There are Pipers in Terrace, British Columbia, Canada if you haven' t got them. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Crsashmo@aol.com> To: <IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2004 8:45 PM Subject: [IP] Piper > Judy > I made another trip to your keepsake book website and checked out the Piper > page. > I noticed you had Elizabeth Piper married to John Ruttle. > > I was wondering if you could give me Annette Piper's email address or ask her > to email me. I would like to know where she got the information that > Elizabeth was a child of Jacob Piper and his wife Christiana. > > I have no other information about my 5th great grandmother except a copy of > the Rathkeale Register showing their marriage: > > 1754 Jly 23 RUCKLE, John, of ye Parish of Nantinane > & PIPER Elizabeth, of ye Parish of Rathkeal > > A couple of years ago I asked Terry Piper if he had any ideas on Elizabeth's > parentage. She wasn't listed in "The Palatine Families of Ireland" in the > Piper section. She was only listed in the Ruckel section at the bottom of page > 104. > He wrote me back and said: > > "Your Elizabeth is interesting - I think no-one has much on her. She, of > course was born before the Rathkeale registers began to be recorded in 1742. By > elimination, she has to be the daughter of Jacob (eldest son of Hans Peter, > the original immigrant). I say this because Jacob's brother John also had a > daughter Elizabeth (b. 1749 - m. Adam Dolmage 1766 > Reasonably, we could assume that your Elizabeth (Thomas' mother) was born > between 1730-35, so almost certainly in Kilscannel/Kelleheen/Rathkeale where the > family was based. I had the good fortune to visit the original homestead > (Piper's Cottage) when I was there a coule of weeks ago. It now looks a bit like > a holiday chalet, but Austin (who owns it) wants to replace the new slate roof > with a thatch like the original - except that that would cost about L10 000 > and needs renewing once a decade... I took some photos anyway - I'm rather > sentimental about things like that. My father sold the holding in 1940, but I > would so love to own it. Ah, well - we can dream. > I hope one day to piece together all the Piper line and have already gathered > much material., but there's a long way to go yet. I shall soon be contacting > Piper addresses in North America and the Antipodes, which Austin passed to > me. But ANY information you could offer would be extremely useful." > > I hope that Terry has found a lot of new information on the Pipers...I have > found records on a lot of Pipers in Maryland region recently. I figure that > the Piper's who were in Baltimore were cousins of the Ruckles in Baltimore or > maybe even aunts and uncles. You can see that I really need help on my Piper > line trying to authenticate Elizabeth's father...I hope that Annette Piper might > have some new information too.. > > Thanks, > Carole > > > > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > List Administrator: > Susan Laursen Willig > IRL-PALATINE-admin@rootsweb.com > >