Liz, here is the website for Griffiths. http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php Terry Bora ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Russell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Edmund Russell > Where would be the best place to look at these records? > > Liz > > -----Original Message----- > > Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Edmund Russell > > Liz, there are entries in Griffiths Valuation for Edmund Russell in Tipp. > You might want to take a look at them. > > Terry Bora Michigan > >

Where would be the best place to look at these records? Liz -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Theresa Bora Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 9:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Edmund Russell Liz, there are entries in Griffiths Valuation for Edmund Russell in Tipp. You might want to take a look at them. Terry Bora Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Russell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> > Hello, > > I've not posted the list before, only lurking as I have no idea which > county > one of my Irish lines is from. But, now I have a question - my 2x great > grandfather was b. abt. 1828 somewhere in Ireland, most likely in the > south > and was Roman Catholic. Most records have his name as Edward Russell, > however, I found his name as Edmund on a payroll ledger shortly after he > arrived in the US. After reading so many posts, I see the name > Edmond/Edmund quite frequently. I had always thought of it as more of an > Anglo name - does anyone have any take on this? > > Thanks, > Liz Russell > > _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Liz, there are entries in Griffiths Valuation for Edmund Russell in Tipp. You might want to take a look at them. Terry Bora Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Elizabeth Russell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> > Hello, > > I've not posted the list before, only lurking as I have no idea which > county > one of my Irish lines is from. But, now I have a question - my 2x great > grandfather was b. abt. 1828 somewhere in Ireland, most likely in the > south > and was Roman Catholic. Most records have his name as Edward Russell, > however, I found his name as Edmund on a payroll ledger shortly after he > arrived in the US. After reading so many posts, I see the name > Edmond/Edmund quite frequently. I had always thought of it as more of an > Anglo name - does anyone have any take on this? > > Thanks, > Liz Russell > >

Thanks, Jan. At first I thought it might have been someone not understanding an Irish brogue and thought the name might have been Eamon. But I can understand the Norman connection, especially with the surname Russell which is a French origin name. Liz -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 8:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-TIP] Edmond/Edward I have found the name often used in some of my families, especially in my Kennedy family and in my Roche family. I have also found the name is interchangeable. Although both are used in Ireland, once my family came to the U.S. they used Edward more often than Edmond, or it might not have been "they," but perhaps the person taking the information from them. I have also read that the spelling "Edmond" was French, and "Edmund" English. I don't know if this is so or not, but I would think when the Normans settled in Ireland, the name Edmond probably was used more often. Jan [email protected] _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Siblings Thomas, Winifred, Catherine and Honora immigrated to Melbourne, Australia in 1850's; John may be in the 1840's. Parents were Michael Shanahan and Winifred Conroy. Thomas was married to a Bridget Ryan . Only son Michael arrived in Australia with this father Thomas. Do not know what became of Bridget. Thomas later married Ann Cavanagh in 1859, Winifred married Matthew Stevenson, Catherine married James Hackett and Honora married Thomas Nolan. They all settled in the Ballan district which includes Ballan, Greendale, Gordon and Myrniong. My husband is a great great grandson of Winifred Shanahan and Matthew Stevenson. Two Shanahan families settled in this area but no connection has been found between them. Shirlee Wellington NZ

Thanks, Cristina. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christina Finn Hunt Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-TIP] Roll Call <COWAN> & <WARREN> Liz, Edmund can be a Catholic name. You see it in records as Edmundus. I have that name mentioned in my Michigan Irish ancestors as a sponsor. Christina | Hello, | | I've not posted the list before, only lurking as I have no idea | which county one of my Irish lines is from. But, now I have a | question - my 2x great grandfather was b. abt. 1828 somewhere in | Ireland, most likely in the south and was Roman Catholic. Most | records have his name as Edward Russell, however, I found his name | as Edmund on a payroll ledger shortly after he arrived in the US. | After reading so many posts, I see the name Edmond/Edmund quite | frequently. I had always thought of it as more of an Anglo name - | does anyone have any take on this? | | Thanks, | Liz Russell _______________________________________________________ Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ann, I don't know if this will help you or not, but there's a town(land) a little south of Thurles called Cabra. It's close to the Cabragh Wetlands. GoogleEarth shows the welands on both sides of the town of Cabra. I'm guessing that Cabra and Cabragh might be one and the same. Terry Bora Michigan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Burns" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 10:52 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] Roll Call: MCGRATH, LOUGHNANE or LONGHAM >I am seeking information about the family of Bridget Loughnane (sometimes >spelled Longham) from a place that on her marriage certificate looks like >'Cabragh' in Tipperary. > Her parents were given as John Loughnane and Bridget McGrath. Bridget > Loughnane was born in Tipperary in 1813, at some point emigrated to > Canada, married Jean Baptiste Hebert in Napierville, Quebec in November > 1832 and died in Quebec in 1835 less than a year after giving birth to her > only child, Jean Hebert who was my great great grandfather. > Anne Longham who was sponsor for Bridget's son Jean may have been her > sister. The other sponsor was a James Ryan. At the time of the baptism she > was listed as living at Russeltown on a seigneury south of Montreal. > > Ann Burns > Ottawa ON Canada > _______________________________________________________ > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Folks Martin LEO was born in 1848 somewhere in Tipperary. By 1869 he was marrying Bridget KEOGH in Galway. They had a total of 14 children but the first 4, born in Ireland, all died. Martin was allegedly one of 7 brothers and 7 sisters. His mother was possibly Mary. She may have been an O'SHAUGNESSY. Any information would be of help. Cheers Mike

Hope someone, somewhere has a connection or information.   Patrick Kelly m. Judith/Johanna Mason m. c.1841.  All children b. Shannakyle, Co. Clare. John b.6/14/1842 Michael b.10/25/1844 Margaret b. 1/24/1848 Marcus b. 3/16/1849 Patrick b.9/7/1853 Bridget b.5/15/1857   Judie Mason Chicago

Hi List i am hoping someone with experience in the Gaelic language could help me out. i have some letters from my ggfather John Dwyer who was born in the Parish of Thurles 1838 and migrated to Australia c1856. in one of these letters, which was written 1913, he mentions that he is going to buy a ggrandson 'a full suit from top to toe corderoy jacket and trousers Irish frieze top coat and blackthorn shirt & Devil Agorsvon in ...' my cousins and i are fascinated with these two words and unable to make sense of it. from what we know there is no v in the gaelic language but that is how he wrote it. thank you if anyone knows what this means. Maeve __________________________________________________________________________________ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/

Would be overjoyed if anyone has a connection to or information about one Francis Maher, died 1774 & buried at "The Square" cemetery, Toomevara, Tipperary. I am pretty sure that this man was my 5X Great Grandfather, Francis Maher/Meagher who married a Jane Davis, daughter of Samuel Davis (who was a brother of Joshua Davis, both of Co. Carlow originally). My Francis Maher/Meagher had a daughter called Sarah and a sister who married a Gleeson from Newport. The tombstone says: "Here lieth the mortal part of Francis Maher, Son of William and Sarah Maher Toomevara. Who departed this life October 19th Anno Dom 1774 aged 33 years. This Tomb was erected by his wife Jane Maher In memory of him." We have been trying for several years to locate which family Francis came from. Any help gratefully received. Wendy in Donnybrook, Western Australia.

I am searching for information on Patrick MEAGHER and his wife Mary RYAN of Tipperary. I'm almost certain they emigrated from Ireland by 1851 and ended up in Maryland. So starting from the earliest I know of the MEAGHERS: >Patrick b. c. 1802 (Railstown parish of Cashel Co. > Tipperary) on headstone; d. 4 Dec 1880, Balto, Md. > m. Mary RYAN Meagher b. c. 1810 (same on headstone); d. 28 Dec. 1880, Balto, Md. Patrick MEAGHER and Mary RYAN were married in 1837 at St. John the Baptist in Cashel. Patrick also had a brother Rev. Pierce MEAGHER who had died in Harrisburg, Pa. before he died. Patrick's parents died in Ireland, but I don't know their names. His father died in 1851 in his 84th year; his mother died 24th of Aug 1838 in her 60th year according to an obituary book. >Both Patrick and Mary are buried in New Cathedral Cemetery in Baltimore, Md. St. Patrick Section Lot 57B > >Their children: >Margaret- 1836 - became a nun >Pierce - 1842 - died at age 11; buried with parents >Alice Cecelia - 1845 - married Arthur Shanklin >Philip Thomas - 1848 - married Sarah Potter >Annie - 1856 - buried with her parents >Thomas - 1866 - died at age 4; buried with parents Julia - married Robert J. Foley > >Alice Cecelia is my ggrandmother and is buried in a small >cemetery behind Immaculate Conception Church in Baltimore, Md in Robt. Foley's plot because Julia Foley was her sister. Arthur Shanklin was buried with his first wife. [email protected] Moreno Valley, Ca.

My interest is Edmund RYAN married Ellen SCANLAN / SCANLON A marriage has been found at Aghavallen Kerry 17 FEB 1829 which may (or may not) be appropriate. On the "LILLIES" to Australia in 1861, was a group comprising John, Pierce, Patrick, and Ellen RYAN John, Pearce, and Patrick were children of Edmund RYAN and Ellen SCANLAN / SCANLON. Ellen was a child of Edmund RYAN and Mary RYAN. She married William King in Geelong 1862. On the "BLUE JACKET" to Australia in 1864 were Ellen RYAN (widow of Edmund) and Ellen RYAN (daughter). Pierce 28 MAY 1835 (witnesses James Ryan and Mary Morrissey) Thomas 16 DEC 1837 (witnesses Dermot Brien and Margaret Brien) Patrick 24 JAN 1841 (witnesses Thomas Lafferd / Laffern / Laffan? and Johanna Quirk) were baptised in RC Parish of Ballylooby Tipperary (SR) ??? Whitechurch, Tubbridd, Tullaghorton. I expect that there were other children. They may have been from Derravoher Tubbridd Tipperary (SR). Ellen (Scanlan) Ryan's D/E lists in order only Ellen, John, Thomas, and Patrick. Info regarding family of Edmund RYAN and Ellen / Eleanor SCANLAN / SCANLON welcome. bfn KEVIN ROBARTS Victoria Australia

I am searching for information on my ggggrandfather, PHILIP MEALY born in County Tipperary about 1803. He was transported to NSW, Australia in 1833. I have no further information regarding his Irish origins. Barbara Australia

Susan, i couldn't find it in the townland & parish book. I typed into Yahoo, Bermary England & you shop around there with different ways in the search box you might come up with something. Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 2:16 PM Subject: [IRL-TIP] RollCall:O'DWYER >I am looking for information about my great grandparents > > Timothy O'DWYER from Cappawhite b. Feb 24, 1841. Parents Michael O'Dwyer, > Mary Hanley. > Timothy married Catherine Dwyer (O'Dwyer) b. Mar 16, 1855. Parents John > Dwyer (O'Dwyer), Bridget Cronin > The parents were said to be from Bermary but I have never been able to > find > a townland with that name. > Any information would be greatly appreciated. > > Susan in CT > > _______________________________________________________ > Griffith's Valuation: http://www.failteromhat.com/griffiths.php > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am seeking Teefy Family from Birdhill, sometimes spelt Teefey. A number of the family came to Australia in 1860s and my line lived in Sydney, N S W, but other Teefy families went to Queensland. An y help greatly apreciated. Bill Wagga Wagga Australia

My gr-gr-grandparents were: Daniel MAHER/MEAGHER & Bridget RUSSELL. Bridget was probably born in.1795 and showed up, age 65, in Muscatine, Iowa, USA in the 1860 census with 3 sons, Thomas, 30, (my gr-grandfather), , James, 27, and **blank** but pretty sure it was Daniel, 25. Daughters who immigrated were Johanna (married a DWYER), Mary (?) and Bridget (married a DELANEY). Data I was given in Tipperary Town in 1998 simply does not match US records that I know are correct -- birth dates way, way off etc. I'm starting over. Janet L.

Hi list I have Michaek Heffernan to Australia 1850 on "The Lord Stanley" His parents were Thomas Heffernan and Margaret Hennessy. Michael's wife was Margart nee Hennessy her parents were John Hennessy and Alice nee Ryan. Looks like they were Kissing cousins Their fist born was Thomas, Born in America about 1832. They went looking for Gold I am told by the banks of Sacramento. Well then they returned to Ireland to have 4 children before migrating to Australia. I believe they were in close contact to Dwyer's or O' Dwyers also relations. Laraine in Oz

I am looking for information about my great grandparents Timothy O'DWYER from Cappawhite b. Feb 24, 1841. Parents Michael O'Dwyer, Mary Hanley. Timothy married Catherine Dwyer (O'Dwyer) b. Mar 16, 1855. Parents John Dwyer (O'Dwyer), Bridget Cronin The parents were said to be from Bermary but I have never been able to find a townland with that name. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Susan in CT

> > > Bill did he ever fight Paddy Slevin. Paddy was from Australia my husbands line. Wyart Earp was the third man in the ring. Paddy was the bare knuckle champion of all of England. And became the Mayor of the Klondike. Laraine In Oz >