Brenda, Thank you so much for your response which I found extrenely helpful. Like yourself, my wife has been able to estabish a direct link back to Sebastian through Daniel (Son of Sebastian), George (Son of Daniel), David (Son of George), Thomas (Son of David) through to my father in law, William, (1876-1961), who was a son of Thomas. I do not have a date of birth for William Ruttle except ABT 1804 - Maybe someone out there has - and while I have no evidence, I tend to believe that he may have been a son of William and Anne Ruttle who were married ABT 1804, Anne being a daughter of Daniel and Barbara. Let us look at some of the names you mention: a) Joseph RUTTLE who was married at Nantenan on 31 July 1896 to my wife's Aunt Elizabeth RUTTLE (Born ABT 1872) Their family was: 1) William John - Born 21 November 1897. Died four hours later. 2) Edward (Eddie) - Born 6 August 1901 Died 22 December 1975 3) William - Born 30 July 1902 Died 29 December 1961 4) Louisa May - Born 18 March 1904 5) Annie Elizabeth - Born 30 January 1910 Died 14 March 1911 6) Francis Joseph - Born 16 July 1914 Died January 1972 b) Edward Martin RUTTLE. I am currently trying to establish his date of birth. He married another of my wife's aunts, Clarinda RUTTLE (Born November 1878 Died 16 January 1965) on 11 June 1908. Their family was 1) William - Born 19 August 1909 Died 18 August 1991 2) Joseph Heny - Born 4 January 1911 Died 29 December 2001 3) Catherine Elizabeth - Born 12 May 1913 Died 2 May 1981 4) Annie Elizabeth - LIVING 5) Thomas Edward - Born 27 September 1917 Died 31 December 1958 Edward died on 26 May 1940 c) Thomas RUTTLE - I know nothing about him - maybe someone else does ! d) Annie RUTTLE, who you say married a George TESKEY. From information I have on Anne RUTTLE, she was born at Castle Hewson, Ireland on 27 November 1873 and was married at Askeaton, Ireland on 21 June 1911 to George TESKEY (Born 24 October 1874 Died 1950) Their family includes 1) Henry Joseph TESKEY 2) George Edward TESKEY 3) Annie Elizabeth TESKEY e) We come to Daniel RUTTLE, conceived from the second marriage. I have Diana as a daughter (Born 2 April 1881) and possibly a Rosanna (Born 1 April 1875). I have no record of William, Janet, Mary or Rose. The son, Sam, who was born on 27 July 1883 was married in Adare on 4 November 1916 to Annie RUTTLE, a daughter of John RUTTLE. They had a daughter Mary. Sam died in March 1935. I hope this has been of help and would be happy to add to the above should you so wish. Derek Gree,.Oakham, England