You might have her hop a train to Dublin and check the records at the National Library or the Depository for all records in Dublin not sure of the name for this. The Tipp. Heritage Center will not let her use their reserach facilites, I already tried that last year. Good Luck Catherine Fitzgerald ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerald Tierney" <[email protected]> To: "margaret luck" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 7:08:00 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] TIPresearch places TRY THE THURLES LIBRARY IN THURLES-COUNTY TIPPERARY. TELEPHONE # IN IRELAND 405-29720 http://www.tipperarylibraries.ie/branches/thurles/index.shtml ASK THEM WHAT INFO THEY MAY HAVE RELATIVE TO YOUR RESEARCH. I HAVE USED THEM AND THEY ARE VERY GOOD On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:32 AM, margL <[email protected]> wrote: > > HI all, I have a friend who is going to Tipperary later this year and she > is wondering which are the best places to go and do some research.She was > quoted $A400 for someone to do some seaching for her but she thinks it would > end up being for information she already has.So if anyone knows of some good > and reputable places, I wouldbe happy to pass them on to her.thanks and best > wishesMargaret L > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Margaret I had some research done using the Limerick research center. I sent them all the info I had and that was a time savings for them and was a cost savings for me. My family was born in Birdhill, Tipp. and lived in the Limerick Parish of Kilcomety which is in Limerick. The Limerick center told me they contacted the Tipperary center for some of the info the provided for me. I have also used the Tipp. research center and Nora O'Meara has been very informative with her responses. You might ask the Tipperary research center what the cost would be if you sent them the Info that you have. It shouldn't cost you anything to ask. Bob

TRY THE THURLES LIBRARY IN THURLES-COUNTY TIPPERARY. TELEPHONE # IN IRELAND 405-29720 http://www.tipperarylibraries.ie/branches/thurles/index.shtml ASK THEM WHAT INFO THEY MAY HAVE RELATIVE TO YOUR RESEARCH. I HAVE USED THEM AND THEY ARE VERY GOOD On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 6:32 AM, margL <[email protected]> wrote: > > HI all, I have a friend who is going to Tipperary later this year and she > is wondering which are the best places to go and do some research.She was > quoted $A400 for someone to do some seaching for her but she thinks it would > end up being for information she already has.So if anyone knows of some good > and reputable places, I wouldbe happy to pass them on to her.thanks and best > wishesMargaret L > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HI all, I have a friend who is going to Tipperary later this year and she is wondering which are the best places to go and do some research.She was quoted $A400 for someone to do some seaching for her but she thinks it would end up being for information she already has.So if anyone knows of some good and reputable places, I wouldbe happy to pass them on to her.thanks and best wishesMargaret L

I realise that this is a very big ask but if anyone is visiting Dublin could I please beg a lookup to verify the following entries which the Tipperary Research Centre gave me and which may be mis-transcribed. I don't know if the original registers are available or just the index but it would be a great help in sorting out my great grandmother and her family. 1) Marriage on 6th Feb. 1853, in the Bansha/Kilmoyler Parish Register Reference1853/028 It is of Thomas O'Sullivan & Mary O'Connor (names maybe SULLIVAN AND COMMONS) 2) Baptism in the records of the Archdiocese of Cashel & Emly on the 18th November 1853 of Catherine SULLIVAN in the parish of Bansha/Kilmoyler. 3) Marriage on 25th January 1825, in the Bansha/Kilmoyler Parish Register Reference 1825/008 of John O'CONNOR & Catherine O'NEILL (could be COMMONS/CUMMINS) 4) Baptism in the records of the Archdiocese of Cashel & Emly Reference 1820/032 on the 24 Oct. 1825 of Mary O'CONNOR (could be COMMONS/CUMMINS). Cherie

I really don't know what I'm doing wrong here. I've just had success sending it to another of my emails by cutting and pasteing from the word doc i saved so will attempt that now. Hope someone finds it helpful as I have. Chris Hello all Most of you will still have those photo albumns where you lift the plastic up and put your photo in and put the plastic back on top, in your collections. Most of you will no longer have the negatives for those photos. Most of you will probably not have scanned them yet either. I know that there are such albums within this organisation. These albums are not archivally sound. In fact, they are dangerous to photos and documents stored in them. The adhesive on the page itself will seriously damage the photo, and the plastic is not an archivally inert plastic and will in time turn into a gooey gluey substance. I have seen, in the conservation laboratory, such albums which are a gooey mess. Below is advice from the National Preservation Office, which has come through the nzrecords listerv. If you cannot remove the photos, it has been suggested elsewhere that after scanning etc, the plastic is removed and the pages interleaved with acid-free tissue or release paper. Tiena Archivist The following advise is given Mark Strange, Senior Photography Conservator at The National Library of new Zealand. Making high-quality reproductions requires great care and Gareth Winter is quite right in recommending that the images be digitised without the plastic cover sheet between the prints and the scanner or camera. He's also right to advise that removing the prints from albums where the adhesive has lost its flexibility can be hazardous - and may need professional assistance. If the prints are difficult to remove, contact a member of the NZ Conservators of Cultural Material (formerly NZPCG). I would suggest that the sooner this happens the better. While magnetic albums do provide physical protection, they are one of a large variety of enclosure materials that contribute to the chemical decay of photographs. Sad examples include glassine envelopes or sleeves, rubber cement adhesive, sticky dots, double-sided tapes, folders and slide pockets made from PVC... this list is too long. Magnetic album pages have a clear overlay sheet (which is sometimes PVC) and the pages are coated with fine stripes of latex adhesive. Typically the adhesive discolours, loses its flexibility, and causes fading, discolouration or staining of the images. There are good alternative storage solutions than can maintain the original order, such as acid-free paper albums with photo-corners, or polypropylene pockets and binders.

Hi Folks Sorry about my first email on the subject don't know why that happened. I received this info from my local gene society and thought it might help someone as it helped me. I have now copied and pasted the info and made it into a word doc and attached to this email. Chris in NZ

Morning Christina Knew that. but it is a bit early in the morning to get my head right. Apologies for my stupidity. Marion ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Finn Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 9:06 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Sticky Photo albums Again! > Marion & Chris, > You can't send attachments through the list. You can send them to > interested > individuals but not through a Rootsweb list. > Listowner. > > | > | Hi Chris > | > | What happened to the attachment, or is it just me that did not get > | it? > | > | Marion > | Melbourne > | > | > | ----- Original Message ----- > | From: "fabiochris" <[email protected]> > | To: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> > | <[email protected]> > | Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 8:07 AM > | Subject: [IRL-TIP] Sticky Photo albums Again! > | > | > || Hi Folks > || Sorry about my first email on the subject don't know why that > || happened. I received this info from my local gene society and > || thought it might help someone as it helped me. > || I have now copied and pasted the info and made it into a word > || doc and attached to this email. Chris in NZ > || _______________________________________________________ > || Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php -- > || ----------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, > || please send an email to > || [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > || without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > | > | > | -------------------------------------------------------------------- > | ------------ > | > | > | No virus found in this incoming message. > | Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > | Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.17/2095 - Release Date: > | 05/04/09 06:00:00 > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 31 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

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>From the Nenagh Guardian July 5th 1875. Tipperary still to the front. We are glad to find a North Tipperary man coming 6th on a list of successful applicants in the Civil Service Examinations for the Customs Department. Mr. Denis Darcy is son of Mr. James Darcy, of Killodiernan, and was formerly apprentice to Mr. O'Donovan at the Chrystal Palace, Nenagh. He is now under orders for London at a salary of £70 per annum, progressive up to £250 per annum. Mr. George Poe's newly appointed caretaker, on his grazing farm of Ballintotty, near Nenagh, met with a unpleasant reception a few nights ago. His windows and doors were battered with stones. The police are on the lookout for the perpetrators of this cowardly outrage. A poor widow and her daughter, residing on two acres of land near Roscrea, wished to dispose of their interest. Their landlord, George Fawcett, Esq, required the plot, but consented to give the market price for it. Mr. J.P. Mason, who was appointed valuater, placed the value at £80, which the above gentleman paid with cheerfulness. We see by the "Melbourne Gazette" that the following name has been added to the list of legally qualified medical practioners-Martin F. Cleary, M.D. Bundoora, formerly of Nenagh. At a place called Knockena, near Ennis, on Monday, a woman named McInerney died, in the 107th year of her age. She walked to the Kilrush butter market last Wednesday, a distance of five miles. On the 14th inst, a woman named Catherine Moffat, aged about 68 years, arrived at Thurles workhouse in charge of a relieving officer belonging to the Birmingham Union, England. The removal which was effected by a warrant signed by two of the Birmingham Magistrates, discloses a case of as harsh a nature as ever effected by the workings of this unjust and one-sided Act of Parliament. The facts of the case as stated by the poor woman herself, are as follows:--In the year 1828 she and her husband went to England, where they settled after some few years, in Birmingham. In this town they lived for 27 years until the death of her husband a few years ago. Three months ago, being in delicate health, she went into the Birmingham Infirmary for the purpose of obtaining medical relief. Last week she intended to leave, as she had been promised employment. But a warrant for her removal was obtained and she was deported much against her will, her only crime being that she was Irish. Her case will form the subject for a special inquiry at the next meeting of the Board of Guardians. Mary Lett, aged nearly 90 years, died at Portroe this week. On Sunday night, the shop of Mrs. Murphy, Publican, Cloughjordan, was broken into and about a dozen bottles of whiskey were stolen. July 6th 1874. At St. Mary's Church, Nenagh, by the Rev. W.B. Chester, Rector of the Parish, Thomas Marrow, Deputy Governer, Nenagh Gaol, to Jane Avice, only daughter of the late John Duggan, Lisnakea, Co. Fermanagh. Robert W. Biddulph, Esq., Surgeon of HMS "Lost Noibe", has returned from Halifax to his father's residence, Congor House, Borrisokane. At Borrisokane Petty Sessions, John Moran of Brocka, was fined 1/., for forgetting whether he was drunk or not when arrested, but on second thought, he supposed he was drunk. July 6th 1891. July 1st, at St. Andrew's, Westland Row, by the Very Rev. J. O'Malley, Adm., William P. Coyne, M.A. second son of Edward Coyne, Nenagh, to Agnes, second daughter of the late John Martin. T.C., St. Stephen's Green, Dublin. June 25th, Robert, fifth son of the late William White, Roscrea, to Elizabeth, youngest daughter of the late William Procter, Glashouse, Johnstown. At Mount St. Joseph Abbey, Roscrea, Thomas Butler, 27 Ranelagh Road, Dublin, to Sarah, only daughter of Patrick Kennedy, Cashel. At Newport Petty Sessions the adjourned case of John and Thomas McKeogh, Newport against Ellen Hough of Newport, for unlawfully burying her husband John Hough, in their burial place at Ballymackeogh, on May 30th was called. John McKeogh swore to ownership of the grave, together with two others in the same place, and said that it was in this particular grave his father (Martin McKeogh) was buried in 1883. Thomas Adams. Limerick said he was a cousin of the McKeogh's and said his grandfather had owned the graves in question. He had seen the grave where John Hough was buried, and he had no hesitation in saying it was the McKeogh grave. The Magistrates adjourned for a fortnight to give Ellen Hough an opportunity to have her husband's remains removed to another grave. At Newport Petty Sessions, Thomas Maher, a labourer, summoned Martin Vaughan, Turnpike Road, for sixteen shillings wages due. It took the bench a long time to decide the case as Vaughan's account was very inacurately written in his book, while Maher stated that he couldn't read or write, had his own account book, having a nought for a shilling, a sliver for a penny, and a cross for a halfpenny. He said he had never to do this before, but he had heard that Vaughan was a bit of a rogue, so he decided to do his own book-keeping. Maher was given a decree for five shillings and costs. At Newport Petty Sessions, Sgt. Bolster, Birdhill, summoned Laurence Murnane, same place, for having his premises open for the sale of alcohol on Sunday the 20th June. He found Mary and Catherine Teefey and Mary Ryan on the premises. It being Murnane's second offence in six months, the magistrates fined him £3 and an endorsement. The girls were fined a half crown each. July 6th 1885. Constable Fitzgerald of Templederry summoned John Hogan, of Cloghinch, at Nenagh Petty Sessions for keeping his house opened for the sale of liquor during prohibited hours on June 28th. Mr. Gleeson appeared for the defence, and argued that two of the four men found on the premises were bona fida travellers. The other two called in for their letters after Mass, as the postman was to leave them there to be called for. Hogan was fined 10/., and costs. Born on June 27th at Silverton, Nenagh, to the wife of Mr. P. Costello, Draper, Castle Street, a son. Died on July 4th at Castle Street, Nenagh, in the 56th year of her age, Anne, wife of Mr. John Dwyer, T.C. July 2nd at her residence, Barrack Street, Nenagh, in the 90th year of her age, Miss Mary Keane, for over forty years, Principal of a Female Academy at Nenagh. Tinker's Revels. There were seven summonses and cross summonses at Nenagh Sessions, between the tinware fraternity of William Street. Windows and doors had been forced in and broken and a free fight ensued between males and females on both sides. The result of the battle was that scarlet runners had to be issued for the attendance of the dispensary doctor. When the cases were called, there was no appearance, and the Chairman marked the cases no appearance. We hear that Miss Mary Keane, whose death is reported in our columns, has bequeated £1000 towards the erection of a Roman Catholic Cathedral at Nenagh, and £500 for the benefit of the Roman Catholic Diocesan College in Ennis. At Latteragh, on June 14th, the wife of George McCutcheon, gave birth to a daughter. At Mount Butler, Roscrea, on June 25th , the wife of George Mitchell, Esq. , gave birth to a daughter. William Butler, of Spout Road, and Pat Egan, Pound Street, were each summoned by Dr. Cahalan for neglecting to register the births of children. Mr. Nolan, solicitor, appeared for the Register General, and Dr. Cahalan proved both cases. Both were fined 1/., with 1/6 costs.

I finally got those County Tipperary tithe applotments online on my website. They include the civil parishes of Upperchurch, Templebeg and Uskane, all in the North Riding. I had a lot of trouble with the Upperchurch tithes because they include an area called Knockaboulagh Commons made up of three townlands, one of which is found in Upperchurch. There were two versions of the Upperchurch tithes and both included the townlands found in the Knockaboulagh Commons tithes. However, I could not find in my resource books any mentions of the townlands, other than the one mentioned. So, on the Upperchurch tithes webpage, you will find links to all four tithe applotments found for Upperchurch. Many thanks to Pete Schermerhorn and Michael McGraw who contacted me off the list with help. Also, thanks to Cindy for her suggestions. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

> > any chance this is Knockbulloge townland in St. Patricksrock civil parish.? Essentially part of Cashel town today? > Hi Cindy, good hearing from you. I started working on these yesterday and found in the Knockaboulagh book what looked like townland names running along side the page: Knockewoula, Knockellengough and Knockatoura. I recognize the last one as probably Knockatoora Commons in Upperchurch Civil Parish. Comparing the names from the three townlands with the Griffith's Valuation names, I found the most distinctively different names (other than all the Ryans) similar between Knockewoula and Knockcurraghbola Commons in Upper Church Civil Parish. I also found similarities between Knockewoula and Knockmaroe in Upper Church Civil Parish. What I plan on doing is transcribing the Knockaboulagh Commons section separately with a note as to where I found it and some of the similarities I found with the GV. I don't feel 100% comfortable of assigning it to Upperchurch Civil Parish. But, before getting this online today, I will check the GV for Knockbulloge, St. Patricksrock and see if I can find any similar names. Thanks for the suggestion. Thanks to all who have tried to help me. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Pat, any chance this is Knockbulloge townland in St. Patricksrock civil parish.? Essentially part of Cashel town today? Cindy

Sounds like KNOCKALOUGH which is found immediately adjacent to Upperchurch, about 1 or 2 kilometers away. Darryl Scarff Australia -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Pat Connors Sent: Thursday, 30 April 2009 8:19 AM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: [IRL-TIP] Knockaboulagh? I am currently transcribing some tithe apploments and found two pages labeled 'Knockaboulagh Commons', in the middle of the tithes for the Upperchurch Civil Parish. Another page at the end of the Knockaboulagh tithes says, 'Tithes of Cashel, extract from applotmens Book of Temple......'. I cannot make out the letters after Temple but they look like suhey. I cannot find this townland in the 1851 Townland index. I was thinking that the civil parish might be Templetouhy which has a townland called Boolaree but I might be just over thinking here. Can anyone help me out? I don't want to put the townland in a civil parish where it doesn't belong. Thanks in advance. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> > I wonder if this might be a commonly-used abbreviation at the time, for an > even longer townland name - Knockcurraghbola Commons ?? You might be on to something here, Pete. Later on today, I will check the names in the tithes versus the names in the Griffith's Valuation and see if there are some common ones and hopefully, your theory will be correct. It does make sense considering the spellings of townlands that I have found in the tithes. However, I have been doing these tithes for years and it is not uncommon to find a civil parish or part of a civil parish in the middle of an unrelated area. Thanks as usual for you help. Pat -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

Pat mentions: === I am currently transcribing some tithe apploments and found two pages labeled 'Knockaboulagh Commons', in the middle of the tithes for the Upperchurch Civil Parish. === Pat, I wonder if this might be a commonly-used abbreviation at the time, for an even longer townland name - Knockcurraghbola Commons ?? I don't know if this was a common practice at the time, but it would seem to be a good idea (assuming everyone in that area knew the abbreviation [gr]). It's located about it in the middle of the parish, a couple of miles or so WSW of Upperchurch village (I know you have the map). It might be worth thinking about.......especially if you don't find any (or many) of the longer-named version in the records. I don't have any coherent comments on the Temple........ placename yet. I'll let you know, if I get any ideas. Pete .................................................... Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts </HTML>

I am currently transcribing some tithe apploments and found two pages labeled 'Knockaboulagh Commons', in the middle of the tithes for the Upperchurch Civil Parish. Another page at the end of the Knockaboulagh tithes says, 'Tithes of Cashel, extract from applotmens Book of Temple......'. I cannot make out the letters after Temple but they look like suhey. I cannot find this townland in the 1851 Townland index. I was thinking that the civil parish might be Templetouhy which has a townland called Boolaree but I might be just over thinking here. Can anyone help me out? I don't want to put the townland in a civil parish where it doesn't belong. Thanks in advance. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com

I have just transcribed and added to the County Limerick section of my website, the tithes for the Uregare Civil Parish. More additions this week will include Ullid and Urlingford Civil Parishes from County Kilkenny plus for County Tipperary, Upperchurch, Templebeg and Uskeane Civil Parishes and for County Laois, Teacolm Civil Parish and Kilclooney and Mullaghbrack Civil Parishes, County Ardagh. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com