Eula Lapp in To Their Heirs Forever says that Catherine, wife of Johan Christopher Switzer of Court Matrix was a Ruckle. A Historical Sketch written by J. Holmes for the Ruckle-Switzer picnic in 1925says in part: Mrs. Switzer [Catherine Ruckle Empey, daughter of Daniel son of George] also says ----- that Grandfather Switzer [Jacob, husband of Mary Ruckle] was second cousin of her father, Daniel Ruckle" Jacob Switzer born 1756 was a second cousin once removed of Daniel Ruckle and is probably the Jacob who married Mary Ruckle. This Jacob was a grandson of Johan Christopher Switzer. Mary

Hello I wonder if you could please tell me where the information in your last paragraph came from Mary? This sounds like it could be 'my' Jacob SWITZER father of 10 sons who I beleive all, or most, emmigrated from Ireland to Canada. The eldest being Benjamin, my great great grandfather, born in 1809. It would be great if you confirm or disprove this to a some degree. Thanks in advance Terry Jackson in Oxfordshire Researching: Lancs - SMITH, MCDONNELL, HAYES Ches.- MCDONNELL, GARNER, HOOLEY Staffs.- GARNER Surrey - WILKINSON, CHANDLER, FRY, PARRATT, PUNTER, LITTLE, ARNOLD, BINFIELD Canada & Ireland -SWITZER, LAWRENCE, JACKMAN ----- Original Message ----- From: <Switzerdolmage@aol.com> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Ann Brandt's book > Eula Lapp in To Their Heirs Forever says that Catherine, wife of Johan > Christopher Switzer of Court Matrix was a Ruckle. > > A Historical Sketch written by J. Holmes for the Ruckle-Switzer picnic in > 1925says in part: Mrs. Switzer [Catherine Ruckle Empey, daughter of Daniel son > of George] also says ----- that Grandfather Switzer [Jacob, husband of Mary > Ruckle] was second cousin of her father, Daniel Ruckle" > > Jacob Switzer born 1756 was a second cousin once removed of Daniel Ruckle and > is probably the Jacob who married Mary Ruckle. This Jacob was a grandson of > Johan Christopher Switzer. > > Mary > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Great minds talk about ideas. Average minds talk about > events. Small minds talk about people. > >

I was just thinking I was getting somewhere when I read this mail (ie last paragraph about Jacob Switzer and Mary Ruckle) because I have found a mention of the marriage of Jacob to Mary Ruckle in 1808 and my Great Great Grandfather Benjamin son of Jacob (the eldest of 10 boys) born in 1809. Now though it has been pointed out to me that if Jacob Switzer was born in 1756 he would have been 52 when he married and 53 when the first of 10 boys was born. Unlikely don't you think? It begins to look as if there were at least two Jacob Switzers and the younger of the two must have been the one to marry Mary Ruckle and went on to have ten boys. All we need to do now is find out who he is! According to my grandfather's book about his family when Jacob died in Ireland a messenger was sent to Benjamin in Canada to inform him that he had in herited the family estate said to consiste of a Castle Blainey and land adjoining. However this estate, like so many in the old country was 'entailed' and he advised the mesenger that he did not want it, so that it would then pass on to his next younger brother. I believe this would have been William Switzer who lived near Bolton, Ontario but he could also have refused it and it could have then gone to John, Joseph, Reuben, HArvey, Thomas, Bartholomew, Daniel or Christopher. Castle Blainey appears to be north of Dublin and not as far as I'm aware part of the Southwell estate. If Jacob Switzer in Mary's mail was second cousin once removed of Daniels then surely it is possible that he had a son, also called Jacob, who would have been second cousin to Daniel. If so then the relationship given in the 1925 picnic sketch would be correct and this Jacob would have been great grandson of Johan Christopher Switzer. I'm sorry if this is a bit waffly. I hope it makes sense to someone and that we can somehow make a leap forward. Terry Jackson in Oxfordshire Researching: Lancs - SMITH, MCDONNELL, HAYES Ches.- MCDONNELL, GARNER, HOOLEY Staffs.- GARNER Surrey - WILKINSON, CHANDLER, FRY, PARRATT, PUNTER, LITTLE, ARNOLD, BINFIELD Canada & Ireland -SWITZER, LAWRENCE, JACKMAN ----- Original Message ----- From: <Switzerdolmage@aol.com> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 2:26 PM Subject: Re: [IP] Ann Brandt's book > Eula Lapp in To Their Heirs Forever says that Catherine, wife of Johan > Christopher Switzer of Court Matrix was a Ruckle. > > A Historical Sketch written by J. Holmes for the Ruckle-Switzer picnic in > 1925says in part: Mrs. Switzer [Catherine Ruckle Empey, daughter of Daniel son > of George] also says ----- that Grandfather Switzer [Jacob, husband of Mary > Ruckle] was second cousin of her father, Daniel Ruckle" > > Jacob Switzer born 1756 was a second cousin once removed of Daniel Ruckle and > is probably the Jacob who married Mary Ruckle. This Jacob was a grandson of > Johan Christopher Switzer. > > Mary > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Great minds talk about ideas. Average minds talk about > events. Small minds talk about people. > >

Hello Mary, The surname EMPEY caught my eye in the bit about the historical sketch. Is there a reference to exactly which EMPEY this was? Was Catherine the d/o John EMPEY? And if I understand you correctly, RUCKLE was her maiden name and she married first an EMPEY and then a SWITZER? Thanks... Susan Sac> Eula Lapp in To Their Heirs Forever says that Catherine, wife of Johan Sac> Christopher Switzer of Court Matrix was a Ruckle. Sac> A Historical Sketch written by J. Holmes for the Ruckle-Switzer picnic in Sac> 1925says in part: Mrs. Switzer [Catherine Ruckle Empey, daughter of Daniel son Sac> of George] also says ----- that Grandfather Switzer [Jacob, husband of Mary Sac> Ruckle] was second cousin of her father, Daniel Ruckle" Sac> Jacob Switzer born 1756 was a second cousin once removed of Daniel Ruckle and Sac> is probably the Jacob who married Mary Ruckle. This Jacob was a grandson of Sac> Johan Christopher Switzer. Sac> Mary Sac> ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== Sac> Great minds talk about ideas. Average minds talk about Sac> events. Small minds talk about people. -- Best regards, SL mailto:valcour@earthlink.net