while trying to prevent three masked and armed men from stealing a rifle belonging to his son, a soldier, home on leave from France. Mrs Sheehan aged 70, stated that while she and her husband were in the house after her son had gone out three masked men entered. Her husband grappled with one of them, and shots were fired. Her husband cried out that he was wounded. The men then left with her son's rifle. Sergeant Daughton, of the Royal Irish Constabulary, said that the old man, who was 76 years of age, told him that he had his assailant under him on the ground, when the latter shot him in the stomach with a revolver. He continued to hold him by the throat, and the man then shot him in the wrist and disabled him. The Police and Military are searching for the stolen rifle. 12-1-1918 Three arrests have been made of men alleged to have been concerned in the murder of the old army pensioner George Sheehan, at his home near Nenagh, a short time ago. Sheehan lost his life while trying to prevent three masked and armed men from stealing a rifle belonging to his son, a soldier home on leave from the front. The men arrested are three brothers named O'Brien, the sons of a woman who was postmistress in the Silvermines district, of Tipperary, up to a few weeks ago. Two of them are National School Teachers, and the third who was a postman for a time, is a Captain in the Sinn Fein Volunteers, Their Father who is dead, was a Policeman. The accused men, who are in Limerick gaol, have been remanded for 8 days. Mary

Hi Mary, All your stories today (as in the past) are a great help to we Australians trying to come to terms with the conditions our Irish convicts and other ancestors experienced. On a personal note I have to wonder if the Mr Maher mentioned by M O'Connell is a family connection. Thank you for these informative snippets. Ron Norton Gordon ACT ronn007@optusnet.com.au VET anti-virus protected ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Heaphy" <tipwex@eircom.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2006 1:23 AM Subject: [TIP] The Times-From the Tipperary Vindicator 10-4-1846. Ireland-The Times-From the Tipperary Vindicator 10-4-1846. Mr. O'Connell and his Quondam "Friend"............. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 4335 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now!

Mary much appreciated Thank you for all the hard work Laraine in Australia ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Heaphy" <tipwex@eircom.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2006 11:54 PM Subject: [TIP] 15-8-1843 From the Nenagh Guardian. > Nenagh Guardian 15-8-1843 > > Thursday the Sub-Sheriff of this County having occasion to execute an habere > on the lands of Annagh, at the suit of "Kilban? V. O'Brien" and having > proceeded thither, was informed that a large force of about five thousand > men were determined to oppose the process of the law. The Sheriff drove into > Birr, and in a short time returned to the spot, accompanied by almost the > full force of the 5th Fusiliers stationed in that Town, amounting to 250 > men, under their commanding officer-also a strong police force of about 70 > men. A collision would certainly have taken place, and lives lost were it > not for the kind interposition of Mr. J.W.Walsh, Justice of the peace, who > was known to and highly regarded by the peasantry of the neighbourhood. Mr. > Walsh remonstrated with the leaders, and his advice was respectfully > attended to, for they all departed quietly, and the Sheriff was enabled to > perform his duty. "The opposition on the part of the people was owing, we > learn, to their Roman Catholic Clergyman being one of the parties evicted". > > Mary > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > >>Watch those SUBJECT headings! When the topic changes - change the subject<< >