As I said I am descended from two Doupe siblings, Rachel and John... John and his wife Elizabeth Fitzelle are my 4 x gr grandparents. Which puts me in the Fitzelle line as well as Adam fitzelle is my 7 times gr. grandfather. Elizabeth's parents were Adam Fitzelle ye younger and Mary Dolmage. These are my 5 times gr. grandparents. Royal had Mary unplaced.. he could not find her parentage. but if she is my 5 times gr. grandmother.. I am assuming one of Johann Adam domages Son's was her father. that would be the generation of her birth. If you can find anything abouther I would appreciate it,, they married in 1755, which would give her date of birth anyway from perhaps 1735 on. his second wife was Catherine sparling,,, he married her in 1778, and she was born in 1760. if that helps.. Judy