Hi Darryl, I have been trying to research ... Roger Kennedy and Ellen Connolly ... from Tipperary. They married in Melbourne in 1866. Roger's parents were .. Patrick Kennedy and Mary Carthy/ McCarthy or Carty ... Ellen's parents were Matthew Connolly and Mary Guilder ? ... on Roger and Ellens' marriage cert in Melbourne there were witnesses of two people, one named (someone) Fogarty and a Bridget Connolly. I am wondering if they all came from the same area in Tipperary ? I cannot find much information on them before Aust. cheers Maree Aus ----- Original Message ----- From: Darryl Scarff To: Rootsweb-Tipperary Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 4:47 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Hayes & Fogarty of Drombane My Tipperary connection is in the vicinity of the townlands of Drombane and Moyaliffe. My g.grandparents were Jeremiah ("Darby") Hayes, born 19 March 1833 ,....... son of John Hayes (of Drombane) and Catherine McCarthy (of Moyaliffe). And Winnifred Fogarty, born 13 December 1829, ........daughter of Jeremiah Fogarty (of Drombane) and Bridget Kennedy (of Drombane). My g.g.grandfather, John Hayes and his brother Thomas Hayes operated a "corn and tuck mill" on the local stream near the present day creamery at Drombane, which was located not far from the ruined remains of Drombane castle. The family were known as "Hayes of the mill". Members of all these families are buried in the adjacent Kilvalure church graveyard adjacent to Drombane and in the Upperchurch graveyard. Many of these ancestors emigrated to Australia in the period 1845-1860. Any information on these families would be appreciated. Darryl Scarff Australia _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My Tipperary connection is in the vicinity of the townlands of Drombane and Moyaliffe. My g.grandparents were Jeremiah ("Darby") Hayes, born 19 March 1833 ,....... son of John Hayes (of Drombane) and Catherine McCarthy (of Moyaliffe). And Winnifred Fogarty, born 13 December 1829, ........daughter of Jeremiah Fogarty (of Drombane) and Bridget Kennedy (of Drombane). My g.g.grandfather, John Hayes and his brother Thomas Hayes operated a "corn and tuck mill" on the local stream near the present day creamery at Drombane, which was located not far from the ruined remains of Drombane castle. The family were known as "Hayes of the mill". Members of all these families are buried in the adjacent Kilvalure church graveyard adjacent to Drombane and in the Upperchurch graveyard. Many of these ancestors emigrated to Australia in the period 1845-1860. Any information on these families would be appreciated. Darryl Scarff Australia

Jeanne, I always recommend bookmarking the email lists. This is for Irish list: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/IRL/ Christina On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 8:55 AM, Jean Pratt <[email protected]> wrote: > I have been told that there are additional Country Tipperary mailing lists.  Can someone please tell me the email address/es? > > Thanks for your help. > Jeanne > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have been told that there are additional Country Tipperary mailing lists. Can someone please tell me the email address/es? Thanks for your help. Jeanne

Thank you Christina for the IGP Archives website and for your vivid descriptions of your trip. I think we all need to win lotto so we can all return to our ancestral homes for a year or more. I have just been on the IGP site and quite unexpectedly when I clicked on Ballingarry and headstones the first photo was of the Ballingarry RC Church where my GGGrandparents Michael Kelly and Mary Corcoron were married in Jan 1959. How great is that. :-)))) The other thing I discovered in the Ballingarry section was the name Corcoron on one of the headstones. The Headstone--#12--ryan--john was "erected by Bridget alias Corcoron in memory of her beloved husband John Ryan who died Dec 9th 1843 aged 58". Is there any likelyhood she might be an Aunt to my Mary Corcoron? Or like my Sutherlands in Caithness could there have been thousands of Corcorons living in a very small area? Chris in NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Finn Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 9:09 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] IGP file update > I'm back. Actually I have been back for a couple of weeks but judging > by the suitcases still waiting to be put away, you would never know > it. <G> > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ > Click on TIPPERARY and Headstones. > > Christina > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.4/2080 - Release Date: 04/25/09 08:29:00

Estelle writes: === I was searching around for Killenaule, where my great grandmother was reportedly born, on Multimap this afternoon. I came up with 2 in Tipperary. To date I have not been able to find where her mother Mary NEIL/NAIL was born, as her records say that she was born "Kilmain, Tipperary". === Estelle, If I were a betting person, I'd choose the much larger and more populous Killenaule in S. Tipperary as a starting point. The Killenaule townland on your map image is the one in N. Tipp. It is a relatively small townland (even though it is divided into two parts by a civil parish boundary-line) and currently contains less than a half-dozen buildings. I'd guess that it was never densely populated. It is less than a half-mile from the Little Brosna River (which, as far as I know, has been the Tipp/Offaly border here for centuries), but is about six miles from the Kilmaine "way over" in Offaly. The Killenaule town in S. Tipp. had over 700 residents in 2002 (they lost a hundred by 2006), and has been a significant center for this area of the county even back into the 1800's. The problem here is the lack of a nearby Kilmaine. Sooooooooooo........I started fooling-around with alternative spellings/pronunciations. I first started with Kilmeen. No luck. Then the Kyle- locations. Nope. Then I went to the Cuil- townlands. Nothing there. However (if you're still with me [gr]), we could stretch-this all the way to Coolmoyne. It certainly doesn't look like Kilmaine, but it's possible that someone heard it that way and wrote it down as such. There are three Coolmoyne townlands, in a cluster, across the Rathcool and Tullamain civil parishes, about seven mile SW of Killenaule town. It's not the best answer I could wish for, but it's the only choice I can see. Perhaps someone else will have some better ideas. I certainly hope so......... Pete - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

Hi Maeve, I have found the primary reason for association with a particular parish for baptism (and marriages) seems to be through the female side of the family. The baptisms seem to occur in the wife's church. I have three families in the Moyaliff area that is in the southern most portion of the Upperchurch parish. One family went to Upperchurch for baptisms - the wife was from Glown, just west of the village of Upperchurch. The other two went to Holycross for baptisms, just to the east of Moyaliff. I believe the wives were from the Holycross area but Holycross is also a lot closer than Upperchurch so that might have played a role in the decision. There is a good chance that your Mary Maher was from Upperchurch parish. I have an observation about Thurles and your Dwyer's association with that parish. In my research I have found persons who were thought to be from Thurles or near Thurles or from the Thurles area were in fact found to be living elsewhere. Part of the confusion stems from the fact that Thurles is a town, a parish and Pool Law Union. The other part comes from the fact that Thurles was the market town for the area and sometimes people referenced their point of origin as Thurles because it was better known than the smaller surrounding townlands. Best Regards, Mike McGraw Austin, TX -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of mae bowater Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 6:10 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-TIP] Dwyer/Maher of Thurles i am researching the family of James O'Dwyer and Mary Maher from the Parish of Thurles. whilst in Tipperary in 2001 i found a family at the Tipperary Heritage Unit which matched this family but they were all baptised in Upperchurch, as these parishes are close in vicinity does anyone know if it is possible that would have gone to Upperchurch to be baptised instead of Thurles? these were the years 1831 to 1844. the children consists of Ellen, James, Daniel, John b1838, Ellen, Phillip who went to Ohio USA and Thomas. John my ggfather came to Victoria Australia 1858 at age 17. Daniel also came to Victoria c1859. John was literate and wrote beautiful letters which i have only just been shown. thank you for any information Maeve in Victoria Australia Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now. _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nenagh Guardian 5th June 1876. An amusing scene took place in Castle Street, Nenagh, today. A labourer named Murphy was summoned by the Receiving Officer for the support of his wife who was in the Workhouse. It appears that Murphy was a labourer with a local farmer, and allowed her something for her maintenance, but she soon grew tired of it, and in order to be avenged, entered the Workhouse with her two children. Having ascertained that her husband had been summoned, she then Cooley left the Workhouse. Today the case was heard, and as Murphy's master guaranteed 3/., a week to the woman, the case was dismissed. No sooner had he emerged from the Courthouse than his wife attacked him in the most determined manner. Having disencumbered herself of her cloak, she pummelled him right and left. Thinking discretion the better part of valour, he managed to escape, and ran away as fast as his legs could carry him, hotly pursued by his spouse, with a large stone in her hand, and calling him the most opprobrious names, such as "you Connaugh ruffian" etc. But Murphy was too swift, and left her behind. Married at 16 Lower Fitzwilliam Street, Dublin, by the Rev. Canon Chester, Rector of Parsonstown, Frederick Hugh Finch, of Rathurles, Nenagh, to Isabella, daughter of Thomas Saunders, Summerhill, Nenagh and late of Dublin. At Newport Petty Sessions, John Cormack, road contractor, had James Gray fined 2/., and costs for the trespass of an ass on the public road. The female children of the Nenagh Workhouse have been at last supplied with sun bonnets. At Nenagh Petty Sessions, Constable Hannigan summoned Margaret Tone for keeping a shebeen at Kilruane wood. This was her second offence. Chairman-You are liable to be fined £100, or sent to gaol for three months. Defendant-Transport me to another Country and let me die there. She was fined 10/. Edward Flannery, of Ballinacurra was fined 2/6 for drinking in Mrs Tones shebeen. At Lorrha Petty Sessions, Constable Toole, had Thomas Ryan, John Ryan and Martin Needham, summoned for an assault at Lorrha. Thomas Ryan, one of the defendants, who goes by the nickname of "The Crow" appeared with a damaged beak on the occasion. The worships having heard the cases fully, ruled that Thomas Ryan and William Larkin give sureties to keep the peace for 12 months. 2nd June 1879. At Nenagh Petty sessions in the case of Sub-Constable Timothy Carr against Patrick Power Sen., and Patrick Power, Jnr., for knowingly issuing base coin. Timothy Heenan, assistant in Miss Tumpane's Shop, gave evidence of the effect that the defendant got a naggin of whiskey and tendered a base half crown, in payment, the man said he got it in Cuddihy's shop. Power Sen., said he did not know what he was doing he was so drunk, he had been drunk the two previous days and he could not tell from whom he got the half-crown. The chairman said there was a great deal of base coin at present in circulation in the town. The Sub-Constable had Power Jnr., summoned for aiding and abetting. As he left the shop before his father had tendered the base half-crown the case was dismissed. In the father's case informations were ordered to be sworn. On Monday three men named Cross-a father and two sons-were waylaid and savagely assaulted at Singland (The famous black battery of the Limerick Siege of 1689) by neighbours named Hannen and Cunneen, who were determined to revenge and old grudge. The assailants have been arrested by the police. At the weekly meeting of the Clonmel Board of Guardians on Thursday, the land question was under discussion, when the extravagant manner in which farmers now live when compared with former years was animadverted on, and also the careless way in which their wives conducted their business. Mr. Bagnell said that he spend some months every year at his County Cork Residence at East Grove. Some years ago they got good cream and butter there, but when the old people died out their sons got fine handsome wives who were above their business and the butter became so bad that he now had to keep a dairy, at great inconvenience. 3rd June 1878. A sanguinary and savage fight took place on Sunday morning in New Pallas between two families. It appears that a feud of long standing existed between them. A dispute arose over the trespass of a cow, and in a few moments they were engaged in dreadful conflict. Stones, pitchforks, spades and knives were used with terrible effect. There were six men engaged on each side and for nearly three quarters of an hour the battle raged. The factionists are all comfortable farmers. Most of them received frightful injuries. The man who stabbed Bridget Clifford of Boolabane, in Daniel Quirke's Public House in the Silvermines on the 30th March 1871, has been arrested. He ventured last week to his old haunts thinking that no one would recognise him. But in this he was bitterly disappointed, for he met his destiny on the road in the shape of the veteran Constable, John Connolly of the Silvermines who at once accommodated him with a pair of handcuffs and free lodging in Nenagh gaol. The following children were awarded premiums at the annual examination of the Sunday Schools of Nenagh District- Fanny Austen, Nenagh. Stephen Mounsey, Ballymackey. Ellen Dagg, Templederry. Margaret Hodgins, Templederry. Frederick Hickie, Castletown. Lily Annesley, Nenagh. Lizzie Galwey, Kilodiernan, Grace Head, Ballinaclough, Frank Head, Ballinaclough. William Thompson, Cranna School. Fanny Bonfield, Cranna School. Maher Usher, Cranna School. Emily Fulcher, Nenagh. Twenty three prisoners reached here on Monday from the city of Limerick prison by the mid day train, to complete the respective periods of their several sentences in the Nenagh Gaol. The inference from these recent arrivals is that Nenagh Gaol will be made a district prison. There is not in all Ireland a building like it, holding a healthier position or better circumstanced. The death has taken place at 23 Columbia Street, Brooklyn, New York of Catherine Stapleton, said to be a native of Nenagh, and aged 63 years. 3rd June 1872. On Sunday, and effigy of Judge Keogh was burned in Cashel, in which transaction some volunteers of the North Tipp Militia took part. Afterwards the police were attacked by the Militia, one of the former receiving some severe injuries. The police barracks was next attacked with stones, and several windows were broken. The police appeared with loaded firearms, but did not fire. No further serious damage occurred. Married at Silvermines Church by the Rev A.A.Jones, Rector of Kilmore, Mr. Joseph Clarke, Ballina, Co. Tipperary to Jane, second daughter of Lake Mills, esq., Monarone, Nenagh. A shopkeeper from Nenagh was summoned last week by a farmer named Grace, on the ground that his shop assistant gave trefoil instead of grass seed to the plaintiff. It appeared from the uncontradicted evidence that the defendant refused to go out to see the trefoil growing where clover should have been, and after an enquiry of some duration, a decree was given for £4. On tomorrow at noon service, the handsome presentation of Communion Service and Alms Plates made to this Church by H.H. Poe, Esq., will be used for the first time. It is considered a suitable occasion also to have a special collection made. Margaret Bourke, Thurles, summoned Martin Gallagher, at the Thurles Petty Sessions, for leaving her employment before his term of service had expired. She said she had hired the defendant in November to work as a cooper for one year. She was to give him his board and £13. He left three weeks ago and went to work for another. The defendant denied having hired with the complainant for one year and as proof, stated he was in the Militia. The magistrates considering the case proved, sentenced the defendant to one month's imprisonment. Daniel Cawley, an inmate of Roscrea Workhouse Infirmary came before the Board of Guardians yesterday to complain about the nurse. The charges were considered frivolous, and a minute to that effect was made. 8th June 1874. On Tuesday morning there was a crowded attendance at the 6'30 morning train to see off Dr. Martin Cleary, son of the widow Cleary, of Castle Street, Nenagh, Daniel Tumpane, son of Mr. J. Tumpane, T.C. Nenagh, Henry Dagg, son of Mr. Thomas Dagg of Pallas, who were all emigrating to Australia. The Nenagh cricket club offered to give Mr. Tumpane, who was a member, a dinner on his departure, which he declined. On the leaving of the train, there was vehement cheering, and cries of "God save Ireland". Died on June 6th at the Silvermines, Nenagh, in the 22nd year of her age, Margaret, second daughter of Mr. Joseph Ryan. At Killaloe, Elizabeth, second beloved daughter of William and Elizabeth Hill, aged 19 years. Mr. and Mrs Carroll of Tulla have left Nenagh for the Continent. Mrs and the Misses Farrer have returned to Gurtalougha, Borrisokane, for the summer season. C.D.H. Webb, Esq., has left Woodville, Templemore for Conway Tce. Denbighshire, North Wales.

Maeve- To follow on the idea of baptism in the townlands, we have GGG Martin Maher baptized in Ballybristy (don't know what church yet), which is one of the townlands referenced, in 1811. We have an Elizabeth O'Dwyer pesent at that baptism, a sponsor, apparently. Maybe not much more today as I can't type much. But you get the idea. Mahers, O'Dwyers, townlands, little parishes in those townlands... > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:40:40 -0600 > Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Dwyer/Maher of Thurles > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live™ Hotmail®:…more than just e-mail. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_more_042009

Chris, I don't know. I leave those decisions up to the family searchers. <G> I am glad you found some things to enjoy on the site. We hope to keep building it up with the help of our friends. Christina | Headstone--#12--ryan--john was "erected by Bridget alias Corcoron | in memory of her beloved husband John Ryan who died Dec 9th 1843 | aged 58". Is there any likelyhood she might be an Aunt to my Mary | Corcoron? Or like my Sutherlands in Caithness could there have | been thousands of Corcorons living in a very small area?

HARDER to second guess the weather. Whe I retire I want to spend a year in Ireland. donkelly ----- Original Message ----- From: Christina Finn Hunt <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, 25 Apr 2009 21:09:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [IRL-TIP] IGP file update I'm back. Actually I have been back for a couple of weeks but judging by the suitcases still waiting to be put away, you would never know it. <G> We had a great time. It was just too short. I did not manage to get to all the places I had hoped. We did get to Tipperary. The only cemetery I made it to in Tipperary was at Rock of Cashel. (A beautiful sight incidentally and I had not realized that Hore Abbey is visible from the Rock of Cashel. While I was there I snapped away at the headstones. I knew we had Ryans in the IGP archives so I tried for other names. I have just uploaded the new stones start with #30 Heney and go to # 53. There is an updated text file too. I wish I could have gotten to more cemeteries but this was my only chance to see something of Ireland and it was still pretty rushed. My Limerick list will be mad at me because I missed Limerick. I am kind of mad at myself. I decided to try to see the Dingle Pennisula and on the way it started to pour so Dingle was out and the drive back was alarming. So, we should have gone to Limerick before the rain. I guess it is hard not to second guess yourself. To view the new Rock of Cashel headstones go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on TIPPERARY and Headstones. Christina _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Estelle and Clare, Located at Clareen is the Monastic site of Seir Kieran. Clareen is known as an Island Parish. Its in the Diocese of Ossory. It is said that it was once possible for the Monks to travel by boat from Aghaboe Abbey  located between Borris in Ossory and Ballacolla in Laois to Monastery at Seir Kieran. Part of Clareen possibly lies in Tipperary, near Roscrea. Regards Noel --- On Sat, 25/4/09, Clare Tuohy <[email protected]> wrote: From: Clare Tuohy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Kilmaine help please? To: [email protected] Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 4:52 PM Estelle The Kilmaine seen to the right of Killenaule on the map you linked is in Co Offaly just over the border of North Tipperary- the postal address is Kilmaine Clareen Birr Co Offaly. I think it could possibly have been referred to as Tipperary rather than Offaly in the early 1800's as I know the border between Offaly and Tipperary changed but am not sure when. You could post your message on the Rootsweb Co Tipperary list - Janet Crawford may be able to help more about border changes. The parish records could be in Birr in the diocese of Killaloe but I'm afraid their records only start in 1836 or so. Hope this is of use Clare ----- Original Message ----- From: "Estelle Daniels" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Kilmaine help please? > > Hello Listers, > > I was searching around for Killenaule, where my great grandmother was > reportedly born, on Multimap this afternoon. I came up with 2 in > Tipperary. > > > > To date I have not been able to find where her mother Mary NEIL/NAIL was > born, as her records say that she was born "Kilmain, Tipperary". > > > > If someone who knows the area in the following link, would they mind > making a comment whether they think the Kilmaine (to the right of the > Killenaule on the map) is in Tipperary; and if it would have been an area > that could have been noted as a birthplace? Mary was born in 1829, but > the record appeared on her Death Certificate in Australia in 1897. Her > Irish born daughter who had emigrated to Australia in 1873 was the > informant. > > > > http://www.multimap.com/s/iXOp6yuh > > > > If it is likely that a person was born in that Kilmaine - where would the > records be likely to be held? > > > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > > > Estelle > > (in rural Queensland, Australia) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Looking to change your car this year? Find car news, reviews and more > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 360 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Listers, I was searching around for Killenaule, where my great grandmother was reportedly born, on Multimap this afternoon. I came up with 2 in Tipperary. To date I have not been able to find where her mother Mary NEIL/NAIL was born, as her records say that she was born "Kilmain, Tipperary". If someone who knows the area in the following link, would they mind making a comment whether they think the Kilmaine (to the right of the Killenaule on the map) is in Tipperary; and if it would have been an area that could have been noted as a birthplace? Mary was born in 1829, but the record appeared on her Death Certificate in Australia in 1897. Her Irish born daughter who had emigrated to Australia in 1873 was the informant. http://www.multimap.com/s/iXOp6yuh If it is likely that a person was born in that Kilmaine - where would the records be likely to be held? Thanks in advance for any help. Estelle (in rural Queensland, Australia) _________________________________________________________________ Looking to change your car this year? Find car news, reviews and more http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT

i am researching the family of James O'Dwyer and Mary Maher from the Parish of Thurles. whilst in Tipperary in 2001 i found a family at the Tipperary Heritage Unit which matched this family but they were all baptised in Upperchurch, as these parishes are close in vicinity does anyone know if it is possible that would have gone to Upperchurch to be baptised instead of Thurles? these were the years 1831 to 1844. the children consists of Ellen, James, Daniel, John b1838, Ellen, Phillip who went to Ohio USA and Thomas. John my ggfather came to Victoria Australia 1858 at age 17. Daniel also came to Victoria c1859. John was literate and wrote beautiful letters which i have only just been shown. thank you for any information Maeve in Victoria Australia Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now.

I'm back. Actually I have been back for a couple of weeks but judging by the suitcases still waiting to be put away, you would never know it. <G> We had a great time. It was just too short. I did not manage to get to all the places I had hoped. We did get to Tipperary. The only cemetery I made it to in Tipperary was at Rock of Cashel. (A beautiful sight incidentally and I had not realized that Hore Abbey is visible from the Rock of Cashel. While I was there I snapped away at the headstones. I knew we had Ryans in the IGP archives so I tried for other names. I have just uploaded the new stones start with #30 Heney and go to # 53. There is an updated text file too. I wish I could have gotten to more cemeteries but this was my only chance to see something of Ireland and it was still pretty rushed. My Limerick list will be mad at me because I missed Limerick. I am kind of mad at myself. I decided to try to see the Dingle Pennisula and on the way it started to pour so Dingle was out and the drive back was alarming. So, we should have gone to Limerick before the rain. I guess it is hard not to second guess yourself. To view the new Rock of Cashel headstones go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on TIPPERARY and Headstones. Christina

Estelle The Kilmaine seen to the right of Killenaule on the map you linked is in Co Offaly just over the border of North Tipperary- the postal address is Kilmaine Clareen Birr Co Offaly. I think it could possibly have been referred to as Tipperary rather than Offaly in the early 1800's as I know the border between Offaly and Tipperary changed but am not sure when. You could post your message on the Rootsweb Co Tipperary list - Janet Crawford may be able to help more about border changes. The parish records could be in Birr in the diocese of Killaloe but I'm afraid their records only start in 1836 or so. Hope this is of use Clare ----- Original Message ----- From: "Estelle Daniels" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 10:24 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Kilmaine help please? > > Hello Listers, > > I was searching around for Killenaule, where my great grandmother was > reportedly born, on Multimap this afternoon. I came up with 2 in > Tipperary. > > > > To date I have not been able to find where her mother Mary NEIL/NAIL was > born, as her records say that she was born "Kilmain, Tipperary". > > > > If someone who knows the area in the following link, would they mind > making a comment whether they think the Kilmaine (to the right of the > Killenaule on the map) is in Tipperary; and if it would have been an area > that could have been noted as a birthplace? Mary was born in 1829, but > the record appeared on her Death Certificate in Australia in 1897. Her > Irish born daughter who had emigrated to Australia in 1873 was the > informant. > > > > http://www.multimap.com/s/iXOp6yuh > > > > If it is likely that a person was born in that Kilmaine - where would the > records be likely to be held? > > > > Thanks in advance for any help. > > > > Estelle > > (in rural Queensland, Australia) > > _________________________________________________________________ > Looking to change your car this year? Find car news, reviews and more > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fsecure%2Dau%2Eimrworldwide%2Ecom%2Fcgi%2Dbin%2Fa%2Fci%5F450304%2Fet%5F2%2Fcg%5F801459%2Fpi%5F1004813%2Fai%5F859641&_t=762955845&_r=tig_OCT07&_m=EXT > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 360 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Estelle, in the book of townlands and towns of Ireland there are 2 Kilmaine townlands and 1 town. One townland in King's Co. and one in Mayo. One town in Mayo. None in Tipperary. I'm not 100% sure of this but I think Laois, which borders Tipperary was called Kings County before it became Laois. If that was the case it is possible that part the Parish Kilmaine in Kings County, Parish of Seirkieran, Poor Law Union of Parsonstown could have included Tipperary. Also, there is a Killenaule in the Parish of Killenaue Tipp. North and one in the Parish of Loughkeen in Tipp. South. Both Poor Law Union of Cashel. Bob

Hi list I am trying to trace the family of Catherine Elizabeth Burke who was born in Tipperary, probably Thurles, in 1841. She died in 1945. She was a teacher and married a fellow called Zeno Sloan about 1867. For many years they taught in Dungannon. Indeed she continued teaching despite having nine children. Catherine's father, whose name I don't know, was also a teacher (her sons were named William, Richard, Isaac and James). Two eldest daughters are: Margaret Matilda and Mary. She may have had a younger brother who died young. Family rumour suggests that her grandfather (?) was called 'de Burg' and came from France.... Also that the family were originally Catholic but became Presbyterian over something to do with an intention to make Erse the language of ?elementary school instruction. Any pointers or suggestions as to how to proceed would help.

Hi all, does any one on list have Comerford of Grange Mockler in their line, or Kelly of Ballyneale. I have a Thomas and Margaret Kelly Margaret was nee Reardon. Laraine in Oz

Thankyou BOB On 4/24/09, Bob Ryan <[email protected]> wrote: > > Griffith Valuations > > Patrick Morris Tipp. North - none > " " " South - 4 > > Catherine Murphy Tipp. North - 4 > " " " Souyh - 8 > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >