Hi Mike,I looked in the Townslands & Town Book and I don't see li listed. Is that the right spelling? Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Morrissey" <muirgheasa@csicable.net> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: [TIP] Ballinastick > Would anyone be able to tell me the exact location of the townland of > Ballinastick in Tipp and what cemeteries might be nearby as well as > parishes? Possibly it was near Thurles....Also, what other governmental or > parish units it might be found in? Thanks. Mike Morrissey > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Online Tipperary Census: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/census_ndx.htm > >

Thanks Cindy. Ndhockey49112@aol.com wrote: > Liz: > > Glencallaghan is in the Clogheen Poor Law Union, so that is what should show > up in the index on the national level. If you are looking on the local > level, in Tipperary, then it will be in Buncourt. > > Cindy > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > >>> Watch those SUBJECT headings! When the topic changes - change the subject<< >>> > > >

Anacarty is right next to East of capperwhite. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather Quinlan" <hquinlan@nyc.rr.com> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:01 AM Subject: [TIP] Josephine Mahoney of Anacarty? > Hello there, > > I think I may have discovered that my g-grandmother, Josephine Mahoney > and her brother, Jeremiah (both born around 1880), came from Anacarty. > Their parents' names were Daniel Mahoney and Bridget Ryan. I don't > really know more than that--Josephine and Jeremiah eventually moved to > NYC, though Josephine died in her 30s in childbirth. > > Does anyone out there belong to this family or know anything about them? > And is Anacarty near Cappawhite, by any chance? > > Thanks! > Heather Quinlan > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Join us for a chat about researching families in Tipperary (and > everything else!). 'Open House Sessions' every Thursday/Friday (depending > on your location). Starting at 11pm Thursday Tipperary Time. This means > the time will be 11pm in England; 6 pm in New York and Montreal; 3pm in > California and Vancouver; 7am (Friday) in Perth; 10am (Friday) in Sydney; > 12 noon (Friday) in Wellington. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/chat/index.htm > >

Would anyone be able to tell me the exact location of the townland of Ballinastick in Tipp and what cemeteries might be nearby as well as parishes? Possibly it was near Thurles....Also, what other governmental or parish units it might be found in? Thanks. Mike Morrissey

The following info is from yesterday's: FreeSurnameSearch.com I hope it helps someone. Sorry if the URL comes out twice. Kathleen~CT. _Cemeteries.page_ (http://www.geocities.com/luanndevries/Cemeteries.html) _http://www.geocities.com/luanndevries/Cemeteries.html_ (http://www.geocities.com/luanndevries/Cemeteries.html)

Hello there, I think I may have discovered that my g-grandmother, Josephine Mahoney and her brother, Jeremiah (both born around 1880), came from Anacarty. Their parents' names were Daniel Mahoney and Bridget Ryan. I don't really know more than that--Josephine and Jeremiah eventually moved to NYC, though Josephine died in her 30s in childbirth. Does anyone out there belong to this family or know anything about them? And is Anacarty near Cappawhite, by any chance? Thanks! Heather Quinlan

Thanks Cindy. I thought I might send for the copy of marriage off the LDS film as it is an extracted record so therefore a copy of the register whichever church it is. I also feel that this is the man I am wanting just not too sure about the Margaret Butler being the 'Margaret' that appears as the mother of Mary Jane born 1831 in Tamil Nadu, India and James born in 1837 in Yorkshire. Also Cuthbert Jnr is born abt 1838 in Gibraltar. All army posting for the 48th Foot of which Cuthbert Snr was a Sergeant. He was pensioned out in 1842 on Guernsey from the Army. Now whether this is a late marriage I am not sure as I would have thought as an army man he would have shown up on the Chaplain and Military indices or Consular indices. He doesn't. So I am wondering if a first wife might have been an Indian or perhaps a Spanish woman. All supposition as Cuthbert Jnr's English marriage certificate only gives a father's name. Pity he didn't wait until he got out here to Qld and then we would have had all our answers. I could not find any mention of him on the Griffith Valuation but again I am not sure just where he was in 1851. He does not show up on any English censuses. Cuthbert Jnr enlisted in the 34th Regiment in Castle Fermoy in 1854. He was only 17 which is what got me thinking about the family being in Ireland. If Cuthbert Snr died in 1881 in Glen Callaghan what would I be looking for in the indices ie what registration district and the number for that district? And after looking at the BDM site I could not see how to order a €1.95 photocopy. Their prices for a photocopy of the death was €6. Liz Ndhockey49112@aol.com wrote: > Liz: > > I've got to think with a name like Cuthbert, this guy in the IGI is the one > you need! If the marriage was a non Catholic marriage, then in 1846, you > should be able to find the marriage certificate. It will list the place of > marriage, the witnesses, the occupation of both bride and groom, and the name of > the father of each. Not a lot, but some clues. If the marriage was a > Catholic marriage, then your only hope is the parish register, which will list far > less information, usually just the witnesses. > > Cindy > > > ==== IRL-TIPPERARY Mailing List ==== > Reminder! Remove (<snip>) as much of the Original Message as > possible when replying to a List Posting. Include just the part of > the original message important to your reply. > > >

Liz: Glencallaghan is in the Clogheen Poor Law Union, so that is what should show up in the index on the national level. If you are looking on the local level, in Tipperary, then it will be in Buncourt. Cindy

Liz: I've got to think with a name like Cuthbert, this guy in the IGI is the one you need! If the marriage was a non Catholic marriage, then in 1846, you should be able to find the marriage certificate. It will list the place of marriage, the witnesses, the occupation of both bride and groom, and the name of the father of each. Not a lot, but some clues. If the marriage was a Catholic marriage, then your only hope is the parish register, which will list far less information, usually just the witnesses. Cindy

Hi Everyone, I am new to the list and have decided to jump and ask help trying to decide what to look for next. I am seeking information on a Cuthbert PEASE who (according to a post to the list in 2002) was a parishioner of Glen Callaghan 1873-1880 where it cites him as dying in 1880. Also his wife Mrs Pease is listed. I found a marriage on the IGI for a Cuthbert PEASE in 1846 in Templetenny to a Margaret Butler and I am wondering if this is one and the same man. 1. Would the 1846 marriage certificate been in the form similar to the English certificates? 2. What is the best way of obtaining the reference number and photocopy of the death certificate in 1880? 3. Would the certificate give an occupation such as retired army sergeant or occupation? Anything to be able to cross reference to any information already held? Many thanks Liz Dolan

I am hoping that someone may have in their possession or know of, an old photo of the large house that was the home of the Augustinian Friars at the Abbey, Fethard, Co. Tipp. between about 1865 and 1951 when it was declared unsafe and demolished. The house was set back some distance from, and faced, the current Abbey rather than facing on to Abbey Rd and was arrived at via a long driveway that went past the Abbey gates. It was the home of my great great great grandfather, William Latham and his wife Jane from about 1820 to about the time of Griffith's Valuation c early 1850s. My great great grandfather who later came to Australia was born in that house in 1826. Between 1820 and 1830, William restored rightful ownership of the current Abbey church back to the Friars. I have contacted Father Houghey the current Prior who has a very faded photo of the now demolished house, that he is going to try to get copied for me. I am hoping that someone else may also have a photo or know of one that I may be able to get copied. Hope a photo is out there somewhere! Thanks Wendy

Christina; Thank you for your prompt reply. I'm pretty new to the email lists. Kay

Kay, It is not a website but an email list. http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/VINTAGE-PHOTOS.html You can subscribe by sending an email to: VINTAGE-PHOTOS-L-request@rootsweb.com Put the word subscribe in the body of the message. Christina On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 15:03:22 -0400 (EDT), KaySlainte@aol.com wrote: > I was unable to get on the Rootsweb Vintage Photos website. Did > anyone else have a problem? If not, what am I doing wrong? Thanks > for any help.

Christina; I was unable to get on the Rootsweb Vintage Photos website. Did anyone else have a problem? If not, what am I doing wrong? Thanks for any help. Kay C.

31st October 1857, John Ellis, land agent of Mr Trant, Dovea, was shot dead at a turn on the road, 200 yds from the Templemore-Thurles road, on the bye road leading to the Protestant church of Dovea. The Cormack Brothers aged 23 and 18 who lived near the said church and near Ellis's house were arrested and tried in Nenagh before the notorious Judge Keogh. As was expected they were sentenced to death and hanged on the evidence of 2 wretches, Spillane and Byrne. Byrne afterwards admitted that his evidence was perjured, and Spillane said in the witness-box that he would assassinate any number of men just for the asking. There were 11 Protestants and one Catholic on the jury: they deliberated for a whole night and into the afternoon next day before they brought in a verdict. The brothers were hanged in Nenagh Jail May 11th 1858. As if heaven disapproved, torrential rain poured down tearing up streets and roads, and never was seen and heard such lightning and thunder as on that day. The bodies were buried in the jail enclosure and there they remained till the jail passed to the Co. Council and was handed by them to the Sisters of Mercy. The nuns took care of the graves till a movement started in 1909 and culminated on 11th May 1910 when the Cormacks' remains were disinterred and brought to their native Loughmore. Fr. Tom Hackett P.P. being one of the principal leaders in the project. Two hearses with four horses each carried the remains, and a multitude of people formed a procession 3 to 4 miles long. The remains were laid in a vault planned by Fr. Hackett and executed by James Maher of Thurles, paid for by public subscription. Fr. Hackett delivered a memorable discourse and also John Dillon M.P. Other clergy present were Frs Bannon and Maher of Thurles, Fr. Russell and Fr. Pat Quinn of Templemore, home on holidays from San Francisco. Mary

17-8-1918 From an unknown newspaper. Mistaken Identity. Strange Story of a funeral from an Irish Asylum. A remarkable indident is reported from Bansha, Co. Tipperary. It appears that the wives of two farmers from the district, bearing the same surname, and who may be described as Mrs. A. and Mrs. B. were inmates of the County Asylum in Clonmel. The son of Mrs. A. hearing that his mother was ill, went some time ago to see her. Six weeks ago, hearing that she was dead, he and his friends went again to the Asylum and received the remains, which it is stated, had already been coffined, and which were buried in the family burial place in Bansha Churchyard. Afterwards there was a requiem Mass for the repose of the dead woman's soul. The other day when another son of Mrs. A. who is in England, and who had her life insured, applied for a certificate of her death, he discovered to his amazement, that it was Mrs. B. who had died. The remarkable fact is, therefore, that the wrong people went to the funeral, that the coffin was placed in the wrong grave, and that the relatives of the dead woman have been unaware until now of her death. Mary

Thanks for the help Christina. I have subscribed to the Vintage Photos list and have found a wealth of information about the photos in question and several others. Sorry my thanks are late in arriving. My granddaughter is leaving for college this week and I promised to finish the quilt for her room. She's also one of the reasons I do genealogy. Every fact I gather is duly recorded to be passed onto future generations. People like Christine, and many others on this list, enable me to find answers to family mysteries. Again, sincere thanks. Pat D ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <filidh@carolina.rr.com> To: <IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 8:35 PM Subject: Re: [TIP] Re: old photos > Pat, > There is a Vintage Photos email list that might be a help: > > http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Miscellaneous/VINTAGE-PHOTOS.html > > I, too, had a scan of an old photo and wanted to I.D. the time frame. After checking - I > learned that the photographer was listed on the back. I then found a listing of > photographers on an email list which listed dates that photographers were at certain > addresses in this state (Indiana). It narrowed down my search to a couple of years and > helped me feel pretty sure that the photo was of my great grandmother. > Good luck, > Christina > > > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 07:39:12 -0400, Albert D wrote: > > > > -----I have some old photos of 3 women sent to me by an elderly > > cousin. I have an idea who they might be but can't identify when > > the photos were taken to prove my theory. Does anyone know of a > > site that can give me some hints as to the dates of these pictures? > > Pat D > > >

Ireland 26th April 1864 Dublin April 24th. Two murderous outrages are reported in the Clonmel Chronicle. John Carey a tenant on Lord Derby's estate in Tipperary, died on Thursday last from the effects of a brutal assault which took place on the 7th inst, the weapon used by the assassin being a pitchfork. The deceased was 65 years of age. A man named Egan has been committed to prison charged with the offence. Near a place called Annacarty in the same County, 14 men, with their faces blackened, entered the house of a farmer named Thomas Quirke at midnight, and beat him and his wife almost to death. Notice was promptly given to the police by a little boy, who escaped through the roof of the house, but none of the party have been apprehended. Mary

15-6-1856 Clonmel Chronicle. Joey the Tailor. On Sunday, a deserter named Pollard, well known as "Joey the Tailor" had the temerity to go into the village of Ballingarry to drink in the middle of the day, remaining there until rather tipsy. Having got a hint that the Police had information of his visit, he went away on the Commons road, and stopped at a house of a man named Kelly, a carpenter. Constable Davis, with another followed, but Pollard bolted and a most exciting chase took place through Garrancola, in the direction of Lisnamrock, the fugitive being so hard pressed as to throw away his hat, coat, and shoes, while hundreds of people from the neighbouring country and village topped the surrounding hills as spectators of "the run". Pollard was overtaken, and arrested by the two constables, who endeavoured to bring him in the direction of Ballingarry, but the prisoner lay down, alleging that he was overcome with fatigue and feigned sleep. The police having again succeeded in getting him on his feet, he proceeded a little further, when one of his sons, coming behind Davis, threw his arms around his waist and flung him to the ground. The prisoner having procured a strong blackthorn stick, laid about him with such vigour, that the police found it impossible again to close on him, more especially as he was most ably seconded by his two sons, who send showers of stones at the constables. Davis being twice knocked down by blows received on the head, besides getting a severe wound on the right side of the chest. Against such odds it were vain to contend, and the police were obliged to return to their barracks. During the melee numbers of persons stood at a distance looking on, but did not interfere in either side. The deserted is a native of Ballingarry, where in the fighting times he attained such celebrity in that line as at length to become the acknowledged leader of the great Shanavest party whom he led against the Caravats in many a scrimmage. In 1848 he joined Mr. Smith O'Brien, and was present at the attack on the police at the Widow McCormicks of Farrinroy, commonly known as the battle of the "Cabbage Garden" where he received two severe bullet wounds. From that period he worked at his trade in Ballingarry, until the Spring of 1855, when he enlisted at Fethard in the 2nd Regt. Having remained a few months in her Majesty's service, it seems he got tired of the army when a subscription was set on foot amongst his friends at Ballingarry for the purpose of raising £20? Smart money to purchase him out of the service. The contributers were numerous, and the collection shortly amounted to £14-£15, but on arriving at that figure , Pollard deserted, and a report was circulated that he had spend the money emigrating to the West. He was however, much nearer home, and it was publicly known that he has since his desertion been working at his trade in the country around Ballingarry. Mary

24-5-1921 In a fight between Crown Forces and armed civilians at Upperchurch, Thurles, Co. Tipp. The rebel leader, a young man named Gleeson, was killed, and two wounded men were arrested. The Crown Forces are reported to have lost two members. 7-11-1839 County Tipperary. The village of Portroe was the scene of a wanton and brutal assault on the Police stationed there. A crowd of people having assembled on the evening of Sunday week, they commenced quarrelling. Constable Lalor and two policemen named Foley and Looney, came up, and ordered them to disperse, upon which the police were knocked down with stones. Lalor was wounded so severely that his life is in danger. Foley was also hurt, not to as great a extent as Lalor, who we fear will fall a sacrifice to the recklessness of life in Tipperary. On Sunday night three men who were drinking together in a public house in the neighbourhood of Mealiffe, three miles from Thurles; and although they had no quarrel, when on the way home two of them (Brothers) named Taylor, attacked the third named Fleming. The assaulted him with stones and a spade, and left him on the road insensible. When discovered, the unfortunate man said he did not know why they beat him, unless it was that he was not a Ribandman. On Sat. night, a man named Cusack, who was engaged at work in a yard at Bird-Hill, having had, a few days previously, some words of a trifling nature with another person, of the name of Keogh, was assaulted by the latter on coming into the yard, who took up a pitchfork and inflicted a deep wound with it on Cusack's head. Keogh then fled. Mary