Hi Cheryle, Your Bridget sounds to have taken the same route as my Ann BRYAN - she ended up in Rocky too. She was with a family by the name of KELLY, but dont know whether she met them in Rocky or came out from Ireland with them. Estelle >From: "Cheryle Judge" <cjudge@westnet.com.au> >Reply-To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com >To: <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Place of Emigration >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:48:44 +1000 > >Hi Estelle, >Have you tried "Ask A Librarian" in Brisbane? I haven't found my Bridget >leaving yet but may have found her into Rocky. They are very helpful >compared to NSW >http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/find/help/ask > >29 just nth of Hervey Bay >Cheryle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Estelle Daniels > To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:36 PM > Subject: [IRL-TIP] Place of Emigration > > > Hello List, > Could anyone tell me where would have most likely been the port or route >of > departure for a 16 year old girl leaving Ireland for Queensland, >Australia > as domestic help in 1873/4. She was born at Killenaule, Tipperary. > Thanks in anticipation, > Estelle > (in dry, rural Queensland) > > _________________________________________________________________ > realestate.com.au: the biggest address in property > >http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frealestate%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=754895450&_r=Hotmail_end_text&_m=EXT > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Want $250 of std talk, text & more for $49 a month? Go to http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fadsfac%2Enet%2Flink%2Easp%3Fcc%3DTEL217%2E31371%2E0%26clk%3D1%26creativeID%3D44933&_t=758220942&_r=emailtaglinetelstra&_m=EXT

Hi Estelle, Have you tried "Ask A Librarian" in Brisbane? I haven't found my Bridget leaving yet but may have found her into Rocky. They are very helpful compared to NSW http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/find/help/ask 29 just nth of Hervey Bay Cheryle ----- Original Message ----- From: Estelle Daniels To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:36 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Place of Emigration Hello List, Could anyone tell me where would have most likely been the port or route of departure for a 16 year old girl leaving Ireland for Queensland, Australia as domestic help in 1873/4. She was born at Killenaule, Tipperary. Thanks in anticipation, Estelle (in dry, rural Queensland) _________________________________________________________________ realestate.com.au: the biggest address in property http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frealestate%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=754895450&_r=Hotmail_end_text&_m=EXT ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello List, Could anyone tell me where would have most likely been the port or route of departure for a 16 year old girl leaving Ireland for Queensland, Australia as domestic help in 1873/4. She was born at Killenaule, Tipperary. Thanks in anticipation, Estelle (in dry, rural Queensland) _________________________________________________________________ realestate.com.au: the biggest address in property http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frealestate%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=754895450&_r=Hotmail_end_text&_m=EXT

Hi Jennifer, I don't actually know where you would get that information. Maybe if you tried the EPPI site, they have a lot of stuff on it, and will be uploading as much more around Christmas this year. Other than that I presume they may have something in the National Archives or the National Library in Dublin. Cheers Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "JenniferBantow" <jennifer.bantow@ncable.net.au> To: <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 7:13 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Clonmel Chronicle Jan. 20th. 1877. > Thanks for your wonderful transcriptions Mary. Do you know please how > I may be able to find out more about one of the Magistrates presiding > at the Thurles Petty Sessions mentioned, D.B.O'Brien? > > Jennifer > >>Clonmel Chronicle Jan. 20th. 1877. >> >>THURLES. Petty Sessions. >> >> >> >>Magistrates Presiding,-Samuel M. Going. (Chairman), M.J.Ffrench, R.M. >>Richard Power, D.B. O'Brien, Thomas.L.Cambie, and Lieutenant Colonel Knox. >> >> > Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>From what I have read, Cork was a common port of departure, especially for those from Tipperary. Wendy (Western Australia) -----Original Message----- From: irl-tipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-tipperary-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Cheryle Judge Sent: Monday, 25 September 2006 1:32 PM To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Place of Emigration Hi Estelle, My Dad's sister told me Bridget came with a girlfriend but I don't know her name and that for that time, she was "older" around 28. There is an Elizabeth Power as a witness on her MC, so I'm thinking maybe that was her as the Power name came from around the same area of Tipp as Bridget. She came about the same time as your one too. What ship did Ann come on? The Bridget the Library found was SS Potosi. She may still be "swimming" too, like her husband. Cheryle ----- Original Message ----- From: Estelle Daniels To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:56 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Place of Emigration Hi Cheryle, Your Bridget sounds to have taken the same route as my Ann BRYAN - she ended up in Rocky too. She was with a family by the name of KELLY, but dont know whether she met them in Rocky or came out from Ireland with them. Estelle >From: "Cheryle Judge" <cjudge@westnet.com.au> >Reply-To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com >To: <irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com> >Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Place of Emigration >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 14:48:44 +1000 > >Hi Estelle, >Have you tried "Ask A Librarian" in Brisbane? I haven't found my Bridget >leaving yet but may have found her into Rocky. They are very helpful >compared to NSW >http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/find/help/ask > >29 just nth of Hervey Bay >Cheryle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Estelle Daniels > To: IRL-TIPPERARY-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 2:36 PM > Subject: [IRL-TIP] Place of Emigration > > > Hello List, > Could anyone tell me where would have most likely been the port or route >of > departure for a 16 year old girl leaving Ireland for Queensland, >Australia > as domestic help in 1873/4. She was born at Killenaule, Tipperary. > Thanks in anticipation, > Estelle > (in dry, rural Queensland) > > _________________________________________________________________ > realestate.com.au: the biggest address in property > >http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Frealestate%2Eninemsn%2Eco m%2Eau&_t=754895450&_r=Hotmail_end_text&_m=EXT > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Want $250 of std talk, text & more for $49 a month? Go to http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fadsfac%2Enet%2Flink%2Easp% 3Fcc%3DTEL217%2E31371%2E0%26clk%3D1%26creativeID%3D44933&_t=758220942&_r=ema iltaglinetelstra&_m=EXT ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Bridget Lonergan, Housekeeper m Henry Taylor, Iron Moulder, 6 February, 1886, St Patricks Roman Catholic Church, Charlotte Place, Sydney, NSW, Australia Witnesses: Alexander Moar and Elizabeth Power Cheryle with 2 E's please http://members.westnet.com.au/cjudge/

Hi Chris, I thought we couldn't share if they WEREN'T MARRIED IN TIPPERARY. I have Bridget Lonergan's details of here marriage here in Australia. Regards Cheryle ----- Original Message ----- From: Christina Hunt To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:49 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] User Contributed Marriages I have added a couple of new Marriages to the User Contributed Marriages section of the IGP Tipperary website. Since this database is dependant on submissions, I want to encourage those of you with Marriage Records to consider sharing them with other researchers. See: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/tipmar/index.htm Or Baptisms: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/bap/index.htm Thanks, Christina chrisnina@gmail.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cheryle, That is correct. The info I was sent says they married in Cahir. I just got this marriage. Bridget LONERGAN was the daughter of William Lonergan. She resided in Cahir County Tipperary. She was married to William CAREW on 30 Jan 1850 in St. Mary's Cahir (R.C.)Their Marriage was witnessed by Thomas Carew, C. Keating. No one has disputed a marriage until now. email me offlist... Chris On Mon, 25 Sep 2006 09:41:37 +1000, Cheryle Judge wrote: > Hi Chris, > I thought we couldn't share if they WEREN'T MARRIED IN TIPPERARY. I > have Bridget Lonergan's details of here marriage here in Australia. > Regards > Cheryle > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christina Hunt > To: irl-tipperary@rootsweb.com > Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 3:49 AM > Subject: [IRL-TIP] User Contributed Marriages >

Murder of Irish Inspector.25-6-1919 The Times The murder of District Inspector Hunt at Thurles is the sixth murder of an Irish Policeman within the last few months. Like most of the other crimes it was comitted publicly in the full light of day, and the murderers made good their escape with out difficulty -. No one has yet been brought to justice for any of these crimes. At the inquest today the jury were at first not unanimous, but ultimately agreed to a verdict of "Wilful Murder". The latest news from Thurles shows that the murder of Inspector Hunt took place in the presence of a large crowd of people, and that the murderers, who wore no disguise, got clear away during the day. Mr. Hunt has been on duty at the Thurles races. In addition to the Police force about 60 soldiers were under arms on the course. When the races had concluded the Police and the Military were marched back to their quarters in the town. Inspector Hunt walked with Captain Smith, who was in charge of the Military, for a part of the way, and then continued the journey alone to the town. The roads at the time were thronged by the Country People returning from the racecourse, and the Inspector walked through the crowds until he had reached the square, which is in the centre of the town. Then three revolver shots were fired, and he fell on the road. One bullet entered the middle of his back, the second passed through his shoulder blade, and the third struck a schoolboy in the knee. The shots were fired at very close range. The crowd fled in all directions. The Inspector lived only for a few minutes. The Police and Military were called out for duty in the streets after the murder. Several houses were searched, and all licenced premises were immediately closed. Half an hour later the country people had left for their homes, and the streets were quiet. Inspector Hunt, was a native of County Sligo, had 26 years service in the RIC, and was promoted to the rank of District Inspector eight years ago. No arrests have been made. Mary

3-4-1909 From the Times. Lawlessness at Thurles. Shortly after 7 O'Clock last night a crowd of man, women, and children assembled in Tjurles and preceded with torch bearers and a man ringing a bell, they marched towards the Square. A house from which a tenant has been recently evicted was attacked and the windows and doors were smashed with stones. The police intercepted the crowd before it reached the Square. The people shouted defiantly, but were prevailed upon to to return to their homes. For disturbances which have recently taken place in the town a number of summonises have been issued, and last night a defence fund was opened and a house to house collection was begun. At Thurles quarter sessions yesterday, before County Court, Judge Moore, William Maher County Councillor, and his mother were awarded £180 compensation for the malicious destruction of a shed and 55 tons of hay. The evidence showed that the Estates Commissioners had divided two estates called Killoskehane and Barnane and that a good deal of friction arose in the district of Templemore as to who should get the land. A man named Donovan got a portion of the land, but an outcry was raised and he disappeared from the district. A cousin of the applicant next got the place, and when he went into possession drums were beaten around the holding, resolutions were passed, and hostile demonstrations were held. During the division of the lands the Estates Commissioner's Inspector, the applicant said, was guarded by 100 Policemen. Since the land has been divided parties gathered about the applicant's house at night, and shouted and made hostile demonstrations. Sergeant O'Connor, RIC. said that there 140 applicants for 45 farms. Judge Moore ordered the decree to be levied off the North Riding of the County Of Tipperary. Mary

2-5-1833 From the Times In the County of Tipperary, various offences, partaking more or less of a Whitefoot Character, continue to be perpetrated; for instance, two ploughs were burned on Friday belonging to a farmer's widow, named Haydon, who did not give up her land pursuant to a threatening notice. Minor offences of this class are continually occurring, but the Police authorities have been very active of late, and last week made a wholesale draught of offenders (In Co-Operation with the system of arrest adopted in Wexford and Carlow), by which, 22 individuals were committed at once to Clonmel Goal. These arrests are altogether distinct from those still made on account of Tithes, although carried out by the same constabulary. On the last fair day of Clonmel a great number of Tithe defaulters were arrested on warrants previously issued and placed in the hands of the Police, who only waited for such an opportunity of doing business on a great scale. The defaulters, however, seemed to have made up their minds on the impolicy of further passive resistance in the present state of things (and of thereby remaining "marked men" liable to the operation of imprisonment under the martial law system, and the tithe system too), for they brought with them the amount of the several Tithe decrees against them, and discharged the claims on the spot. The peasantry are frightened at the present aspect of affairs; how long their fight will last is a question yet to be solved. The poor laws, if speedily introduced, may do much, otherwise it is probable the old order of things, will soon be found on operation again,-coercion met by conspiracy, and severity by vengeance, whilst the heartless cupidity of Landlords, and the despairing destitution of tenants, will constantly cut out new work for the constabulary and the Legislature. Mary

Ireland ranked 13th in global wealth poll >From todays Sunday Independent. September 24th 2006 One in every 50 Irish households is accorded millionaire status, according to a new global wealth report by the Boston Consulting Group. The study found, that in dollar terms, almost 2% of households in Ireland were millionaires. Ireland is ranked 13th in the world, coming in ahead of Britain and Japan in the top 15. The United Arab Emirates topped the list, with 6% of its households making it into the "dollar millionaire" category.

I have added a couple of new Marriages to the User Contributed Marriages section of the IGP Tipperary website. Since this database is dependant on submissions, I want to encourage those of you with Marriage Records to consider sharing them with other researchers. See: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/tipmar/index.htm Or Baptisms: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/bap/index.htm Thanks, Christina chrisnina@gmail.com

Clonmel Chronicle Jan. 20th. 1877. THURLES. Petty Sessions. Magistrates Presiding,-Samuel M. Going. (Chairman), M.J.Ffrench, R.M. Richard Power, D.B. O'Brien, Thomas.L.Cambie, and Lieutenant Colonel Knox. An affectionate Son. An old woman, named Bridget Moloney, sued her son for the possession of a house, which he held from her as tenant from week to week. Plaintiff stated she let the house to defendant and his wife at 1s. per week; that she intended that they should all live together; but he was continually drunk and threatening her; on one occasion he struck plaintiff, and she now wanted to get rid of him-A warrant for possession was granted. A Vagrant. A man named Thomas Heffernan aged about 30, and stated he was from Cappamore, Co. Limerick, was charged at the suit of the guardians of the Thurles Union with being a vagrant, he having obtained admission to the workhouse on a ticket which he had received from the relieving officer. On being asked by the court what he had to say to the charge,he replied that "he did not give a d-n for a month"-He was sentenced to one month's prison with hard labour. Dog. A man named W. Moloughney was summoned for allowing his dog to wander on the public road without log or muzzle. Fined 2s 6p. and costs. Drunkenness. Sub. Constable Kelly summoned a man named Richard Ryan for being drunk and disorderly on the 10th inst., This was his third offence in 12 months. The Sub-Constable stated that when defendant was arrested his conduct was of the most outrageous description; It took five men to strip him of his boots when in the Barracks, as he was trying to break the door of the lock-up by kicking it. The magistrates were for some time deliberating as to whether they would send defendant to prison without the infliction of a fine. They ultimately gave him the option of paying a fine of £2 and or going to prison for one month. Defendant paid the fine.-Ten other parties were charged with a similar offence. Fines of 10s each were inflicted. In one case the accused failed to put in appearance, and a warrant was issued for his arrest. Edward Fogarty summoned Edward Banon for having, on the 17th. November last, encroached on the public road by removing a fence thereon. The complainant brought the charge in his capacity as road contractor.- The case was adjourned to allow time for the Defendant to repair the injury. The Court soon after rose. CAHIR Petty Sessions, same date. The usual Petty sessions were held in the Court-house before Col. S.F. Carew, J.G.Ffennell, and R. Grubb, Dr. Stokes and H.J. Bourchier. Lt. Grubb and Mr. Fosberry also occupied seats on the bench. Constable Cassidy, Rehill, charged John McGrath, Richard Burns, Richard McGrath, Philip McGrath, Thomas Burke and James Gibbins (Gibbons)with having assaulted and waylaid a man named Patrick English, at Rehill on the 6th. inst. The case of James Gibbins (Gibbons) was first gone into, and Patrick English, having been sworn, said he did not wish to prosecute, but the magistrates declined to allow the case to be withdrawn. Mr. Sargint appeared for the defendants. English then proved that Gibbons struck him several times , and then the rest joined in and struck him when outside the Public House of David Fennessy. The witness was cross-examined by Mr. Sargint, but nothing material against the direct evidence was elicted. David Fennessy, Publican was next examined, and swore that Gibbons knocked English down with a blow. Philip McGrath gave evidence for the defence, and swore that English "wheeled" for the English's, and Gibbons for the Gibbons, he did not see Gibbons strike English but he saw the latter bleeding. The bench thought the assault proved, and fined James Gibbons £1 with costs , or the alternative of 14 days in prison with hard labour. The charges against the other defendants were then heard, and John McGrath, Richard McGrath, Philip McGrath, and Thomas Burke were fined 10s each and costs, or 7 days in prison with hard labour. The case against Richard Burns was dismissed, as none of the witnesses could prove he hit English. The chairman remarked that if any of the defendants came before him again on such charges they would be severely punished. John Brien of Tincurry, charged John Cole and James Cole, with assaulting him with a Bill-Hook. There was also a cross-case against O'Brien for striking the defendants, and after the evidence was gone into, the bench dismissed the cases. Sub-Constable Kelly charged James Peters, of Kilnacash with being drunk in charge of a horse and and a car on the 9th inst. Defendant denied the charge, and Constable Ahern also proved to the defendant being drunk. Constable Mullany charged John Hynes with the larceny of a shirt from the Public House of Philip Ryan on the 17th inst. It appears from the evidence that Hynes was a tramp from Killarney and he went into the Public House of Philip Ryan, and asked permission to warm his hands. A "pot of clothes" was on the fire, and when defendant was leaving the house, a shirt was seen to drop from him as he accidentally knocked against a barrel outside the door. The police who heard of the case, soon after arrested the offender, and the case being proved, the offender was sentenced to two months in prison with hard labour. Constable Mullany charged Patrick Coffee, a drover, of Cashel, with having assaulted a man named Bishop, at the railway station, on the 15th inst. The constable proved that he saw the defendant running away, closely pursued by Mr. O'Mahony, Station Master, and that he with Constable Kelly, arrested him on the statement of Mr. O'Mahony, that he had wounded a man on the railway platform by striking him with a stick near the eye. The constable then, on the suggestion of the Station Master, went and saw Bishop whom he found to be severely wounded, and upon his identifying the defendant, he arrested Hynes. Mr. O'Mahony, on being examined, stated that he first heard, then saw, a row going on amongst cattle drovers at the station, and that as he wished to prevent such conduct, he sent at once for the Police. Witness also proved that he saw defendant strike Bishop on the head three times with a stick, after the first row was over. Thomas M'Gragh, porter was next examined. He stated that the defendant struck Bishop several times in his presence with the stick. Hynes was sentenced to 14 days prison with hard labour. The court soon after adjourned. Mary

Kay at KaySlainte@aol.com writes: > Is Nenagh and Newcastle close to each other? < Newcastle is about as far from Nenagh as one could get, and still be in County Tipperary <gr>. It's about 45 miles south-ish of Nenagh, and about 7 miles SW of Clonmel town. > Can anyone tell me the names of local RC churches in either place or do I need to pinpoint a townland? < The RC church in Nenagh is St. Mary's of the Rosary, and the parish webpage is: > http://www.catholicireland.net/parishes/parishdetails.php?ID=1042 <. The RC church in Newcastle village is Our Lady of the Assumption, webpage at: > http://www.catholicireland.net/parishes/parishdetails.php?ID=386 <. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Nenagh Guardian 27-5-1842 On Monday last Mr. Carroll, coroner, held an inquisition upon view of the body of Rody Kennedy of Loughane, who was found murdered in a field contiguous to his own house, on Sunday the 22nd. Inst. The cause assigned for this murder is not known, but it has not arisen from the taking of land, which is well known to be the fruitful source from whence have sprung those fearful crimes of which it has been the unpleasant duty of this journal to be the chronicler. The deceased was a man of excellent character, and was much esteemed and respected by his neighbour, as was evidenced by the peasantry assembling from various parts of Cloughjordan, to pay a last tribute to his memory. He was a widower, and has left 5 young and helpless children, living monuments of a peasantry's barbarism. The jury found the following verdict-"That the deceased came by his death in consequence of wounds inflicted by some person or persons unknown". We understand that seven persons have been arrested as being implicated in the commission of this murder. In the list of proscribed persons who have been served with Rockite notices is the caretaker on the lands of Kilboy, the property of Lord Dunalley. Mary

24-7-1837-Tipperary Constitution. At the Tipperary assizes on Tuesday, Patrick Carroll, William Carroll, Martin Shanahan, James Carroll, and Edward cane, were given in charge for the wilful murder of John Lanigan, at Fishmoyne, on the 14th of Feb. last. Several witnesses were in this case examined for the crown, and the jury, after having retired for about a half an hour brought in a verdict of guilty against all prisoners but William Carroll, whom they acquitted. The four unfortunate men convicted were sentenced to be hanged. James Cormick was given in charge for the wilful murder of Thomas Ryan at Lagginstown, in Dec. last. The jury retired about 2 O'Clock, and at 5'15 returned a verdict of gulity. The Chief Justice passed an awful sentence of the law, but did not name the day of execution. Denis Hogan was indicted for robbing the dwelling house of Mr. Thomas Brereton, at Rathurles, on the 10th of Feb. last, and putting John Brereton in fear. Guilty, to be transported. At the same assizes, on Wed. a man named Peters was found guilty of the murderous attack on Major Lidwell. Daniel Ryan was acquitted of the murder of Patrick Ryan. Jeremiah Ryan and James Ryan pleaded guilty to the charge of manslaughter. Mary

Hi Listers; I haven't found my great grandparents Thomas and Johanna Joyce Fihily/Fehily/Feeley before the birth of their first child in 1865 in Strancally, Waterford. I had a lead that the families may come from Nenagh. Following this I've been searching microfilms on Griffith's Valuation, Tithe Applotment and am now reading Rate Books. A cousin in Ireland said he possibly came from Newcastle in Tipp. I'm not familiar with Tipperary just learning. Is Nenagh and Newcastle close to each other? Can anyone tell me the names of local RC churches in either place or do I need to pinpoint a townland? Thank you for any assistance. Kay Fehily C.

Clonmel Chronicle June 24th 1865. More Extracts of Everything. An Irish Save-all. An Irishman, on being told that a newly invented stove would save him half the fuel he usually used, replied, "Arrah!, then I'll have two , and save it all, my jewel". Scene in Philadelphia.-Excited Orator, " We have taken Atlanta, we have taken Savanah, , Columbia, Charlestown, and now at last we have taken Petersburg and occupied Richmond, and what remains for us to take?". An Irishman in the crowd shouts "Lets take a drink". Mary

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