On Tuesday, May 26, 2009 9:12AM Jan said: > Are you saying that the Nenagh Guardian from 1900 to the present is online?< Hi Jan: Yes, some of it is on a site that is similiar to the ProQuest site in the states. What I did was go to the following website: http://irishnewsarchive.com/contactus.php which is the Irish Newspaper Archives headquartered in Dublin. I had previously gone to the Nenagh Guardian website and only found an archive for the past couple of years. I sent the Irish News Archive an email and got back the following from Philip Martin of the Archive (I had asked the question of what newspaper would cover North Riding Tipperary and the adjoining part of Kings/Offaly County): "The Nenagh Guardian would be your best bet, we should have 1900-current up by the the begiing of next week (currently we hvae 1950-2009). By August we may may 1838 -1899 as well." It is a paying website. Thank God they are making it possible for us to finally start newspaper searching in Ireland!! Mary Anne

In 1870 Connecticut a James Grimes, age 24, was living in the home of my Maher family. Other surnames also came through their home and those connected to them in the post-emigration censuses. Unfortunately I can't tell you the exact place. I'm scouring for that too. Grimes was not there after the 1870 census. -Janet On 5/26/09 5:58 PM, "Calhoun Joanne" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello List - I am helping a good friend who is visually impaired put together > some genealogy of her GRIMES and LEAHY ancestors c 1870 on. > > My friend insists that the families were from Thurles; however, the marriage > record I just found states Parish/District Moyne, Address: Lisheen and it took > place in the RC Church of Monynetemple. The ship records I found on > ancestry.com say the person was from Templemore. A mapquest search shows > Templemore to be about 15 km from Thurles. > > Your opinion please - would it be usual for people from Lisheen or Templemore > to say they were from Thurles? > > Is anyone researching GRIMES or LEAHY families from that area? > > Can anyone suggest a particular non-paying website that would have good > resources for that area? Have the RC church records been filmed by LDS? > > Thanks for any and all information! > Joanne > Massachusetts > USA > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Andrew .. thank you for your email to me regarding this matter. The reason I am interested in the Fogarty's is purely because there is a witness named Fogarty on my ancestors' (Roger Kennedy and Ellen Connolly) marriage certificate .. in 1866 at the Emerald Hill Catholic Church, in Melbourne. With a Bridget Connolly as their other witness. I was thinking that I could find out where my Kennedys came from .. if they were friends with the Fogartys. It says on the marriage cert that the Kennedys and Connollys came from Drum Co. Tipperary. Other than that I don't know for sure any other info. Nothing proven .. Also, Roger and Ellen Kennedy's daughter Mary-Jane Kennedy was married 13 Sep 1886, in the same St Francis Roman Catholic Church in Melbourne as you are referring to here. I am just going on gut feeling .. but I am sure they are all inter-twined somehow. cheers Maree ----- Original Message ----- From: Andrew Fogarty To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 5:10 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] For Maggie Heffernan about Fogarty-Dwyer baptism Maggie -- I have found the 1846 Fogarty-Dwyer baptismal record. It was in part 25 of my file. I was not as clever about my filing as I thought. Part 28 is still missing. I obtained the Fogarty-Dwyer record in January 1994. In the original writing, the record states that Catherine Fogarty, aged 17 days, was baptised on 26th October, 1846 with Roger Heffernan or possibly Haffernan and apparently Bridget Ryan as sponsors. The parents are identified ! as Thomas Fogarty and Catherine Dwyer of Collingwood. I have the impression that the rite was performed at Melbourne`s Saint Francis` Catholic church. The Reverend John J. Therry officiated. I have looked again at the disc work`s treatment of this baptism. The disc work says the sponsors were Roger Haffernan and Bridget Flynn. Regards, ! Andrew Fogarty Casino N.S.W. _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Maggie -- I have found the 1846 Fogarty-Dwyer baptismal record. It was in part 25 of my file. I was not as clever about my filing as I thought. Part 28 is still missing. I obtained the Fogarty-Dwyer record in January 1994. In the original writing, the record states that Catherine Fogarty, aged 17 days, was baptised on 26th October, 1846 with Roger Heffernan or possibly Haffernan and apparently Bridget Ryan as sponsors. The parents are identified as Thomas Fogarty and Catherine Dwyer of Collingwood. I have the impression that the rite was performed at Melbourne`s Saint Francis` Catholic church. The Reverend John J. Therry officiated. I have looked again at the disc work`s treatment of this baptism. The disc work says the sponsors were Roger Haffernan and Bridget Flynn. Regards, Andrew Fogarty Casino N.S.W.

Hello List - I am helping a good friend who is visually impaired put together some genealogy of her GRIMES and LEAHY ancestors c 1870 on. My friend insists that the families were from Thurles; however, the marriage record I just found states Parish/District Moyne, Address: Lisheen and it took place in the RC Church of Monynetemple. The ship records I found on ancestry.com say the person was from Templemore. A mapquest search shows Templemore to be about 15 km from Thurles. Your opinion please - would it be usual for people from Lisheen or Templemore to say they were from Thurles? Is anyone researching GRIMES or LEAHY families from that area? Can anyone suggest a particular non-paying website that would have good resources for that area? Have the RC church records been filmed by LDS? Thanks for any and all information! Joanne Massachusetts USA

Are you saying that the Nenagh Guardian from 1900 to the present is online?

I am looking for Spillanes in the same area. In my extended family I have an Edward Spillane who married Ellen Fogarty in the RC parish of Toomevara in 1876. Edward was supposed to have been from Coolderry, Ardrconey parish. I would assume that the Fogartys were from the Toomevara area. Jan [email protected]

Geralyn -- I fall well short of your familiarity with the area to the east of Templemore. I have mainly been interested in the area from Templemore to Toomevara. There is no Keyes link in what I know or suspect about my forebears. My strong impression of descent from John Fogarty and Mary Morrissey is the only Morrissey angle in my thinkng. I have not studied any Morrisseys. I am just relying on what is said in an Australian registration and what I have in a report obtained from a search office in Dublin. I like to think I have accumulated quite a collection of Australian government material in hard copy. I have a disc sent by an Australian research colleague setting out a massive record of Australian Fogartys on the basis of contributions by a lot of people here including myself.. I have not been to Ireland. I see in the disc work that various contributors or their associates have. I have done little delving into Irish records. The report from Ireland mentioned above sets out some tithe and valuation details. Six Fogarty-Brophy christenings are cited during 1831 to 1844. I have a paper copy in original writing of the register entry for my great-grandparents` marriage at Grenanstown in 1870. That came down from a close relative. I was aware of most of the details while the relative was alive. I was often seeing a typed chart dealing with all my lines in a basic way. I keep old family yarns in mind. The legends we hear seem to have a tendency to be true in a twisted-around way. You have to be wary when words such as first, only, most or last are encountered. I realise that the Cardens were a prominent family around Templemore. I think I have seen it said that Templemore Park was established by Sir John Carden. It appears that the Cardens succeeded the Butlers as a dominant force in the Templemore area. I know Templemore was a garrison town. An old yarn has it that someone in my family came to Australia as a military deserter. I have seen in independent material that the 11th Depot Battalion was transferred in 1865 to Newry and Enniskillen because of loyalty problems at the Templemore barracks. Regards, Andrew Fogarty Casino N.S.W. Australia

Do you have Shanahans from Foilaclera doon Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Franklin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] In response to Geralyn Barry`s posting on 24th May > Margaret Spearin wrote: >> Does anybody have any Morrissey family from Doon Cappamore area? >> >> Margaret >> >> > Margaret, I have a Catherine Morisey (probably Morrisey) as mother to my > great grandmother Ann O'Rourke Maher. On Ann's death cert, Catherine is > listed as mother and father as Ohin (Owen) O'Rourke. Ann was married > to my Great Grandfather Patrick Maher. > > Now---I don't know if any of the Morriseys were from the Doon area, but > a bunch of families from the Doon area ended up in Goodhue County, > Minnesota. These included Mahers, Franklins, O'Rourkes, O'Reillys, > Bentons and probably some others whom I don't recall at the moment. I'm > fairly sure that my Mahers were from the Doon area, and Griffiths shows > Mahers (I think Patrick) in Balboa townland. I'd have to look that up. > I think all these folks were from that general area. My paternal Great > grandfather, Martin Franklin was from the townland of Commanealine, > (Tipperary), when he married Bridget Kirby in 1862. Bridget was from > townland of Foilycleara (Limerick). > > Steve in Eureka, Montana > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Does anybody have any Morrissey family from Doon Cappamore area? Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Fogarty" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 11:04 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] In response to Geralyn Barry`s posting on 24th May > Geralyn -- > I fall well short of your familiarity with the area to the east of > Templemore. I have mainly been interested in the area from Templemore to > Toomevara. There is no Keyes link in what I know or suspect about my > forebears. My strong impression of descent from John Fogarty and Mary > Morrissey is the only Morrissey angle in my thinkng. I have not studied > any Morrisseys. I am just relying on what is said in an Australian > registration and what I have in a report obtained from a search office in > Dublin. > ! > I like to think I > have accumulated quite a collection of Australian government material in > hard copy. I have a disc sent by an Australian research colleague setting > out a massive record of Australian Fogartys on the basis of contributions > by a lot of people here including myself.. > I have not been to Ireland. I see in the disc work that various > contributors or their associates have. I have done little delving into > Irish records. The report from Ireland mentioned above sets out some > tithe and valuation details. Six Fogarty-Brophy christenings are cited > during 1831 to 1844. ! > > > I have a paper copy in original writing of the register entry for my > great-grandparents` marriage at Grenanstown in 1870. That came down from > a close relative. I was aware of most of the details while the relative > was alive. I was often seeing a typed chart dealing with all my lines in > a basic way. > I keep old family yarns in mind. The legends we hear seem to have a > tendency to be true in a twisted-around way. You have to be wary when > words such as first, only, most or last are encountered. > ! > I > realise that the Cardens were a prominent family around Templemore. I > think I have seen it said that Templemore Park was established by Sir John > Carden. It appears that the Cardens succeeded the Butlers as a dominant > force in the Templemore area. I know Templemore was a garrison town. An > old yarn has it that someone in my family came to Australia as a military > deserter. I have seen in independent material that the 11th Depot > Battalion was transferred in 1865 to Newry and Enniskillen because of > loyalty problems at the Templemore barracks. > Regards, > ! > > > Andrew Fogarty > Casino N.S.W. Australia > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I just received this info today in case anyone is interested: "The Nenagh Guardian.... should have 1900-current up by the the beginning of next week (currently we have 1950-2009). By August we may may 1838 -1899 as well." Mary Anne

Maggie -- I have examined your response posted yesterday to what I said about late natural events and other matters including old Tipperary links. I will go into some detail here concerning the convict ship voyage you mentioned, which seems to offer us some common ground to explore. It appears from some checking I have done that there is a Knockavilla just out of Dundrum. I recall that the present Senator Bill Heffernan was a member of Junee Shire Council in the 1980s and came to be in charge there. Bit of a loose cannon for his party at times in things he has said since going to Canberra. . Your "Havering" and Tenterfield references have turned my thinking back to something I started puzzling about a long time ago. I have long had an interest in that "Havering" voyage. I have seen that some of that shipment of convicts were working around Warwick in the Darling Downs in 1850 under assignment to pastoralists. I have a paper copy of a "shipping intelligence" piece which appeared in "The Sydney Morning Herald" on 9th November, 1849 announcing the arrival of the "Havering". The ship left Dublin on 4th August, 1849. The convicts experienced a rapid transition from summer into spring. I looked a long time ago at every name in a list of "Havering" convicts who reached Sydney on that occasion. Two men died en route. I have not seen either`s name. My great-great-uncle Michael Fogarty of Leyburn in the Darling Downs was christened in Templemore church parish on 14th January, 1836 and is said to have "landed at Sydney in 1849 at the age of 14 .... " He was married at Warwick in 1864, having apparently been a stockman at "Glengallan" near Warwick some years previously. I am descended from Michael`s brother John of Wagga. The parents were John Fogarty and Margaret Brophy. The register entry for Michael`s christening had Ballaheen as the parents` place of residence. I did not see any Fogarty in the "Havering" convicts list. I was also interested in the military party. No name of interest was seen in that category. In the original writing, I have a paper copy of a muster apparently compiled by the Sydney Harbour authorities detailing the "Havering" complement arriving on 8th November, 1849. It is said that there were 334 convicts. No-one is named. I saw all the names on microfilm at an archives office a long way from here There are said to be "Two Boy Sons of Prisoners". The record names the captain, surgeon superintendent and religious instructor. I see a Lieutenant Paterson in charge of eight unnamed members of the 11th Regiment. I see an Ensign M`Donald in charge of 30 unnamed members of the 99th Regiment. It is said that three females accompanied the 11th Regiment contingent and that a woman and a boy were with the 99th Regiment men. The 58th Regiment is mentioned too. There are said to be 10 rank and file accompanied by a woman. It is said there was a woman belonging to the 65th Regiment. I have an idea the names of all the convicts who survived are now accessible on the Internet. I am not aware of any Fogarty-Brophy birth after 1844. I will take the opportunity to mention something which perhaps will at some stage be found to tie in with what I posted yesterday concerning Patrick Heffernan of "Clear Hills" in the Temora area. The Comans and Ryan references give the impression that Patrick Heffernan was related in some way to the Heffernans dealt with in the preceding work. I have not seen anything supporting what the book said about Patrick Heffernan`s antecedents in Victoria. Now I get to something that intrigues me. There seems to have been a Roger Heffernan in Melbourne in 1846 related to or associating with a Fogarty family. I find myself wondering whether that was a brother of Patrick`s father. I will try to convey to you my reasoning on this question. The first message I posted on 20th May was addressed to Bill Maher. I said there in the third paragraph that it seemed likely to me that the Fogarty witness at an 1866 Kennedy-Connolly marriage in Melbourne mentioned by Maree of Hobart had come to Sydney from Ireland in December in 1839 by the ship "China" or was a son of someone who had done so. I said it seemed to me that the first name of the witness was probably Thomas. I now report that I have something in my records saying that a Roger Heffernan was a sponsor at the 1846 christening in Melbourne of a child whose parents were Thomas Fogarty and Catherine Dwyer. I know those people came to Sydney in 1839 on the "China" voyage to which I was referring in what I said to Bill. I told Bill I knew that some of the "China" Fogartys ended up in Melbourne. Thomas and Catherine to whom I am referring lived at Collingwood. That Thomas Fogarty was not living in 1866, but his nephew Thomas Fogarty of the "China" voyage was. He was a Melbourne resident in 1878. The "something in my records" referred to above is an item in an extensive compilation of disc work sent to me by a research colleague. The material also shows one Bridget Flynn as a sponsor. I have a 38-part paper file of Fogarty research. I have 37 parts of that file -- I am not just saying this, I did a careful tally several weeks ago -- together at a particular spot at my home. The missing part 28 -- containing 1994 material -- is somewhere under this roof, probably in a removal carton from a former home down south. The research colleague`s material dealing with the 1846 Fogarty-Dwyer christening cites a letter from me dated 5th February, 1994. It seems that was how he learned about the registration. I see "A.F. 5.2.1994 p. 2". I remember I obtained quite a few certificates from Melbourne early that year and that they revealed the presence in Melbourne of some of the "China" Fogartys I had detailed to the research colleague in some 1990 correspondence of which copies of part and references to the remainder are held in part 17 of my file. I remember that the certificates obtained in early 1994 generated correspondence to the research colleague. He was on the other side of the world. He has come back to Australia. I was thorough with my filing. I satisfied myself in the tally carried out several weeks ago that part 28 would contain the 1846 Fogarty-Dwyer registration. I have seen the occasional mistake in the vast compilation which has been released to me, but I do not suspect any misquoting in this case. Regards, Andrew Fogarty Casino N.S.W. Australia

I have waited a couple of years to hear some chatter on Morrissey families...finally I am rewarded. I have Timothy Morrissey of Lickfinn/Ballynastick marrying Ellen Bodely of Drangan on October 28, 1821 at Mullinahone. The family came to America in 1851 on the Western World, landing at New York and proceeding west to Wisconsin by 1856. Timothy died just before the ship docked or shortly thereafter. One member of this family, my GGrandfather Patrick, went west to Waseca County Minnesota with Ryans and Heffernons, with whom they had intermarried. Family lore has it that these Morrisseys were related to John Morrissey the prize-fighter, also known as Old Smoke. A second fighter to hold the heavy-weight championship, Paddy Ryan is also part of the mix...These folks were from the Templemore area. I doubt that I'm shedding much light, but hope springs eternal.... On May 25, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Steve Franklin wrote: > Margaret Spearin wrote: >> Does anybody have any Morrissey family from Doon Cappamore area? >> >> Margaret >> >> > Margaret, I have a Catherine Morisey (probably Morrisey) as mother > to my > great grandmother Ann O'Rourke Maher. On Ann's death cert, > Catherine is > listed as mother and father as Ohin (Owen) O'Rourke. Ann was > married > to my Great Grandfather Patrick Maher. > > Now---I don't know if any of the Morriseys were from the Doon area, > but > a bunch of families from the Doon area ended up in Goodhue County, > Minnesota. These included Mahers, Franklins, O'Rourkes, O'Reillys, > Bentons and probably some others whom I don't recall at the > moment. I'm > fairly sure that my Mahers were from the Doon area, and Griffiths > shows > Mahers (I think Patrick) in Balboa townland. I'd have to look that > up. > I think all these folks were from that general area. My paternal > Great > grandfather, Martin Franklin was from the townland of Commanealine, > (Tipperary), when he married Bridget Kirby in 1862. Bridget was from > townland of Foilycleara (Limerick). > > Steve in Eureka, Montana > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-TIPPERARY- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Mike Morrissey wrote: > I have waited a couple of years to hear some chatter on Morrissey > families...finally I am rewarded. I have Timothy Morrissey of > Lickfinn/Ballynastick marrying Ellen Bodely of Drangan on October 28, > 1821 at Mullinahone. The family came to America in 1851 on the > Western World, landing at New York and proceeding west to Wisconsin > by 1856. Timothy died just before the ship docked or shortly > thereafter. One member of this family, my GGrandfather Patrick, went > west to Waseca County Minnesota with Ryans and Heffernons, with whom > they had intermarried. Family lore has it that these Morrisseys were > related to John Morrissey the prize-fighter, also known as Old Smoke. > A second fighter to hold the heavy-weight championship, Paddy Ryan is > also part of the mix...These folks were from the Templemore area. I > doubt that I'm shedding much light, but hope springs eternal.... > Mike: Several families from the Doon area traveled to Wisconsin and settled for a short time around Waupun in Fond du Lac and Dodge counties. They would have been in this area circa 1856. You can check the Wisconsin census of 1860 for these areas and you may come up with a Morrissey. Later, they moved on and settled in the area of Belle Creek and Roscoe townships, Goodhue County, MN. I believe that Waseca county is just south of Goodhue Co. There were several Ryans among this group, some related to me. As for Morrisseys, I know nothing about the family, as far as my connections are concerned other than Catherine Morisey being a Great great grandmother. Steve

If anyone has an Ireland connection between Mahers and Morriseys, especially Morriseys that ended up in western Iowa in the 20th century, I would really like to know about that. I did not know that they came from that close together near Thurles. When I was a child in western Iowa in the 1950's, we had family friends named Morrisey- if all those people went all that way and ended up friends again in the 1950's, that would be really amazing. > From: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 19:59:14 -0500 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-TIP] Morrisseys > > I have waited a couple of years to hear some chatter on Morrissey > families...finally I am rewarded. _________________________________________________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd1_052009

Margaret Spearin wrote: > Do you have Shanahans from Foilaclera doon > > Margaret > *No Shanahans in my outfit, that I know of. I have sponsors, Keary (Carey)(Bridget's mother), and Shea, and assume all are from the Doon area. Steve* > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Franklin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 12:07 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] In response to Geralyn Barry`s posting on 24th May > > > >> Margaret Spearin wrote: >> >>> Does anybody have any Morrissey family from Doon Cappamore area? >>> >>> Margaret >>> >>> >>> >> Margaret, I have a Catherine Morisey (probably Morrisey) as mother to my >> great grandmother Ann O'Rourke Maher. On Ann's death cert, Catherine is >> listed as mother and father as Ohin (Owen) O'Rourke. Ann was married >> to my Great Grandfather Patrick Maher. >> >> Now---I don't know if any of the Morriseys were from the Doon area, but >> a bunch of families from the Doon area ended up in Goodhue County, >> Minnesota. These included Mahers, Franklins, O'Rourkes, O'Reillys, >> Bentons and probably some others whom I don't recall at the moment. I'm >> fairly sure that my Mahers were from the Doon area, and Griffiths shows >> Mahers (I think Patrick) in Balboa townland. I'd have to look that up. >> I think all these folks were from that general area. My paternal Great >> grandfather, Martin Franklin was from the townland of Commanealine, >> (Tipperary), when he married Bridget Kirby in 1862. Bridget was from >> townland of Foilycleara (Limerick). >> >> Steve in Eureka, Montana >> _______________________________________________________ >> Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.37/2131 - Release Date: 05/24/09 07:09:00 > >

Margaret Spearin wrote: > Does anybody have any Morrissey family from Doon Cappamore area? > > Margaret > > Margaret, I have a Catherine Morisey (probably Morrisey) as mother to my great grandmother Ann O'Rourke Maher. On Ann's death cert, Catherine is listed as mother and father as Ohin (Owen) O'Rourke. Ann was married to my Great Grandfather Patrick Maher. Now---I don't know if any of the Morriseys were from the Doon area, but a bunch of families from the Doon area ended up in Goodhue County, Minnesota. These included Mahers, Franklins, O'Rourkes, O'Reillys, Bentons and probably some others whom I don't recall at the moment. I'm fairly sure that my Mahers were from the Doon area, and Griffiths shows Mahers (I think Patrick) in Balboa townland. I'd have to look that up. I think all these folks were from that general area. My paternal Great grandfather, Martin Franklin was from the townland of Commanealine, (Tipperary), when he married Bridget Kirby in 1862. Bridget was from townland of Foilycleara (Limerick). Steve in Eureka, Montana

There were Heffernan's too in New Haven, particularly in relation to the Civil War. -Janet M. On 5/24/09 6:12 PM, "Laraine Dillon" <[email protected]> wrote: > Maggie and Andrew, > I am going to post a reward for any one who can match up our illusive > Heffernan's The Heffernan's of Young, Bega and Temora in Australia are the > same line. > > Laraine > (on the Gold Coast with huge seas and the Tempest be wild) > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

New to this list, but researching for a while, my group settled in New Haven County, Connecticut (where Rev. Bernard O'Cavanaugh was the first resident priest in the state). Geralyn, your reference to the Clonbuogh group interests me, particularly re John Maher (speaking of too-common names...). Although I have not come across the surnames Fogarty, Keyes, nor Reddin among my cluster in CT, there are other clusters that parallel the areas around Tipperary/Kilkenny/Laois and ending up together in the towns I am studying. Templemore was one of the "Maher towns" and one of the graves in my study references that place. Re Morrissey, I found this while reading recently, that in the development of the first Catholic school in New Haven, originating in the early 1800s, the longstanding teacher of the girls, until her replacement by nuns, was Miss Eliza Meagher. Her future husband, Patrick Morrissey, began teaching (the boys) about ten years after she began there, and he had a fairly long career as a teacher in New Haven. He was from Tipperary. There is, also, at least one Morrissey grave in my relative's small cemetery where many of the early immigrants are buried together. -Janet Maher (My earliest known ancestors were Patrick Maher and Anne Butler Maher.) On 5/24/09 12:52 PM, "Geralyn Barry" <[email protected]> wrote: > Andrew, you mentioned that the Carden brothers' mother was Ann Fogarty > of Oldtown, Templemore, whose parents were John Fogarty and Mary > Morrissey. Oldtown is west of the town of Templemore. Perhaps the names > Fogarty and Morrissey are too common in the area for there to be a > connection, but I have come across some people with those names in my > research of Keyes families who lived to the east of Templemore, in the > vicinity of Clonmore and Dromard. > > There was a large cluster of Keyes families living east of Templemore on > either side of the Tipperary-Laois border, many of whom emigrated to the > the US and settled in Paterson, New Jersey, about 13 miles west of New > York City. They all seem to have been related to one another in some way > and were probably related to my ggg-gmother Ellen Keyes (b. abt 1800), > who also came from that area. I have been tracing all the Keyes along > the Tipperary-Laois border, trying to figure out connections between > them. As part of that process, I have collected some records that > mention the names Morrissey and Fogarty. > > My ancestor Ellen nee Keyes resided at Clonbuogh (south of Clonmore) > with her husband Daniel Kavanagh in the 1820s-1840s before emigrating to > Paterson, New Jersey also. Griffith's Valuation shows a John Butler > leasing land (lot 7, Clonbuogh, civil parish Killavinoge, Co. Tipperary) > from the Earl of Carrick and renting houses on it to Patrick Fogarty, > Daniel Kavanagh, Mary Doolan, Catherine Dwyer and John Maher. There are > 9 additional listings in Griffith's for Fogartys in Killavinogue civil > parish, including Catherine (Ballysorrell Big), Michael (Clonmore), > James and William (Dromardbeg), Patrick and William (Glebe), Anne > (Gortnagowna) and Denis (Shanakill). Andrew, are you familiar with > Fogartys in this area, or is this too far east for you? The name William > Fogarty also appears in the 1824 Tithe Applotments for Killavinogue in > Clonmore and also in (Killavinogue) Glebe. > > There was a Keyes-Morrissey marriage in the Catholic parish of > Templemore-Clonmore, and several Morrisseys served as baptismal sponsors > in the same parish for their family and for the children of Martin Keyes > and Fanny Reddin, who emigrated to Paterson, New Jersey before 1850. I > posted those records to the list in 2006 - that post appears here in the > archives: > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/IRL-TIPPERARY/2006-08/1155485346 > in case anyone on the list is interested in Morriseys living around > Templemore. > > > Geralyn Wood Barry in Oregon, USA > > > Andrew Fogarty wrote: >> >> James Coman`s wife Margaret Fogarty had two brothers at Moruya. The parents >> are identified as Michael Fogarty and Jane Murphy. The Moruya Fogartys were >> from Lloydsborough near Templemore. The men -- Martin and Michael -- came to >> Sydney from Ireland on the ship "Empire" in 1853, naming Margaret as a >> relative residing at The Rocks in Sydney. It seems that Margaret paid 12 >> pounds under the remittance regulations. I do not claim those people as mine >> but a link seems likely. >> ! > Some brothers named Carden came to Moruya after landing from > the ship "Eliza" in Sydney as immigrants from Ireland in 1855. Their mother > was an Ann Fogarty of Oldtown, Templemore who seems very likely to have been a > sister of my great-great-grandfather. The Moruya Carden brothers` maternal > grandparents were John Fogarty and Mary Morrissey. Their mother seems to have > been born in about 1797. It seems she emigrated in about 1857 or 1858. She > went to Victoria. > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, Is there any documentation or other information regarding landlord assistance to their tenants to help them emigrate? I am particularly interested in Newcastle Parish, Co Tipperary landlords. Any guidance will be appreciated. Thanks, Sandra Hawley