I think that is her grandmother, Judy. I poked backwards and forwards along the descent lines in Rootsweb (which is frustrating when your ancestors are often the eighth or nineth child and no one is following their descendants). I also poked around the Rathkeale info for a couple of hours. I decided to go with the following. Tobias Switzer, b 1848, had for parents Tobias Christopher Switzer and Harriet Shire, christened March 30, 1817; they married in 1838. Harriet's parents appear to be John Switzer, b 1795 and Eleanor Modler; they married 29 Sep 1813. John's parents are....wait for it....YET ANOTHER SHIRE SISTER! Harriet Shire, daughter of Charles. So, of the four grandmothers of Tobias, 3 are sisters (1 may be a half-sister - the old "how many Dorothys did Charles marry") Harriet married Jacob Switzer, who is the son of Martin "Ye Elder" and the mysterious Mary Elizabeth, and Martin's dad wa Johann Michael Schweitzer, brother of Tobias Christopher Switzers ancestor, Johann Christopher Schweitzer. Is this looking tangled yet? So, Johann Michael is my 10 g grandfather, his brother Johann Christopher is my 9 g grandfather. For those keeping score, Tobias and Harriet (Tobias Switzer and Harriet Switzer, not Tobias Switzer and Harriet Shire - do we see why my 10 month old son is named Joshua Tobias Christopher Dicks?) are my 2 g grandmother and grandfather. Now, who has any info on the Modlers? Fill one hole, and another springs up! Happy hunting, Paul Dicks >From: <judy.lyn@sympatico.ca> >Reply-To: IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-PALATINE-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [IP] Where Did Harriet(t) Switzer Come From >Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 13:03:35 -0400 > >Could your harriett Switzer be Harriet Shier, "Shier" being her maiden >name. >she married a jacob Switzer. >let's try that! >I am looking thru some records I have.. > >Judy > > > > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >List Administrator: >Susan Laursen Willig >IRL-PALATINE-admin@rootsweb.com > _________________________________________________________________ Don't just Search. Find! http://search.sympatico.msn.ca/default.aspx The new MSN Search! Check it out!