Would you believe, I have FOUR daughters of Charles Shire and Dorothy in my ancestry, 3 in one generation and in the generation before that. And guess what, Judy? We share a 7th gr grandmother, Mary Lawrence. At least that is one connection; I'm sure there are at least a dozen other ways of calculating it. Take care, Paul Dicks _________________________________________________________________ Take charge with a pop-up guard built on patented Microsoft® SmartScreen Technology http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&DI=1034&SU=http://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*.