The following arrived at Sydney Cove 20/10/1841 on the "Livingston". You will have to use your imagination with the spelling. Birth dates by calculation from stated age at arrival. Denis Maher (B1813)-Father Martin (dead), mother Bridget-native place Thurles. Also on board his sister Ellen (B1823). Pierce Maher (B1820)-Father Timothy, mother Mary (both alive)-native place Thurles. Richard Maher (B1819)-Father James, mother Patience Grace (both alive). Also on board his brother Daniel (B1822). The native place is given as "Curlifs" Co. Tipperary. A sister to these two migrated from this stated place in 1854 and in Australia (Maitland), married John Hawley, who was from Ballycapple. Jerimah Maher (B1813)-father Denis, mother Bridget (both alive). Also on board Jerimah's sister Eliza (B1821). Native place Brittas, Thurles. Eliza married John Smithson in 1848 and died in 1852. Jerimah had a son Denis T (1845-1915) who married Mary Boland and produced a long line of children at Morpeth New South Wales. Ellen Maher (B1815)-Parents Michael (dead) and Mary. Native place Thurles-under the protection of her step-brother John Longhane (B1818). At Morpeth Cemetery (near Maitland in the Hunter Valley of New South Wales) is this stone "Erected by Thomas Maher, in memory of his father Martin Maher, a native of Clonulty, County Tipperary. Died 16/12/1887, aged 74". Also in this grave are Thomas Maher (died 2/4/1920) aged 80 and his wife Alice (nee Duggen/Duggan) who died 21/9/1918. aged 74. Also perhaps part of this Maher puzzle is John Maher who arrived on the John Knox. John (B1824-D4/5/1873 was married in 1844 to Honorah nee Hogan. Native place given as Ballycapple. Also in this Morpeth/Maitland District was Cornelius Maher (B1747) Native place Thurles. Died 1912. Parents were Michale and Ann nee Callaghan. Cornelius married Bridget Mary Ryan at Maitland in 1882. Hoping these will connect to others with Maher interests. Denis Power

Will of Epaphroditus Marsh of Fethard, Co. Tipperary, Esq. Epaphroditus Marsh of Fethard, Co. Tipperary, Esq., "weak of body" date 28th May 1719. To Deborah Fullerton, my goddaughter, £40. To Elizabeth Fullerton, her sister, £30. To Francis Peirce, of Itson (Idstone), Berks, £35. To John Bowles, of Longeott, in sd County, £15, and to Thomas Wells, of Blunsdon, Wilts, £5 in full of all claim they may have against me. To servants, including Richard Maunsell, "who was Porter or Servant to my late brother the Primate". Whereas by deeds 29th and 30th April 1717, I granted to David Lowe, of Fethard, and Charles Hamilton, of Dublin, Esq., the greater part of my real and personal estate in England and Ireland, or elsewhere on certain trusts, I now confirm the same and devise in like manner my lands at Wicksess in Hannington, Co. Wilts, lands called Oxlays, Nyth, Bidlam, Waterwalls, the meadow and Marsh, the Butts, Well Close, and all other lands in that Parish formerly the copyhold of Mr. William Marsh, my decd. Father-In trust for my sole daughter, Grace, wife of the Rev. Charles Proby. I appoint Rev. Mr. Clotterbuck, of Darrylorcan, Co. Tipperary, executor. Witnesses-Nathan Key, Pat. Bray, Richd. Lahy. Proved 10th Dec. 1719. Administration granted to Charles Hamilton, nephew of decd.

I missed this man while transcribing. On the off chance that he belongs to anyone, here he is: 16619 GLASHEEN, Thos. 14 Dec 1852 Age:21 Tipperary S. Catholic single Lab Stationed: Reserve, Donegal 1854. http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/military/ric-tipperary.txt Sorry about that, Christina

I am curious as to the history of a Lowe family in Tipperary. They allegedly connect to the Westmeath Lowe family but seem to be too early. Robert Lowe, Knockelly, Tipperary, 23 January 1685/ 1686. David Lowe, Fethard, Tipperary, 1730. Robert Low, Esq, Brookhill, Tipperary, 1742. David Low, Gent. Brookhill, Tipperary, 1767. Robert Low, Esq, Fethard, Tipperary, 1778 Hamilton Lowe, Fethard, Tipperary, 1816. These are mostly or all Prerogative wills. Does anyone know their origins? My guess is that Robert Lowe of Knockelly is the first of them. Yours, Dora Smith Austin, TX [email protected]

Hi Val, many thanks your a gem. Laraine on the stormy Gold Coast ----- Original Message ----- From: "val kenelley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:13 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] heffernan > Death. 1848 Thomas 64 yrs. > Ref V 18482277116 NSW > East Maitland/West maitland. RC > -------------------------------------- > Death 1859 Thomas Heffernan reg 2724 > Place moreton bay NSW > ----------------------------------------- > Death 1878 thomas heffernan Reg7597 > Parents Thomas & Bridget NSW > ---------------------------------------------- > 1881.death.thomas heffernan aged 45 yrs place ben lomand nsw.reg 7024 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > 1881 death thomas heffernan reg 7387. > parents. william & mary nsw > ------------------------------------------------- > death 1877 thomas c heffernan reg 9326 nsw......birth 1877 thomas > christopher heffernan reg22143 nsw same parents > parents peter & flora. > --------------------------------------------------- > death 1881 thomas heffernan nsw 10480. 50yrs place coraki . nsw. > --------------------------------------------------------------- > Plenty of births nsw and Rookwood Cemetery has graves > Val > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Index to Miscellaneous Immigrant State Records NSW Ship Lady Mc Naghten 26-2-1837 James 38 yrs Letitia 37 . Ellen 12 yrs Bridget 8 yrs Francis 8 yrs Mary 7 yrs Michael 1 1/2 yrs --------------------------------- Val

Death. 1848 Thomas 64 yrs. Ref V 18482277116 NSW East Maitland/West maitland. RC -------------------------------------- Death 1859 Thomas Heffernan reg 2724 Place moreton bay NSW ----------------------------------------- Death 1878 thomas heffernan Reg7597 Parents Thomas & Bridget NSW ---------------------------------------------- 1881.death.thomas heffernan aged 45 yrs place ben lomand nsw.reg 7024 -------------------------------------------------------------------- 1881 death thomas heffernan reg 7387. parents. william & mary nsw ------------------------------------------------- death 1877 thomas c heffernan reg 9326 nsw......birth 1877 thomas christopher heffernan reg22143 nsw same parents parents peter & flora. --------------------------------------------------- death 1881 thomas heffernan nsw 10480. 50yrs place coraki . nsw. --------------------------------------------------------------- Plenty of births nsw and Rookwood Cemetery has graves Val

New York Castle Garden records show no immigration for the surname Hetherlow, but 3 records for the surname Hether from England and 6 from Germany. My hunch is the surname Hether or Hetherlow has it's roots with the Norman invasion of England.

There was a Hetherlow in Cashel parish in the early 1800's, but that is all I can find. Janet

To me Hetherlow appears to be a version of Aherlow, which is a placename. However, it might have also ended up as an Irish surname. I'll check and see what I can come up with in a while Janet >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Patricia Coogan" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:29 PM >> Subject: [IRL-TIP] Surname Hetherlow >> >> >>> Has anyone seen the surname Hetherlow or is it a typing error on the >>> baptismal certificate of my ancestor? >>> >>> It gives Thomas Hetherlow as a sponsor. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Pat Connor Coogan

Could it be a misspelling? I was helping somebody with the surname Hetherington. There were variants and I did indeed find them in Ireland although the name didn't sound Irish. I'm always surprised with some of the surnames, like Johnson. The Vikings, Normans and others were occupiers so I guess Irish surnames are really varied. Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Bora" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 9:27 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Surname Hetherlow > Pat, my first thought was that it's not Irish. It sounded more British to > me. Ancestry shows only two entries for the name. One is a John > Hetherlow > in the 1851 Scotland Census, born in Haddington, Scotland. The second > entry > jumps ahead to the 1980 Liverpool, Eng. phone book, that lists a 'care > flats' called Hetherlow Towers. The name does not appear at all in > Griffiths, so I would assume it's Scot or Brit. Hope this helps you a > little. > > Terry Bora > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Patricia Coogan" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:29 PM > Subject: [IRL-TIP] Surname Hetherlow > > >> Has anyone seen the surname Hetherlow or is it a typing error on the >> baptismal certificate of my ancestor? >> >> It gives Thomas Hetherlow as a sponsor. >> >> Thanks >> >> Pat Connor Coogan >> _______________________________________________________ >> No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.49/2294 - Release Date: 08/10/09 > 06:10:00 > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat, my first thought was that it's not Irish. It sounded more British to me. Ancestry shows only two entries for the name. One is a John Hetherlow in the 1851 Scotland Census, born in Haddington, Scotland. The second entry jumps ahead to the 1980 Liverpool, Eng. phone book, that lists a 'care flats' called Hetherlow Towers. The name does not appear at all in Griffiths, so I would assume it's Scot or Brit. Hope this helps you a little. Terry Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Patricia Coogan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 12:29 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Surname Hetherlow > Has anyone seen the surname Hetherlow or is it a typing error on the > baptismal certificate of my ancestor? > > It gives Thomas Hetherlow as a sponsor. > > Thanks > > Pat Connor Coogan > _______________________________________________________ > No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.49/2294 - Release Date: 08/10/09 06:10:00

Has anyone seen the surname Hetherlow or is it a typing error on the baptismal certificate of my ancestor? It gives Thomas Hetherlow as a sponsor. Thanks Pat Connor Coogan

Thanks Val anything on Hefferann especailly Thomas. Lariane at the glorious Gold Coast ----- Original Message ----- From: "val kenelley" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 8:23 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Heffernan > Australia 1837-1870 Convicts Bank Accounts.Sydney > > Thomas heffernan > warrant Num. 43/19. Conditional. Free by servitude. reel 596. Item > 4/4547. Ship: Portland > > May interest someone. > Val > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Australia 1837-1870 Convicts Bank Accounts.Sydney Thomas heffernan warrant Num. 43/19. Conditional. Free by servitude. reel 596. Item 4/4547. Ship: Portland May interest someone. Val

Hello Wendy - Read your article with interest. Unfortunately, I see no family connections between us. But I am interested in the reference to the Bowes River. My maternal grandmother was a Bowes whose ancestors were from Ireland, but I don't know where in Ireland, although it could have been Meath. I was wondering if you would know anything about the reference to Bowes, especially anything about their ancestral home in Ireland. Thanks, Wendy. - Lee Morton, Medford, New Jersey, USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy Kurz" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 2:35 AM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Burges/s family Fethard > > I can across an interesting Fethard connection... > ... He was soon managing several of these and in due course acquired a > property > of his own on the Bowes River, north of present-day Geraldton, which he > called simply The Bowes> > >> > Wendy Kurz (Latham) in Western Australia > >

>From the Tipperary Vindicator. On Tuesday, Thomas O'Meara, Esq., Coroner, held an inquest at Barnage?(Barnane), on view of the bodies of four men who had been employed in cutting a mill race for John Carden, Esq., who is about erecting a flax factory on his estate. A portion of the mill race, which was about 25 foot deep, gave way on Monday evening, when, melancholy to add, the lives of three masons, named Kennedy, Callaghan, and Ryan, and one labourer, named Moore, were lost by the earth falling in on them. After a patient inquiry into the facts it did not appear that blame was attributable to any person, but it is to be regretted that in so useful and excellent a work as that undertaken by Mr. Carden, a competent engineer or builder was not engaged to see that it was properly and securely planned and perfected. A verdict of accidental death was returned. >From the Nenagh Guardian. 23rd July 1842. Michael and Patrick Kennedy, brothers, were sentenced by Mr. Barrister Howley to fifteen years transportation for killing a ram, the property of Caleb Going, Esq., of Traverstown. Fifteen years for killing a ram!. This certainly appears a vigorous enforcement of the law, even to the uttermost extreme of its severity. We recollect, some months ago, that a great outcry was raised, because sentence of death was recorded against a person convicted at King's County sessions for killing a goat. In that case an old Act of Parliament, which happened to escape Sir Samuel Romilly, and all reformers of the sanguinary criminal code, allotted death as punishment for killing a goat; and the assistant Barrister of the King's County had no alternative but to record the sentence, and make his report to the Government. But in regard to the killing of a ram, there is no such antiquated remnant of the Draco system of legislation, and the "fifteen years transportation" must have been the punishment considered necessary by Mr. Howley, acting entirely upon his own discretion. Even if it were "The Ram of Derby", we hold that this was a punishment entirely incommensurate with the offence. 11th March 1878. At the Tipperary Petty Sessions a woman named Julia Ryan was jailed for three days for stealing a quantity of Cabbage Plants. Near Ballinasloe on Monday, a cart containing barrels of porter was stopped by five men, and some of the porter drawn and drunk. A woman, aged 101 years, named Eliza Gleeson, died yesterday at Kyleterome. She had her mental faculties up to the last. At Borrisokane Petty Sessions, some persons were fined for adopting that very cheap mode of feeding their cattle, by turning them out to graze on the public roads, the owners proving themselves greener than the fields, by allowing themselves to be caught. Before Nenagh Guardians on Thursday, there was a memorial signed by some of the Dolla Ratepayers recommending that a man from Curreeny should get out-door relief. He is at present earning 2/- per week, and he has 12 children, the eldest of whom is only 14 years old. He was allowed 2/- per week. Nenagh Town Commissioners had a letter from Ellen Horan, the woman in charge of the Spout, asking for an increase in her wages which amounted to 10/- per year. When asked how much she wanted, she replied, "when I pay a half-penny a day for snuff, there is little left." The Commissioners agreed to increase her salary to £1 per year. 20th Sept. 1880. At Nenagh Board of Guardians among the claimants were two men who were let out eight or nine days ago, and supplied with a suit of clothes each in the expectation that they would remain out. They now come back but did not have all of their clothes. One of them is the Poet Stonebreaker from Ballyanny. The Poet had to pull up and leave the room with his companion, a man stricken in years, who alleged that he brought a better waistcoat to the house then the one he got on leaving it. Mary Ryan, whose pugilistic propensities are the terror of the neighbourhood where she holds high handed domination, summoned Martin and John Considine, father and son, for assault. Mary's evidence was that Martin gave her a good thrashing, and John came and nearly finished her out and out. Only that she had as many lives as a cat she would be gone to Purgatory long ago. On the defence, it appeared, during the case at Thurles Petty Sessions, that the two men (both able fellows) were scarcely able to defend themselves from Mary's maltreatment, only stones were scarce at the scene of the action, one of the defendants, at least, would be a corpse from the manoeuvring of Mary. Mary tried in vain to make parley with them, she said she'd stand no soft sawdering, so, after failing to mollify her, they took to their heels. Their Worships dismissed the case. The dispute arose over the trespass of some geese. At Thurles Petty Sessions, Eliza Bergin, was send to Nenagh Gaol, for three months with had labour, for being found wandering on the road and abroad, and sleeping in the open air at night without being able to give a good account of herself and having no visible means of support. Thomas Daly, a similar billet, for deserting his wife and leaving her a burden on the Thurles Union. Patrick Kennedy, a month in lieu of a £2 fine, which was ruled against him for being merry and mellow, and a noisy good fellow. James Hogan, got seven days in lieu of 10/-, for being three sheets in the wind for the first time in the last 12 months. 1st Nov. 1875. Last Saturday, Mr. Michael Meagher, Coroner held an inquest at Rockford, Roscrea, on view of the body of Martin Coffee, aged 90 years. It appeared from the evidence that Coffee who is a labourer, was discovered the night before, burned, having fallen out pf his bed into the fire, no body being in the house with him at the time. Marriages. Edward Biggs, Esq., only son of the late Frederick Biggs, MD, Drominagh Lodge, to Elizabeth Dillon (Bessie) youngest daughter of Louis Anderson, Esq., late of the RIC. At Cloughjordan Church by the Rev. Dr. Dubbins, Benjamin C. Williams, Cloughjordan, to Sarah, only daughter of Robert Coughlan, Islandwood. We have been informed that the Rev. Fr. O'Donoghue, PP, Portroe, denounced the keeper and frequenters of the numerous Sheebeens in Corbally, when he spoke of the altar last Sunday.

I can across an interesting Fethard connection and historical coincidence the other day that I thought might be of interest to anyone on the list looking for information about the Burges/s family in Fethard. I recently bought a newly published book co-written by Pamela Statham-Drew, a West Australian historian and Jacqueline O'Brien, widow of the late and famous Vincent O'Brien the Tipperary race horse trainer. The book, "On We Go- The Wittenoom Way; The Legacy of a Colonial Chaplain" (Fremantle Press 2009) is about Mrs O'Brien's family, the Wittenoom family. She was born Jacqueline Wittenoom in 1926 in Western Australia (where I live) and tells the story of her family in Western Australia from its founder, John Burdett Wittenoom, the first Anglican Chaplain of the Swan River Colony (as W.A. was then known). On 31 March 1860, a Wittenoom woman, Augusta, married one Thomas BURGES. The story is thus told in the book (page 85): "Thomas Burges was an Irishman whose father, Samuel, had arrived in the colony in March 1830 with his brothers, William and Lockier. The three young men were the sons of a doctor in Fethard, Co. Tipperary in Ireland and being members of a large family with few prospects they were attracted by the possibility of owning land in Western Australia; they took up a substantial grant in the York district. Here Samuel became involved with an Irish servant girl, Judith Kearney. After their son, Thomas was born on 3 April 1831, Judith was sent back to Ireland; the child was raised in York on the Burges farm, 'Tipperary', until 1841 when Samuel sent him back to school in the brothers' home town, Fethard. Seven years later Thomas returned to the Swan River as nephew to Samuel, who by this time had married and was the father of another three children. Thomas was sent to his uncle William Burges's properties in the north-west [of W.A.] to learn about station life. He was soon managing several of these and in due course acquired a property of his own on the Bowes River, north of present-day Geraldton, which he called simply The Bowes. It was here, a decade later that he set up home with his bride Augusta after their marriage on 31 March 1860. "William Burges eventually returned to Ireland and to Coolmore, the farm he bought in Fethard, Co. Tipperary. When he died the farm was sold and the proceeds shared among his West Australian relatives and coincidently this property would in the 1970s be purchased by Wittenoom descendents [Mrs O'Brien] who created there the great Coolmore thoroughbred racehorse-breeding empire." Nothing more is said about the unlucky Judith Kearney or where she came from in Ireland and to where she returned. I hope she was looked after properly. A Dr Lochia/Lochier/Lockier BURGES/S, Esq, "doctor of physick" of Fethard had a daughter variously called Eleanor/Ellen/Elinor, who in 1808, became the second wife of Oliver LATHAM (of Helenpark near Killenaule) the older half brother of my 3X great grandfather, William LATHAM (who lived & had property in Fethard). In 1789, Oliver Latham's sister, Ann LATHAM, b.1773, had married a Lochier BURGES/S, brother to Oliver's later wife, Eleanor/Ellen/Elinor. (So a brother and sister married another brother and sister). It is possible that he was also a doctor, like his father, and it was actually his and Ann's three sons (if they had children) who came to Western Australia although the sons would have been approaching 40 by then and not exactly "young men". There must be a LATHAM family connection to the three BURGES/S sons who came to Western Australia in 1830 but looks like just another mystery to unravel! Maybe someone on the List has some information? Interestingly, as far as coincidences go, Vincent and Jacqueline O'Brien and later their daughter, Jane and her husband, at one stage owned Ballysheehan Stud, which used to be the Tipperary home of my LATHAM family for many years from the early 1700s until about 1820. Wendy Kurz (Latham) in Western Australia

I presume they are in the Archives of both of the Tipperary lists. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "M & P Parkes" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:15 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Nenagh Guardian > Hi Mary > > Are your extracts available and searchable anywhere else on the net as > I know I have missed many of them. > > Thanks > Margaret > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I presume they are in the Archives of both of the Tipperary lists. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "cathy streit" <[email protected]> To: "tipperary genealogy forum" <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 8:00 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Nenagh transcriptions > Thanks to Mary Heaphy for the wonderful "Nenagh Guardian" entries! Mary, > are those saved on line somewhere? > Thanks, > Cathy > > > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >