One of the large estates around Thurles was the Trant holdings at Dovea .The Trant papers are available in the National Library - if you go to the NLI site http://www.nli.ie/en/homepage.aspx and search the manuscripts catalogue you will get a brief description of the Trant papers available. Another was the Carden estate of Templemore and a smaller branch at Barnane- There is a family history of the latter written by a descendant Arthur Carden . If you google Carden in both locations you may find more information. I expect other listers will be able to add some other estates. It may help if you had a specific time period for your ancestor, Clare ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemary Wake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 4:52 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Estates and land stewards >I would be grateful if someone could tell me which were the main > landed estates in the Thurles area. I am trying to track down an > ancestor whose occupation is given as 'land steward' - what did this > job involve? And are there any records? > > [email protected] > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 508 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

Mary, first of all, thank you for transcribing the lengthy articles. They certainly give us an idea of the horrors of ejectment. It is actually difficult to continue reading the articles. In the House and Tenure Books a Thomas Spillane of Aghnameadle no longer had lot #11. There was a note that said "house down since I put it on the map." I understand this means Thomas was ejected. I did find a Thomas Spillane who had married Honora Talbot in Toomevara living in West Hartlepool, Durham, England, at the time of the 1851 Census. It makes sense that this was the same Thomas. Question: Thomas had been living in Aghnameadle, while the newspaper article refers to Toomevara. I am wondering if Aghnameadle and Toomevara might have been interchangeable. I know that there is a town of Aghnameadle that is in the civil parish of Aghnameadle, but I think it is in the RC parish of Toomevara. Thank you, Jan

I would be grateful if someone could tell me which were the main landed estates in the Thurles area. I am trying to track down an ancestor whose occupation is given as 'land steward' - what did this job involve? And are there any records? [email protected]

Thanks Margaret, you're quite right, fuzzy thinking on my part - thought it might be over doing things a bit being on 2 for the same county but then there's more opportunity to find family connections that way. Chris in NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Spearin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary mailing lists > hi Chris > It depends on what you are looking for and where you are looking. for > instance if you have family Tipperary Clare Limerick etc you can post on > the > appropiate boards. I am on several boards including Limerick Clare tipp > cork > and many more too numerous to mention. why can you not have messages on > both? or all? > > Margaret > >> _______________________________________________________ >> Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.60/2166 - Release Date: 06/09/09 18:08:00

Hi Folks Yesterday I googled "Dowd" and went onto the "Dowd family gene forum" where I have found several messages left by a Margaret (magmorri) in 2001 who had a Dowd connection from Co.Kerry but was from Tipperary hence sending this query to both lists. I have emailed Margaret also but 2001 is quite a time ago so it's a long shot. I have a Jennie Dowd in my ancestry but know no more than that of her family. She is my 3xGGrandmother married to Dennis Nolan from Co.Kerry so maybe her family comes from Co.Kerry and then again maybe not. :-). Their son William was born in 1834 in the East Indies (Dennis Nolan was in the British Service there)and they had a daughter Jane. I have info that Dennis Nolan died in Co.Kerry but no other info about Jennie. Jennies son William Nolan married Mary Walsh in the Ballybunion Catholic Church in 1853 which would make him barely 20 and one of his sons (another) William Nolan came to New Zealand after a few years in Australia and is my GGrandfather. I would love to hear from anyone with connections to these Dowd, Nolan and Walsh families. Many thanks Chris in wintery New Zealand

Hi Folks A question??? --I am on this mailing list and have just seen and read some messages on the Co.Tipperary mailing list- is it a good idea to be on both (as I see some of you are) and send the same message to both lists for family tree inquiries. Thanks Chris in NZ

i forgot to say that Tipperary is devided into 2 sections North and South so they have 2 completely seperate heritage centres. Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "fabiochris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 4:05 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary mailing lists > Thanks Margaret, you're quite right, fuzzy thinking on my part - thought > it > might be over doing things a bit being on 2 for the same county but then > there's more opportunity to find family connections that way. > Chris in NZ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margaret Spearin" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 2:49 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary mailing lists > > >> hi Chris >> It depends on what you are looking for and where you are looking. for >> instance if you have family Tipperary Clare Limerick etc you can post on >> the >> appropiate boards. I am on several boards including Limerick Clare tipp >> cork >> and many more too numerous to mention. why can you not have messages on >> both? or all? >> >> Margaret >> >>> _______________________________________________________ >>> Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________________ >> Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Internal Virus Database is out of date. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.60/2166 - Release Date: 06/09/09 > 18:08:00 > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Chris This is Ireland and i have to say a lot of our information about our families that emigrated comes from abroad.NZ AU US so posting the same message on different boards is normal. The person viewing one list might not be viewing the other. My name is Margaret but i am not on the Kerry list i am on lists all over the world and if i think it is relevent to my search i will post on as many lists as possible to get a result. slan agus beannacht Margare ----- Original Message ----- From: "fabiochris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:54 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Dowd family from Co. Kerry I think > Hi Folks > Yesterday I googled "Dowd" and went onto the "Dowd family gene forum" > where I have found several messages left by a Margaret (magmorri) in 2001 > who had a Dowd connection from Co.Kerry but was from Tipperary hence > sending this query to both lists. I have emailed Margaret also but 2001 > is quite a time ago so it's a long shot. > > I have a Jennie Dowd in my ancestry but know no more than that of her > family. She is my 3xGGrandmother married to Dennis Nolan from Co.Kerry so > maybe her family comes from Co.Kerry and then again maybe not. :-). > Their son William was born in 1834 in the East Indies (Dennis Nolan was in > the British Service there)and they had a daughter Jane. I have info that > Dennis Nolan died in Co.Kerry but no other info about Jennie. Jennies > son William Nolan married Mary Walsh in the Ballybunion Catholic Church in > 1853 which would make him barely 20 and one of his sons (another) William > Nolan came to New Zealand after a few years in Australia and is my > GGrandfather. > I would love to hear from anyone with connections to these Dowd, Nolan and > Walsh families. > Many thanks > Chris in wintery New Zealand > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

hi Chris It depends on what you are looking for and where you are looking. for instance if you have family Tipperary Clare Limerick etc you can post on the appropiate boards. I am on several boards including Limerick Clare tipp cork and many more too numerous to mention. why can you not have messages on both? or all? Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "fabiochris" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 02, 2009 3:40 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Tipperary mailing lists > Hi Folks > A question??? > --I am on this mailing list and have just seen and read some messages on > the Co.Tipperary mailing list- is it a good idea to be on both (as I see > some of you are) and send the same message to both lists for family tree > inquiries. > Thanks > Chris in NZ > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I have just uploaded: Under Tipperary - Military Royal Irish Constabulary with a native county of Tipperary Sep 1852-Dec 1852 I hope to add more to this page, but it is a start. If anyone is interested in someone's height, please drop me a line. I will send it to you. I skipped that to make it go faster. :) Thanks, Christina [email protected] Ireland Genealogy Projects Archives http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Submission Form: http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/

13th March 1876. From the Nenagh Guardian. At Thurles Board of Guardians meeting, an inmate, named Mary Long, made an application for some assistance to emigrate to America, her passage having paid for by her brother. She has been in the workhouse since December 1867, charged to Holycross Electoral Division. On the motion of Mr. S. Butler, a sum of £3 was granted to her. 19th March 1877. At Middlewalk, near Cloughjordan, at the advanced age of 74 years, Mr. Edward Gavan, a respectable farmer. At St. Cronin's Roscrea, on the 15th inst, after a long illness, Grace, the beloved daughter of Frank Sheppard, Esq., in the 19th year of his age. At the meeting of the Thurles Board of Guardians on yesterday, it was unanimously resolved to advertise for nuns as nurses for the Workhouse Hospital. Last Saturday was the most sober St. Patrick's day remembered in Nenagh by the traditional "Oldest Inhabitant". What was seldom known before, the run was on claret, so if drowning the Shamrock was considered indispensable, the immersion took place in a drink very much in favour in Ireland a couple hundred years ago. We are happy to state that with one or two exceptions, which had their rise in some of the privates of the 53rd Regiment being drunk and disorderly, there was no disturbance of any sort in the town. At a meeting of Thurles Board of Guardians, a letter was read from the Local Government Board, approving of the proposed increase of tea in the dietary of the sick inmates in viz., two and half ounces of tea to each gallon of water. The elected Guardians for Nenagh for the coming year are:- John McCarthy, Tooreenbrien. Michael Meagher, Monanore. William McKeogh, Ryninch, Ballina. Michael Fitzgerald, Bantiss, Cloughjordan. Jeremiah Meara, Clashnevin. Ed. Coffey, Birdhill. James McGrath, Burgess. Ml. Gleeson, Carrigatoher. Hebe Geo, Garrowbane. Ml. Head, Dolla. Wm. Ward, Annaholty. Nicholas Roche, Ballinamona. Joseph McCutcheon, Boher?ody. Wm. Boland, Killeneave. John Green, Barna. Patrick Kennedy, Kilnafinch. John McDonnell, Pallasmore. Wm. Ryan, Templederry. James B. Kingsley, Riverview. A district Courtmartial was held at Templemore on Private John Sullivan of the 103rd Fusiliers charged with disgraceful conduct and the larceny of the property of his comrade. The charge having been satisfactorily proved, the defendant was sentenced to six months in prison with hard labour. Sullivan is a native of England. He has been about two years in the service. The death has taken place of the Rev. Peter Nolan, a popular Priest in Borrisokane, who was much respected by people differing from him in religious belief. He was about 62 years of age. Thomas Downes, the jockey who was so seriously injured at Newport races on Thursday, still lies in Barrington's Hospital in the same hopeless state. His spine has been so much injured by the horse going over him that he is paralysed from the waist down. We regret to announce by drowning, caused by the upsetting of a boat, and whilst endeavouring to save the life of a fellow officer, of Samuel Gason Going, VS, American Army, which took place a few days ago at WW Fort. Mr. Going was the youngest son of James Going, Esq., MD. Mount Harden, Mullinahone. 30th Oct. 1876. The cost of maintaining the 127 inmates of the Roscrea Workhouse and the 56 paupers in the Infirmary for the week, was £24-3-6. At a meeting of the Nenagh Board of Guardians, the porter coming into the room on business, Mr. Fitzwilliam Walsh noticed that he wore no neck tie, and asked if such an article was provided for him by the board. Mr. Walsh was informed that that, in addition to his salary, the porter was supplied with a suit of clothes. Mr. Walsh to the porter-It is the opinion of the Board that you should wear a neck tie. The porter seemingly surprised, rubbed his neck and chin rapidly. Chairman-He would get cold if he wore one. Mr. McDonnell-He's not used to a neck tie, this time of the year. Mr. Head-Let him grow a beard instead. The porter silently slided out of the room. Martin Lynch was charged at Borrisoleigh Petty Sessions with being drunk for the 6th time this year. Black Paddy Maher came forward to defend Lynch, and stated that their Worships ought to put the fine on the street tramps-a crowd of them had followed him through the town calling him names. He was ordered to pay or go to gaol. Martin said that he had tried the gaol before, and couldn't stand it. There were two many devils there. The fine was paid. 3rd Sept 1894. Births. August 23rd at Summerhill, Nenagh, to the wife of Dr. William Courtney, a daughter. August 26th at Castle Street, to the wife of Mr. Joseph Breen, a son. August 23rd at Cowall, Roscrea, to the Countess Edward O'Byrne, a son (John Edward). Deaths. August 22nd at Latteragh, at the residence of her uncle, Mary, second daughter of the late Bartholomew Fogarty, Templemore, deeply regretted. August 2nd in Chicago of smallpox, Thomas, youngest son of the late Mr. William Ellard, of this town, aged 27 years. August 27th at Brackna, James Walker, formerly of Cloughjordan, aged 90 years. Messrs Gleeson and O'Brien had summonses at Nenagh Petty Sessions against Catherine Coughlan, Ballyisheen, for trespass of twenty geese and three pigs on their pasture. Mr.O'Brien swore to finding the geese and pigs on the land and giving them up to the defendant. The bench imposed the ordinary fines. Constable Shevlin had James Hanrahan and some others summoned for allowing their pigs to wander on the public roads. The usual fine was imposed at Nenagh Petty Sessions. A challenge. To the Editor. August 31st 1894. Dear Sir, Having heard that a certain gentleman is anxious to make a match to walk any man in Nenagh, I now challenge him to walk me from Nenagh to Toomevara, five miles, for any reasonable amount, the time and place to be fixed by the backers on each side. Thomas West. We regret to record the demise of a well known personage, named Patrick Cawley, who, for upwards of 50 years, discharged the duties of night watchman at Tyone Mills and Premises. The deceased, who had just reached the century, had been in receipt of a pension from Thomas Riggs Miller, esq., J.P. for the past nine years, when he retired from the post of watchman and went to live with his friends at Ballinamona. The funeral, which took place yesterday, was largely attended. The undertaker was Mr. John Ryan, the expenses being defrayed by Mr. Riggs Miller.

For the last 20 years I have been trying to locate my HAYDEN/HEADON family in Tipperary. I had been given a copy of and old letter that said they lived at ‘Singleton’, but had found this place did not exist. I recently decided to see if it had been a transcription I had and if the original was still available. I was delighted to finally receive a photocopy and found that the place mentioned was ‘Singinstown’. Again I drew a blank when trying google until another researcher suggested that it was most likely St Johnstown. Names of interest are: Eliza and Rachael HAYDEN who married two RAWLINS brothers Eliza’s son William RAWLINS lived at Knockbritt House and Rachael.s son Edward went to Australia and died there in 1858 Margaret HAYDEN marr ? GABRIEL from Limerick Hannah HAYDEN marr ? NICHOLSON George Thomas HAYDEN the famous doctor in Dublin who died in 1857 If anyone has any connection with these people or has information about researching St Johnstown I would appreciate a reply. Thanks Margaret Parkes

Margaret, I paid a visit to St Johnstown (pronounced Sin-gins-town) a number of years ago in order to investigate possible Langley graves in a graveyard there. I failed on that mission but did meet two elderly bachelor brothers who owned the land surrounding the graveyard. To say they were characters, would be an understatement and I got very little information from them as they spent most of the time arguing and contradicting each other. However I seem to remember there were Hayden graves there. If it ever stops raining this summer it could make an interesting trip for me to see if there is anything there for you. Peter. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Clare Tuohy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] HAYDEN/HEADON - St Johnstown Margaret Just something else -you may have also found it - There is a Frank Millett on another Ireland board who has Millett ancestors from St Johnstown and is interested in Hayden Tipperary and has a few Hayden entries in his tree at http://guitarman.tribalpages.com/ Regards Clare ----- Original Message ----- From: "M & P Parkes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:44 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] HAYDEN/HEADON - St Johnstown For the last 20 years I have been trying to locate my HAYDEN/HEADON family in Tipperary. I had been given a copy of and old letter that said they lived at ‘Singleton’, but had found this place did not exist. I recently decided to see if it had been a transcription I had and if the original was still available. I was delighted to finally receive a photocopy and found that the place mentioned was ‘Singinstown’. Again I drew a blank when trying google until another researcher suggested that it was most likely St Johnstown. Names of interest are: Eliza and Rachael HAYDEN who married two RAWLINS brothers Eliza’s son William RAWLINS lived at Knockbritt House and Rachael.s son Edward went to Australia and died there in 1858 Margaret HAYDEN marr ? GABRIEL from Limerick Hannah HAYDEN marr ? NICHOLSON George Thomas HAYDEN the famous doctor in Dublin who died in 1857 If anyone has any connection with these people or has information about researching St Johnstown I would appreciate a reply. Thanks Margaret Parkes _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margaret Just something else -you may have also found it - There is a Frank Millett on another Ireland board who has Millett ancestors from St Johnstown and is interested in Hayden Tipperary and has a few Hayden entries in his tree at http://guitarman.tribalpages.com/ Regards Clare ----- Original Message ----- From: "M & P Parkes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:44 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] HAYDEN/HEADON - St Johnstown For the last 20 years I have been trying to locate my HAYDEN/HEADON family in Tipperary. I had been given a copy of and old letter that said they lived at ‘Singleton’, but had found this place did not exist. I recently decided to see if it had been a transcription I had and if the original was still available. I was delighted to finally receive a photocopy and found that the place mentioned was ‘Singinstown’. Again I drew a blank when trying google until another researcher suggested that it was most likely St Johnstown. Names of interest are: Eliza and Rachael HAYDEN who married two RAWLINS brothers Eliza’s son William RAWLINS lived at Knockbritt House and Rachael.s son Edward went to Australia and died there in 1858 Margaret HAYDEN marr ? GABRIEL from Limerick Hannah HAYDEN marr ? NICHOLSON George Thomas HAYDEN the famous doctor in Dublin who died in 1857 If anyone has any connection with these people or has information about researching St Johnstown I would appreciate a reply. Thanks Margaret Parkes _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Margaret You probably have seen this Hayden gravestone at http://www.igp-web.com/tipperary/cemeteries/misc_stones.htm If not it may give a clue. Clare ----- Original Message ----- From: "M & P Parkes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 5:44 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] HAYDEN/HEADON - St Johnstown For the last 20 years I have been trying to locate my HAYDEN/HEADON family in Tipperary. I had been given a copy of and old letter that said they lived at ‘Singleton’, but had found this place did not exist. _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Val, thank so much what I need to know is----- Why Johanna came out to Australia on her own and free she must have had some sponsor, or someone here. I have been chasing a Thomas Heffernan for years. I have always wondered WHY MY Michael Heffernan and family went to Nimmitabel in 1850 now I find Johanna was there so there is a connection. I need to know why she came out and who too I can not find her on any ships lists of immigrations lists so was she free after all and was it Thomas she came out to. Thanks so much for your assistance.Any thoughts greatly appreciated. Laraine in Queensland ----- Original Message ----- From: "val kenelley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Heffernan > hi lorraine. > Austrailian Vital Records. > Marriage of Johanna heffernan married to Morgan Thornton.Year 1836 Reg No > V 18369290 N S W > St Mary's Roman Catholic Church Sydney > ----------------------------------------------------------- > Christening of Morgan Thornton. > Reg year 1847 No, v 1847340164 > at Parish of cooma Monaro manaroo District Qeenbeyan, twofold Bay NSW > Roman Catholic > Parents Morgan & Johanna (does not give birth year here but in those days > they were not always near a priest > ---------------------------------------------- > There are other Thornton B & D but not to these parents, this disc went > to 1905 but i hope these are yours > Cheers Val in Aus > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

hi lorraine. Austrailian Vital Records. Marriage of Johanna heffernan married to Morgan Thornton.Year 1836 Reg No V 18369290 N S W St Mary's Roman Catholic Church Sydney ----------------------------------------------------------- Christening of Morgan Thornton. Reg year 1847 No, v 1847340164 at Parish of cooma Monaro manaroo District Qeenbeyan, twofold Bay NSW Roman Catholic Parents Morgan & Johanna (does not give birth year here but in those days they were not always near a priest ---------------------------------------------- There are other Thornton B & D but not to these parents, this disc went to 1905 but i hope these are yours Cheers Val in Aus

12th March 1877. From the Nenagh Guardian. At the last Cashel Petty Sessions, Timothy Dwyer was sentenced to six months in prison, with hard labour, for throwing two stones, one at Mrs Vernon Russell, and another at her dog while she was out walking. Married in Borrisokane Church, by Rev Freeman C. Gason, Samuel Reid of Killeen, near Borrisokane, to Maryanne, second eldest daughter of the late Samuel Stanley of South Terrace, Borrisokane. On Tuesday last, John Cormack, Esq., Coroner held an inquest on the remains of Michael Spillane, who was found dead on the road at Clonlen, about a mile and a half from Roscrea on Monday morning. Deceased was about 57 years of age and had been in the employment of the Rev. Mr. Costigan, C.C. of Bourney. The jury found that he came to his death from suffocation, by falling into some mud water on the roadside, and not by any other means. Died at the residence of his brother, Dr. Cashel, Toomevara, George W. Cashel, Esq., eldest son of the late Rowan P. Cashel, Esq. Died at Middlewalk, near Cloughjordan, at the advanced age of 74 years, Mr. Edward Gavan, a respectable farmer. 21st Sept. 1874. Thomas Lynch, representing himself as a nailer from Toomevara, was brought up by the police for drunkenness at Nenagh. Mr. Minchin, Governor of the County Prison represented the conduct of Lynch as outrageous. He had called Mr. Minchin 'a bloody Orangeman'. Lynch said he hadn't taken a drop for the past six months, until the present occasion when it set him mad. He was fined 10/- and costs. A circular was received by the Borrisokane Board of Guardians, from the Local Government, enquiring the age of Edward Nolan, who was recently elected to the office of Porter. Nolan attended, and said his age was 56, but he could not find his Baptismal Cert. He produced a letter he received from Rev. G. Corbett, stating the Baptismal books in the Chapel did not extend beyond 1827. The Board expressed themselves satisfied with the man's explanation. The death has taken place suddenly, in the midst of his religious duties, in St. Patrick's Church, Lowell, Massachusetts, of which he had been Pastor for over 25 years of Rev. John O'Brien. He had attained the ripe old age of 74. He was born at Ballina (Where John McKeogh now lives). He was admitted to the Priesthood of the Diocese of Killaloe, on Christmas Eve. 1828. He emigrated to America over to this brother Fr. Tom. O'Brien. His funeral oration was pronounced by Counsellor John Frederick Finnerty, who once resided in the neighbourhood of Nenagh. Sarah O'Brien, now Mrs Murray of Australia, has written to us to know if Patrick O'Brien, or anyone belonging to him is now living in Nenagh. Patrick O'Brien lived in Pound Street, Nenagh, and was a shoemaker by trade, and Mrs Murray is his granddaughter. Anyone having information on the subject and inclined to give it can send same to the Editor of the Nenagh Guardian. Denis McGrath, who left Dromineer, for America, twenty years ago, returned to find himself a stranger in in the place of his birth, with no one to give him a place to lay his old bones. Mr. Kennedy, Relieving Officer, said he thought he could get the man some employment that would suit him with Lord Dunalley. Mary McMahon, aged 15 years, applied to the Board of Guardians for admission to the Workhouse. She had been hired out to a small farmer, and left before her three months were up. She told her reason for leaving was that her master used to send her to steal the neighbours turf, and when she didn't get the turf, they asked her to strip a fence. She was ordered to go back to her employment and summon the farmer to the Petty Sessions if he ill treated her. 12th May 1872. The late General Sir John Lysaght Pennefather, K.C.B. G.C.B., whose death took place at Chelsea Hospital on Thursday, was born on the 19th September 1798, third son of the late Rev. John Pennefather, Rector of Newport, County Tipperary. He entered the army as Cornet in the 7th Dragoons at the age of 18 and was eventually appointed General on the 9th May, 1868. His name came prominently before the world while serving under the late Sir Charles Napier, at Scinde, when he commanded the Infantry Brigade of Meanee and was shot through the body. After that murderous battle Sir Charles called him: 'That noble, noble, soldier, Pennefather'. He was a gallant General of whom Tipperary may well be proud and his death has placed several families in the North and South Ridings in mourning. The well known Thomas Lanigan, appeared at the Templemore Petty Sessions last week in the novel character of complainant, charging the less notorious Thos. Griffin, alias 'Tom Dodge' with having assaulted him on Wednesday evening. Lanigan, with the usual unpredictability, asked and got the permission of the Bench to settle the case as Griffin was about to join the Militia. We have just received a letter from Mr. James Haugh, Castle Street, complaining that his tender for the saloon under the Stand House at Nenagh Races, though the highest was rejected, and a lower one accepted. The letter is too long for publication but we think that if the statements it contains are true, he has just cause for complaint. May, so far as it has run has been a most unseasonable month, with several heavy showers of snow. In the most elevated localities of the county, such as the Galtees, the mountains are covered in white. Almost every night brings a recurrence of frost, so sharp, that early potatoes are visibly checked; the fields and gardens exhibiting all the appearance of blight. The salary of Michael Gleeson, Relieving Officer, Templemore, is to be increased from £20 to £30 per year. One night last week a party of the gallant 98th Regiment attacked Tade Darcy in Spout Road and disturbed the quiet of Nenagh. Tade, half drunk as he was, seemed nearly a match for the lot. The application of Timothy Ryan and John Murphy to build a bridge over the river at Barnagore, on the road from Nenagh to Cappawhite at £95, was granted at the special road sessions of the Barony of Ormond last week. Twenty seven perches of the fence on Captain Otway's property at Lacken on the road from Silvermines to Borrisoleigh, will be repaired at £1.5.0., per perch, by Jeremiah Dalton and Thomas Maher. The Band of the Royal Irish Constabulary has been invited to take part in the forthcoming Boston festival. Sub Constable Hughes, Kilboy, and McGavern, Carrigatoher, both in Nenagh district, are about resigning. Sub-Constable Mohan, Portland, summoned a man from the Ferry, at Lorrha Petty Sessions last week, for assaulting Michael Walsh on the head with a four prong fork. Walsh was apparently driving at a furious pace past the man's house and almost killed his three children,. They were both fined 5/- each. A man named John Troy, residing at Clyduff, near Dunkerrin, while returning home from a funeral, was waylaid and badly beaten with stones by two men. It is stated that the offence is of an agrarian nature, connected with the tilling of some land which Mr. White Sunner lately took possession of in the King's County, and in which a relative of Troy's was interested. An account has been published showing the quantity of tea annually consumed in this Country during the present century. The duty has not been so low since 1856 and the average quantity consumed by each individual is now 3lb 15 ozs., per annum.

Rita, The train from Nenagh went to Limerick Junction and from there to Cork, Cobh, Galway, Waterford and Dublin. I would imagine they would have gone to America from Cobh. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rita Elkins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 12:17 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Train to Where? >> 7th March 1870. >> Three young men of the name of Armitage, who were leaving for >> America on >> Wednesday morning, accompanied to the early train by a number of >> friends, as >> is usual here. > > Mary or anyone, > Was there a "usual" port of departure that the train went to in the > 1870s? Thanks! Rita > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Joni, I don't have any more information on Martin or his siblings, Thats all was on the Guardian. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joni Vella" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 1:43 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Nenagh Guardian, 6 Mar 1871, Martin Hayden Thanks for your wonderful contributions Mary! The 6 Mar 1871 Nenagh Guardian mentions the passing of Martin Hayden , formerly of Nenagh, at Ballinasloe. This is the Martin Hayden for whom I am seeking additional information! He is my husband's gggrandfather!