Hi Mary Are your extracts available and searchable anywhere else on the net as I know I have missed many of them. Thanks Margaret

John . The Tipperary Family History Research [email protected] is a good place to start . They charge but are reasonable and thorough . I dealt with Pat Godfrey who bent oner backwards to help me . My Ryans were there approx same time as you . Mine were from Bansha and had an Ellen and a Mary , yes Ryan is a very common name but you never know . Have a look at http://www.connorsgenealogy.com./Tipp . Laurie Thompson Melbourne [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: J Hammond To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:58 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Farrell Carroll Ryan Hello, I'm new to this forum and so I'm posting my two separate unrelated queries. 1. Looking for deatils about Johanna (O')Farrell - born about 1847 Tipperary. Parents: F - William (O')Farrell; M - Johanna Carroll. Johanna (daughter) married James Hammond on 18/6/1871 at Gaffneys Creek, Victoria, Australia. I have no more details regarding these but have heaps on the James Hammond (my line) 2. Looking for details of Mary Ryan born about 1847 Tipperary. Parents: F - Patrick Ryan; M - Ellen ......... Mary Ryan married John or James Doyle on 21/5/1878 at Gaffneys Creek, Victoria, Australia. I have details of the descendants but nothing of forebears. Hope these bits of information can tie up a few loose ends especially the first query above. John Hammond Brisbane, Australia ********************** _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, I'm new to this forum and so I'm posting my two separate unrelated queries. 1. Looking for deatils about Johanna (O')Farrell - born about 1847 Tipperary. Parents: F - William (O')Farrell; M - Johanna Carroll. Johanna (daughter) married James Hammond on 18/6/1871 at Gaffneys Creek, Victoria, Australia. I have no more details regarding these but have heaps on the James Hammond (my line) 2. Looking for details of Mary Ryan born about 1847 Tipperary. Parents: F - Patrick Ryan; M - Ellen ......... Mary Ryan married John or James Doyle on 21/5/1878 at Gaffneys Creek, Victoria, Australia. I have details of the descendants but nothing of forebears. Hope these bits of information can tie up a few loose ends especially the first query above. John Hammond Brisbane, Australia **********************

Baptismal Record Search of the Parish of Knockavilla: Children of William Farrell and Catherine Hackett William Farrell ?????? 23rd Nov 1864 John Landers and Mary Landers Thomas Farrell ?????? 1st Nov 1865 Andrew McGrath and Horora Ryan Patrick Farrell ?????? 24th June 1868 Michael Fitzgerald and Bridget Walsh Bridget Farrell Bishopswood 5th June 1870 Cornelius O'Brien and Mary O'Dwyer Margaret Farrell Ballinard 26th Jan 1870 Denis Ryan and Joanna Farrell Valentine Farrell Ballinard 31st Oct 1875 Patrick Ryan and Mary Guilfoyle This may not be of much use to you John but I have a Joanna Farrell witness at the baptism of Margaret Farrell of Ballinard (Tipp)nin Jan. 1870. Regards Pete Farrell ----- Original Message ----- From: "J Hammond" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 12:58 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Farrell Carroll Ryan > Hello, > > I'm new to this forum and so I'm posting my two separate unrelated > queries. > > 1. Looking for deatils about Johanna (O')Farrell - born about 1847 > Tipperary. Parents: F - William (O')Farrell; M - Johanna Carroll. > Johanna (daughter) married James Hammond on 18/6/1871 at Gaffneys > Creek, Victoria, Australia. > > I have no more details regarding these but have heaps on the James > Hammond (my line) > > 2. Looking for details of Mary Ryan born about 1847 Tipperary. > Parents: F - Patrick Ryan; M - Ellen ......... > Mary Ryan married John or James Doyle on 21/5/1878 at Gaffneys Creek, > Victoria, Australia. > > I have details of the descendants but nothing of forebears. > > > Hope these bits of information can tie up a few loose ends especially the > first query above. > > > John Hammond > Brisbane, Australia > ********************** > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>From the Nenagh Guardian. 19th Oct. 1885. Mr. Edward G. Baird, who was for some years accountant at the Provincial Bank of Ireland at Templemore and much respected and esteemed there, has been appointed Manager of the Provincial Bank of Fermoy. A branch of the Munster and Leinster Bank will be opened in Nenagh on Monday week. Marriages. Oct. 15th John Moore, of Kilbannon, Ennis, son of John Moore, Esq. Coolfin, Banagher, to Dora Alicia, daughter of the late Michael Telford, Mota House, Ballinderry, Co. Tipperary. Oct. 15th Joshua Gardinder, Esq. District Inspector, RIC, Newport, to Alice, youngest daughter of the late John Hendy, esq. Baltinglass, and widow of the late Laurence Hargrove, Esq. Allendale House, Baltinglass. We are glad to note that Mr. William P. Coyne, son of Edward Coyne of this town, has successfully passed his second Arts examination in the Royal University of Ireland. At Roscrea Petty Sessions, John Treacy was fined 10/- and costs for assaulting a young man named Duggan, of Corville. Michael O'Brien, Publican, was fined £1 and costs for keeping his premises opened during prohibited hours. Edward Tuck was charged with using abusive language towards Patrick Cashin, by calling him an informer like Carey, and also a cow stealer. He was ordered to give bail to keep the peace for three years or a month in prison in default. The Rev. J.C. Triphook, formerly curate in Nenagh, has been appointed to a Parish in Clogher, near Enniskillen. He has held the post of resident preacher in Cashel Cathedral for some years past. We are glad to notice that Messrs Mark Quigley and Sons, painting contractors, Parsonstown, have been declared contractors for painting Newbridge and Mullingar Military Barracks. These contracts will enable them to give employment to some 50 journeymen, who would otherwise do little at this time of the year. At Nenagh Guardians, Relieving Officer Lee brought forward the case of a family of 12 named Carey, who had become wholly destitute, in consequence of being evicted from their holding at Foilduff, in the Abington division. The Chairman wished to know, in the absence of the Guardians of the division, what decision the board would come to. Mr. O'Meara asked the Relieving Officer if he had made himself acquainted with the surroundings of the case. Relieving Officer Lee replied that he had visited the place, and found the family had no place of living, as they had been evicted from their farm. Mr. Cooney asked to have the relief granted to them for a fortnight. Chairman-What amount will the board be satisfied to give?. Mr. Butler.-Anything less than a £1 per week is no good. Chairman-There has been no case like this before the Board since I became Chairman. Relieving Officer-Some time ago there were similar cases before the Board, in which relief to the amount of £1 a week was allowed to families who had been turned out of their holdings. The Board allowed £1 per week. 18th March 1872. Mr. J. Houston Sheehan, Clerk of Nenagh Union, attended today in the Board Room of the Workhouse, as Returning Officer, to make a scrutiny of the votes recorded of the Candidates of the three contested divisions. The results of the elections is that all the Guardians of last year continue in Office during the current year. Births. At Templemore Barracks, to the wife of Surgeon A. Humfrey, of the 98th regiment, a son. To the wife of Mr. T. McCarthy, Kilgurton, Ballymackey, a son. Mr. D. Darcy has bought a dwelling house at Cudville, Nenagh, for £70. Mr. Charles C. Foley was the auctioneer. As an illustration of the inveterate prevalence of the former evil, a correspondent mentions that, just now, "Doctor" Roughan, the bonesetter, and popular headmender for all Tipperary, has his hands full with three skulls, the sick owners of which live in the Drombane area near Thurles. Our correspondent makes the hopeful addendum that "Doctor" Roughan's three patients are progressing favourably under his celebrated restorative powers. The Templemore Town Commissioners have decided to present the family of the late John Connolly, Esq., with an address of condolence, illuminated and framed. Sub-Constable Kelleher had John Drennan summoned at Roscrea Petty Sessions for abuse and drunkeness. Complainant stated that when he was passing Drennan, he (Drennan) without any provocation, politely consigned the Sub-Constable to a place which would be a little to hot, to be altogether comfortable. Drennan stated in defence--"I was up all night going to America". The Magistrates, not accepting his plea, fined him 5/- and costs. The Nenagh Young Men's Christian and Literary Association adjourned its weekly meeting on Monday evening as a mark of respect to the late Mr. William Birney, whose melancholy death occurred last week. He was the eldest son of Dr. Adam Birney, of this town.

You can browse the archives of the mailing list. Mary Anne Smith Original Message: ----------------- From: M & P Parkes [email protected] Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2009 09:15:38 +1200 To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-TIP] Nenagh Guardian Hi Mary Are your extracts available and searchable anywhere else on the net as I know I have missed many of them. Thanks Margaret _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web LIVE – Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE

Feb. 9th 1851. >From the Nenagh Guardian. A Chase after Smugglers. During the last fortnight or three weeks the Excise Officers of Killaloe and other districts have been more active than usual in endeavouring to discover illicit distilleries and genuine potteen, but, owing to the ingenuity and dexterity of the illegal brewers, they baffled in many instances their efforts. On Friday week, from private information which we received, a number of "The Potteen Peelers"- by which cognomen they are generally known in this Country, commanded by their Officer, marched in different directions towards the house of a man named Cummins, residing at Garrykennedy, with the determination of being certain of making a good seizure:-but the movements of the revenue were observed, and in an instant the cry was raised of the "Gaugers are coming". Cummins and his wife were away from home, and there were only two boys and two girls in the house whose respective ages were between 16 and 18 years. With an extraordinary degree of agility they put on their backs four bags of malt, with which they ran to the banks of the Shannon, and having placed them in a boat, seized the oars and rowed with the utmost quickness. In a moment afterwards the police were in Cummin's house, in which, after a close search, they could not find neither potteen, malt, or any distilling apparatus. They then came to Garrykennedy Quay, and four of them with the Officer, jumped into the first boat they met, and went in pursuit of the fugitives, who were only a short distance in advance. A large number of persons assembled on the surrounding hills to witness the chase, which excited much laughter and a great deal of interest. The general impression was, that the boys and girls would be captured in a short time, from the fact of the boat being heavily loaded, and not possessing such muscular strength as the "Peelers", but, nothing daunted, and being determined not to give up until the last, they pulled the oars with renewed vigour, in which they displayed great skill. Having rowed over six miles, their pursuers were quite close to them. The spectators were shouting, "Now they're caught-they're caught, more's the pity". The boys and girls finding their strength unavailing when compared to their adversaries, they put the power of their minds to work, and accordingly faced towards "Hare Island", which is the most intricate part of Lough Derg, and through which it is very difficult to get, from its rocky and shallow nature, and in consequence of the circuitous course which the water takes. This was the last resource with the boys and girls, who got clear out of this island. In a few minutes afterwards the Police came to the spot, following the track of the boys and girls, and rowing powerful. In an instant they came in contact with a stone, which nearly upset the boat. Here they lost some time in shoving the boat of the rock, and then again ran aground, which gave them a great deal of trouble and much annoyance from the immoderate laughter of the spectators. Before they could get out of the place, the runaways were considerably ahead and landed safely at the Galway side of the Shannon. They conveyed the bags of malt ashore, and having secreted them safely, which the sharp eye of the gauger could not discover, they ran off through the Country, defying their opponents, who, on arriving, found nothing but the remnants of an old bag in the boat. Mary

Mary, I so love reading the stories from the Nenaugh Guardian that you transcribe to the list. They truly paint a word picture of the times. Mary Anne -------------------------------------------------------------------- myhosting.com - Premium Microsoft® Windows® and Linux web and application hosting - http://link.myhosting.com/myhosting

Thanks to Mary Heaphy for the wonderful "Nenagh Guardian" entries! Mary, are those saved on line somewhere? Thanks, Cathy

12th Sept. 1870. From the Nenagh Guardian. Over £100 has been collected in Nenagh for the wounded French soldiers of the War. The canvas of the town is in the hands of Mr. Anthony Nolan, Sen. It is understood that the High Sheriff of the County refused permission to the Nenagh Town Commissioners to hold a public meeting in the County Courthouse in aid of funds for the relief of the French wounded. However, in the subsequent canvas, even the humblest contributed to the fund, which is still growing. Constable John Moore, for many years stationed in Nenagh where he has received the highest consideration of the respectable classes, has been send to Lorrha station. Terence Kennedy, of William Street, Nenagh, died on Saturday, having completed a life time of 100 years. The "Toronto Daily Express" carries the death of Dr. John L. King, the eminent surgeon. Aged 32 years, he graduated 10 years ago, with high honours, from the Royal College of Surgeons, London, and since then has gained high renown in Toronto. His young wife is the niece of Mr. and Mrs. John Murray, Nenagh, and leaves one child. Mr. Johnston, of the firm of Metcalf and Company, has opened a highly respectable grocery establishment in Cloughjordan. At Borrisokane Petty Sessions on Wednesday, his application for a new licence for the sale of wine and spirits by wholesale was granted. The death of Marmaduke Warden Peakcock took place some time ago in Bombay. Aged 23 years, he was the youngest son of the late Rev. George Peakcock, of Holycross Glebe, Co. Tipperary. The unique cemetery of Lisboney is now surrounded by a stout wall of high masonry, thanks to the benevolence of the local landlord, the Hon. Otway Toler. The stout masonry is calculated for long years to come to be a secure protection to the remains of many generations who lived and died in Nenagh and neighbourhood. Edwin Sadlier, Deputy Clerk of the peace for the County Tipperary, announces the appointment of Christopher Smithson, of Behamore, as a process server for the district of Ballingarry in the division of Nenagh. The Roman Catholic population of Nenagh have presented Rev. John Hayes, C.C. with £200 to meet the heavy bill of costs which the Rev. Hayes has to pay in a case of assault alleged to have been committed by him on an elector at the February elections. The Borrisokane union have declared Mr. Humphreys, contractor for oatmeal at £12-10-0 per ton, and Indian meal at £9.5.0. Per ton. Joshua Tait was forcibly ejected from Corbally Schoolhouse, Roscrea, on Wednesday. Thomas Kinsella, bailiff, with some members of the Royal Irish at a convenient distance, came to the house and found that Mr. Tait had prepared for a siege, with fortifications of desks, school forms, blackboards, etc. He also observed that he intended "doing for the Rev. Mr. Eaton." The door was smashed by means of a sledgehammer and the house was soon cleared of everything. Constable Hicks, the intelligent Inspector, has been paying his appointed visit this week to the shops of the town where he found many instances of irregularity in weighing and measuring. Like most Irish towns, there are heartless full-blown bakers in Nenagh growing fat at the expense of the poor. The salary of Mrs Kennedy, fever-hospital nurse at Thurles will be increased from £15 to £20 per annum from next month. 3rd Oct. 1870 At the close of last week, Constable Stewart, a remarkably shrewd and discerning officer of Newport Station, succeeded in bringing to light a new rifle and bayonet of London manufacture, which were concealed in the house of a Mrs Ryan in the locality. The discovery indicated great cleverness in the Constable. We understand that a marriage has been arranged between Captain John Finch, Tullamore, Nenagh, and the daughter of Thompson Russell, Esq., of the firm of Messrs J.N. Russell & Sons, the eminent Limerick merchants and manufacturers. "A lady in waiting" writes-It is with much pleasure I inform you that before many days the shrill blast of the horn, and the loud shout of the hunter, will resound through the cottage glen of princely Rapla. With hounds sound, Horses healthy, Earths well stopped, And foxes plenty. Miss Hall, Mertonhall, Borrisokane, has recovered from a fall from her horse. A verdict in accordance with the evidence of Dr. Birney was recorded on Daniel King, newsagent, Castle Street, Nenagh, who died suddenly. At the head of a committee to open a corn market at Borrisokane are:- H.O.Saunders, R.H.Falkiner, E. Murphy. E. Saunders, Rev. F. Studdert, Rector. Rev. P. Nolan, P.P. (Shares £5 each). Acting Constable Thos. Clarke, Carney, transferred to Clonakenny, Sub Constable William O'Brien, to Ballymackey, Sub Constable Gorman to Kilkeary. Births. At Summerhill, Nenagh, on October 2nd, to the wife of Captain C.S. Murray, 72nd Highlanders, a son. On Oct. 2nd, at Newport, to the wife of Dr. Henry Dwyer, a son. A son, born to the wife of the late Mr. Arthur O'Leary, Nenagh. (Killed in train accident.). Died at Parsons town (Birr) aged 67, on the 30th Sept., Mr. John Hennessy, Professor of Music, for many years organist at Killaloe. Women for the first time voted at an election in the United States. It was for a delegate to Congress. There were 367 inmates in Nenagh Union, being 21 more than last year. Cost of provisions was £48-10-0, a general average of 2/6. For infirmary inmates the cost as 3/7, and the same for fever patients. Married at the Silvermines, by the Rev. A. Jones, James McCutcheon, of Castle Street, Nenagh, to Mary, only daughter of the late John Comerford, Kilmore House, Nenagh.

Mary, the article by the Editor had to be the most hilarious bit of tongue-in-cheek writing I've seen in a long time. I can just picture this harried man, trying to read some of the correspondence and throwing up his hands in disgust. So, taking pen in hand, he was going to show them the error of their ways. Just wonderful! Thanks for printing it. Terry Bora in Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Heaphy" <[email protected]> Nenagh Guardian. .17th March 1879. <<<<<To Prospective Correspondents. "Never write with pen or ink. It is altogether too plain, and does not hold the mind of the editor and printer closely enough in their work. If you are compelled to use ink never use that vulgarity known as the blotting pad. If you drop a blot of ink on the paper, lick it off. Don't *puctuate*!. We prefer to puctuate all manuscripts send to us. And don't use capitals. Then we can pucuate and capitalize to suit ourselves, and your article, when you see it in print, will astonish, even if it doesn't please you. Don't write too plainly. It is a sign of plebian origin and state school breeding. Poor writing is an indication of genius. It is about the only indication of genius that great men possess. Scrawl your article with your eyes shut, and make every word as illegible as you can. Always write on both sides of the paper. Lay your paper on the ground when you write: the rougher the ground the better. Coarse brown wrapping paper is the best for writing your article on. If you can tear down an old circus poster and write on the pasty side, it will be still better. When your article is completed crunch your paper in your pocket, and carry it around two or three days before you post it. This rubs off all superfluous pencil marks and makes it lighter to handle. If you can think of it, lose one page out of the middle of your article. We can easily supply what is missing, and we love to do so. We have nothing better to do". Editor.>>>> _______________________________________________________

Good afternoon Tina, I'm not sure if we may have spoken before about Hogan families. I am descended from a Denis Hogan born ca. 1811 somewhere in Tipperary, parents unknown. Denis came to Australia as a convict with a 7 year sentence in 1833, crime unknown, as what he was originally tried for should have attracted the death sentence. The only clues I have of perhaps what his father's name was, comes from the names of his sons James, John (my gt.grandfather), and Timothy, and he also had a daughter, Mary. James and John have both come down to my son's generation. Denis married Margaret Carey who seems to have come from Cork or Tipperary. Margaret came here under a migration scheme to bring young ladies here to redress the balance of men to women in the fledgling colony in Sydney. If you or any other Hogan researchers you know of, are missing a Denis, please keep my 2xgt.grandfather in mind. Elizabeth Walker, Lake Macquarie, Australia. TnT Cole wrote: > Thanks for this Hogan reference from the Nenagh Guardian! > > "Marriages > Thomas Francis Reddy, 32 Glasthule, Kingstown, to Hanoria, eldest daughter > of the late Martin Hogan, Esq., Borrisokane. Co. Tipperary." > > Can anyone claim this Hanoria or her father Martin Hogan from Borrisokane; or other Hogans from Borrisokane/Cappanasmere/Terryglass/Kilbarron in this time frame? > > I'm trying to rule out a family (though I'm really hoping it may be mine!) from Cappanasmere (a few miles from Borrisokane; Terryglass/Kilbarron Catholic parish). Terryglass/Kilbarron parish records have Daniel Hogan and Anna/Honoria Tuohy parents of baptisms: Catherine (Cappanasmere) 1828, Honora (Garryand) 1831, Daniel (Kilbarron) 1832, Anne (Capanasmear) 1834, Martin 1836 and 1838 (Cappanasmere), John (Cappanasmere) 1840. Names, birth orders and approx dob work for my Hogan line. > > If anyone can claim these or descendents (all mine except dau. Honora migrated to USA 1847-1853) it would be immensely helpful to me if you'd respond. > > Thanks!! > > Tina > Michigan USA > Researching Irish Hogan, Tuohy, Cregan, Haley > > > > > > > 17th March 1879. > > To Prospective Correspondents. > > "Never write with pen or ink. It is altogether too plain, and does not hold > the mind of the editor and printer closely enough in their work. If you are > compelled to use ink never use that vulgarity known as the blotting pad. If > you drop a blot of ink on the paper, lick it off. Don't *puctuate*!. We > prefer to puctuate all manuscripts send to us. And don't use capitals. Then > we can pucuate and capitalize to suit ourselves, and your article, when you > see it in print, will astonish, even if it doesn't please you. Don't write > too plainly. It is a sign of plebian origin and state school breeding. Poor > writing is an indication of genius. It is about the only indication of > genius that great men possess. Scrawl your article with your eyes shut, and > make every word as illegible as you can. Always write on both sides of the > paper. Lay your paper on the ground when you write: the rougher the ground > the better. Coarse brown wrapping paper is the best for writing your article > on. If you can tear down an old circus poster and write on the pasty side, > it will be still better. When your article is completed crunch your paper in > your pocket, and carry it around two or three days before you post it. This > rubs off all superfluous pencil marks and makes it lighter to handle. If you > can think of it, lose one page out of the middle of your article. We can > easily supply what is missing, and we love to do so. We have nothing better > to do". > > Editor. > > > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > >

Tina, I have lots of info on Hogans in Borrisokane. Email me at [email protected] and we can see if the lines connect. Colleen -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of TnT Cole Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 10:41 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-TIP] Hogan marriage Nenagh Guardian. Thanks for this Hogan reference from the Nenagh Guardian! "Marriages Thomas Francis Reddy, 32 Glasthule, Kingstown, to Hanoria, eldest daughter of the late Martin Hogan, Esq., Borrisokane. Co. Tipperary." Can anyone claim this Hanoria or her father Martin Hogan from Borrisokane; or other Hogans from Borrisokane/Cappanasmere/Terryglass/Kilbarron in this time frame? I'm trying to rule out a family (though I'm really hoping it may be mine!) from Cappanasmere (a few miles from Borrisokane; Terryglass/Kilbarron Catholic parish). Terryglass/Kilbarron parish records have Daniel Hogan and Anna/Honoria Tuohy parents of baptisms: Catherine (Cappanasmere) 1828, Honora (Garryand) 1831, Daniel (Kilbarron) 1832, Anne (Capanasmear) 1834, Martin 1836 and 1838 (Cappanasmere), John (Cappanasmere) 1840. Names, birth orders and approx dob work for my Hogan line. If anyone can claim these or descendents (all mine except dau. Honora migrated to USA 1847-1853) it would be immensely helpful to me if you'd respond. Thanks!! Tina Michigan USA Researching Irish Hogan, Tuohy, Cregan, Haley   17th March 1879. To Prospective Correspondents. "Never write with pen or ink. It is altogether too plain, and does not hold the mind of the editor and printer closely enough in their work. If you are compelled to use ink never use that vulgarity known as the blotting pad. If you drop a blot of ink on the paper, lick it off. Don't *puctuate*!. We prefer to puctuate all manuscripts send to us. And don't use capitals. Then we can pucuate and capitalize to suit ourselves, and your article, when you see it in print, will astonish, even if it doesn't please you. Don't write too plainly. It is a sign of plebian origin and state school breeding. Poor writing is an indication of genius. It is about the only indication of genius that great men possess. Scrawl your article with your eyes shut, and make every word as illegible as you can. Always write on both sides of the paper. Lay your paper on the ground when you write: the rougher the ground the better. Coarse brown wrapping paper is the best for writing your article on. If you can tear down an old circus poster and write on the pasty side, it will be still better. When your article is completed crunch your paper in your pocket, and carry it around two or three days before you post it. This rubs off all superfluous pencil marks and makes it lighter to handle. If you can think of it, lose one page out of the middle of your article. We can easily supply what is missing, and we love to do so. We have nothing better to do". Editor. _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for this Hogan reference from the Nenagh Guardian! "Marriages Thomas Francis Reddy, 32 Glasthule, Kingstown, to Hanoria, eldest daughter of the late Martin Hogan, Esq., Borrisokane. Co. Tipperary." Can anyone claim this Hanoria or her father Martin Hogan from Borrisokane; or other Hogans from Borrisokane/Cappanasmere/Terryglass/Kilbarron in this time frame? I'm trying to rule out a family (though I'm really hoping it may be mine!) from Cappanasmere (a few miles from Borrisokane; Terryglass/Kilbarron Catholic parish). Terryglass/Kilbarron parish records have Daniel Hogan and Anna/Honoria Tuohy parents of baptisms: Catherine (Cappanasmere) 1828, Honora (Garryand) 1831, Daniel (Kilbarron) 1832, Anne (Capanasmear) 1834, Martin 1836 and 1838 (Cappanasmere), John (Cappanasmere) 1840. Names, birth orders and approx dob work for my Hogan line. If anyone can claim these or descendents (all mine except dau. Honora migrated to USA 1847-1853) it would be immensely helpful to me if you'd respond. Thanks!! Tina Michigan USA Researching Irish Hogan, Tuohy, Cregan, Haley   17th March 1879. To Prospective Correspondents. "Never write with pen or ink. It is altogether too plain, and does not hold the mind of the editor and printer closely enough in their work. If you are compelled to use ink never use that vulgarity known as the blotting pad. If you drop a blot of ink on the paper, lick it off. Don't *puctuate*!. We prefer to puctuate all manuscripts send to us. And don't use capitals. Then we can pucuate and capitalize to suit ourselves, and your article, when you see it in print, will astonish, even if it doesn't please you. Don't write too plainly. It is a sign of plebian origin and state school breeding. Poor writing is an indication of genius. It is about the only indication of genius that great men possess. Scrawl your article with your eyes shut, and make every word as illegible as you can. Always write on both sides of the paper. Lay your paper on the ground when you write: the rougher the ground the better. Coarse brown wrapping paper is the best for writing your article on. If you can tear down an old circus poster and write on the pasty side, it will be still better. When your article is completed crunch your paper in your pocket, and carry it around two or three days before you post it. This rubs off all superfluous pencil marks and makes it lighter to handle. If you can think of it, lose one page out of the middle of your article. We can easily supply what is missing, and we love to do so. We have nothing better to do". Editor.

Apologies for taking so long to post this - by now have forgotten who was interested and on which list!! Senior moments!! For North Tipperary ejectment book records start in 1888 and for South Tipperary in 1890. The books are available in the National Archives Bishop St Dublin. I am not aware that there are any microfilms or records in any other location. Regards Clare -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 508 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

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Hi Jan, I really don't know, was it in an article I posted, if it was can you let me know which one, I could go back and look again and see if I could figure anything out. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Kenney Fortado" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 1:38 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Agnameadle vs Toomevara > Thankyou, Mary, for the information on Aghnameadle. > > I realize that the civil parish is Aghnameadle and the RC parish is > Toomevara, but there is also a town of Toomevara and a townland of > Aghnameadle (where Thomas Spillane lived). > > What would be your best guess? Was the article talking about the RC parish > of Toomevara or the town of Toomevara? I am thinking that if the article > was > talking about the town of Toomevara, that is different from the townland > of > Aghnameadle. I think that as far as the name of a parish goes, Toomevara > and > Aghnameadle were interchangeable, perhaps because of confusion, but there > is > a definite town of Toomevara so if the article was about the town of > Toomevara (and not the parish), it would NOT have been about Thomas > Spillane > of Aghnameadle (townland). > > Jan > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Thankyou, Mary, for the information on Aghnameadle. I realize that the civil parish is Aghnameadle and the RC parish is Toomevara, but there is also a town of Toomevara and a townland of Aghnameadle (where Thomas Spillane lived). What would be your best guess? Was the article talking about the RC parish of Toomevara or the town of Toomevara? I am thinking that if the article was talking about the town of Toomevara, that is different from the townland of Aghnameadle. I think that as far as the name of a parish goes, Toomevara and Aghnameadle were interchangeable, perhaps because of confusion, but there is a definite town of Toomevara so if the article was about the town of Toomevara (and not the parish), it would NOT have been about Thomas Spillane of Aghnameadle (townland). Jan

Nenagh Guardian. 3rd Oct. 1881. Head Constable Close summoned John Walsh of Newport, for having on the 9th day of September, used threatening language to his brother William Walsh, for the purpose of compelling him to abstain from doing an act which he had a legal right to do, namely, for driving a horse and car for Mr. Christopher Cullen. The summons was brought under the 38th and 39th of Victoria. It having been proved that on the 9th of this month the defendant not only used intimidating language to his brother, Wm., but also refused to drive the police to Birdhill with prisoners (the band boys) who were sentenced at the previous Petty Sessions, he was sentenced to one month in prison with hard labour. 17th March 1879. To Prospective Correspondents. "Never write with pen or ink. It is altogether too plain, and does not hold the mind of the editor and printer closely enough in their work. If you are compelled to use ink never use that vulgarity known as the blotting pad. If you drop a blot of ink on the paper, lick it off. Don't *puctuate*!. We prefer to puctuate all manuscripts send to us. And don't use capitals. Then we can pucuate and capitalize to suit ourselves, and your article, when you see it in print, will astonish, even if it doesn't please you. Don't write too plainly. It is a sign of plebian origin and state school breeding. Poor writing is an indication of genius. It is about the only indication of genius that great men possess. Scrawl your article with your eyes shut, and make every word as illegible as you can. Always write on both sides of the paper. Lay your paper on the ground when you write: the rougher the ground the better. Coarse brown wrapping paper is the best for writing your article on. If you can tear down an old circus poster and write on the pasty side, it will be still better. When your article is completed crunch your paper in your pocket, and carry it around two or three days before you post it. This rubs off all superfluous pencil marks and makes it lighter to handle. If you can think of it, lose one page out of the middle of your article. We can easily supply what is missing, and we love to do so. We have nothing better to do". Editor. *Spelling as per paper.* At Nenagh Petty Sessions there was a case at the suit of Mary Cantwell, against Martin, Denis and John Maher, of Ballinlough, for assault and threats over the removal of straw from a field, which the latter had rented from the former. Cantwell and his wife gave evidence. The latter appeared very weakly, which she said was caused by the assault;-according to her evidence she was treated with much barbarity by her brothers, she swore two glasses of whiskey did not enter her lips for the last five months. Mr. Nolan, defending, said she had been fined for drunkenness the last court day. John Maher swore he was in dread of Tom Cantwell to go for the straw. To Mr. Kennedy (Prosecuting)-I am more in dread of his wife Mary. Cantwell and his wife were ordered to give security to keep the peace for 12 months, or, in default of doing so, prison for two months. At Roscrea Petty Sessions, on Monday, before Captain Maxwell and Col. Hamilton, and Joseph Griffith, Esq., Pat Maher was charged with assaulting John Martin by striking him with a stone on the head which severely cut him. The police were unable to serve Maher with a summons until lately. It appeared the parties along with several others, were returning from Roscrea, after selling corn, the entire proceeds of which they did not bring home with them, as some publicans certify, when they commenced wrangling and squabbling, during which Martin received a blow of a stone to the head inflicted by Maher, who was fined £1 and costs. 6th Nov. 1876. Matt Gleeson (known as Matt the Miller) was summoned at Nenagh Petty Sessions for being drunk and disorderly. This was his third offence this year. Matt said he took the pledge and would retire from Public life for twelve months. Mr. Reeves, Sub-Inspector, said that Matt was generally drunk five nights a week. Several persons of the neighbourhood complained of his conduct, and of him using very bad and offensive language. He cursed and swore in a fearful manner, and his neighbours couldn't sleep at night on account of his gross misconduct. He was sentenced to one month in prison with hard labour. Marriages Thomas Francis Reddy, 32 Glasthule, Kingstown, to Hanoria, eldest daughter of the late Martin Hogan, Esq., Borrisokane. Co. Tipperary. Died on Nov. 4th at Moneygall, John Wells, son of the late John Lloyd Wells, to the inexpressible grief of his mother and family.

Jan, I never know the difference between civil parishes and the Catholic Parishes. The piece underneath is from the A HERITAGE GAZETTEER OF NORTH TIPPERARY . Not sure if its any help to you. Aghnameadle. Aghnameadle was the name of the medieval parish (also of the Civil Parish), and is still used by the Church of Ireland, its church in Toomevara village being styled Aghnameadle. Built features of interest include a castle, a bridge and the graveyard and church. John Gleeson (1915/1982) gives the name as Ai na meadal, the ford of the medals, but offers no explanation. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Kenney Fortado" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:12 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Evictions in Toomevara (Mary Heaphy) > > Question: Thomas had been living in Aghnameadle, while the newspaper > article > refers to Toomevara. I am wondering if Aghnameadle and Toomevara might > have > been interchangeable. > I know that there is a town of Aghnameadle that is in the civil parish of > Aghnameadle, but I think it is in the RC parish of Toomevara. > > Thank you, > Jan > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >