Hi Ed, If you go to my web site www.geocities.com/judydrysdale you will find the information on the Doupe/Shier heritage My Gr.gr.gr. grandparents were Samuel and Catherine, their Daughter Rachel married Nathaniel Shier then Charles Doupe. I do have the parents of Catherine, but I will have to check it out first. All the information you need on the Shier's and Doupe's and the immigration of the Palatines to England and then to Ireland and on the Canada is in there under History. I have pictures of the cemetary in Kirkton, and pictures of Rachel and Charles. I am sure you will find it really interesting. Judy from Ontario.