Hi Another package for spare time reading. [#M: The following is a list of the very powerful representatives appointed as Commissioners for the Relief of the Poor Distressed Palatines in Ireland, in October 1709. It includes (in order of precedence): 2 Archbishops, 3 Earls, 3 Viscounts, 4 Bishops and 2 Barons, but no partridges. A quorum of 7 members was sufficient to carry a resolution, so most did not attend meetings, although Thomas Southwell was already busy corresponding on the issue in the background and I have attached below an earlier petition from a genuinely concerned Archbishop in the northern province of Ulster. As usual, you just need to look for 'end here' to find the cut-off point.] ***START HERE*** Entry Book of King's & Queen's Letters & Reports &c Original Queen's Letter No 337 in Carton 160 in Record Office dated at Windsor 15 Oct 1709 entered at signet office 17 Oct 1709 Appoints following as Commissioners for the Palatines in Ireland Richard Freeman esq the Lord Chancellor of Ireland and Richard Ingoldsby esq the Lt General of the Forces in Ireland who are the Lords Justices in the absence of Thos Earl of Wharton the Lord Lieutenant; Narcissus Archbishop of Armagh, William Archbishop of Dublin Robert Earl of Kildare, Henry Earl of Drogheda, Hugh Earl of Mount-Alexander, Pierce Viscount Ikerrin, Clotworthy Viscount Massereene, Viscount Castlecomer, Welboro Bishop of Kildare, St George Bishop of Clogher Edward Bishop of Down & Connor, Charles Bishop of Derry, The Barons of Howth Santry & Shelburne Alan Brodrick esq Speaker of the House of Commons Sir Wm Fownes kt Lord Mayor of Dublin Thos Brodrick esq. Sir Thomas Southwell bt. Sir Pat Dun kt, John Forster esq the Solicitor General, John Allen, Oliver St George, Joseph Dean William Whitshed, William Connolly, Edmund Stafford Joseph Kelly, Isaac Manley, Charles Campbell Robert Curtis, Samuel Walton, Thomas Quin John Page, Benjamin Burton, John Pierson Barkey, Francis Harrison & Hugh Henry esqs any 7 of them to be a Quorum. _________________ Entry Book of "Civil Petitions" p 13 Vol 15 for 1709-13 1E-1-90 Recommendation 12 Sep 1709 by Narcissus Archbishop of Armagh in favour of a Brief for a General Collection in all Churches throughout Ireland, and also for a Special Collection to be immediately made in the Dublin Churchs without delaying for the General Collection, for the poor Palatines lately come into this Kingdom. ***END HERE*** [This just about rounds off the fateful year 1709, apart from two small documents relating to the equally important matter of the emigrants sent on to America, dated December. These will be in the next bundle (#N). After that we stride boldly into 1710, when activities begin to hot up behind the scenes.] Kiss kiss Terry

Hang on a minute Terry, whilst I compose myself after a bout of hysterics !! The names of the Palatine Commissioners below, I note, include - "Narcissus Archbishop of Armagh", and "Clotworthy Viscount Massereene" !!!!! Can you confirm you are not pulling our collective multi-national leg? Di Mitchell England ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 12:35 PM Subject: [IP] GROVES TRANSCRIPTS #M > Hi > > Another package for spare time reading. > > [#M: The following is a list of the very powerful representatives appointed > as Commissioners for the Relief of the Poor Distressed Palatines in Ireland, > in October 1709. It includes (in order of precedence): 2 Archbishops, 3 > Earls, 3 Viscounts, 4 Bishops and 2 Barons, but no partridges. A quorum of 7 > members was sufficient to carry a resolution, so most did not attend > meetings, although Thomas Southwell was already busy corresponding on the > issue in the background and I have attached below an earlier petition from a > genuinely concerned Archbishop in the northern province of Ulster. As usual, > you just need to look for 'end here' to find the cut-off point.] > > ***START HERE*** > > Entry Book of King's & Queen's Letters & Reports &c > Original Queen's Letter No 337 in Carton 160 in Record Office > dated at Windsor 15 Oct 1709 entered at signet office 17 Oct 1709 > > Appoints following as Commissioners for the Palatines in Ireland > > Richard Freeman esq the Lord Chancellor of Ireland and Richard Ingoldsby esq > the > Lt General of the Forces in Ireland who are the Lords Justices in the absence > of Thos Earl of Wharton the Lord Lieutenant; > Narcissus Archbishop of Armagh, > William Archbishop of Dublin > Robert Earl of Kildare, Henry Earl of Drogheda, > Hugh Earl of Mount-Alexander, Pierce Viscount Ikerrin, > Clotworthy Viscount Massereene, Viscount Castlecomer, > Welboro Bishop of Kildare, St George Bishop of Clogher > Edward Bishop of Down & Connor, Charles Bishop of Derry, > The Barons of Howth Santry & Shelburne > Alan Brodrick esq Speaker of the House of Commons > Sir Wm Fownes kt Lord Mayor of Dublin > Thos Brodrick esq. Sir Thomas Southwell bt. Sir Pat Dun kt, > John Forster esq the Solicitor General, > John Allen, Oliver St George, Joseph Dean > William Whitshed, William Connolly, Edmund Stafford > Joseph Kelly, Isaac Manley, Charles Campbell > Robert Curtis, Samuel Walton, Thomas Quin > John Page, Benjamin Burton, John Pierson > Barkey, Francis Harrison & Hugh Henry esqs > > any 7 of them to be a Quorum. > _________________ > > Entry Book of "Civil Petitions" p 13 Vol 15 for 1709-13 > 1E-1-90 > > Recommendation 12 Sep 1709 by Narcissus Archbishop of Armagh in favour of a > Brief for a General Collection in all Churches throughout Ireland, and also > for a Special Collection to be immediately made in the Dublin Churchs without > delaying for the General Collection, for the poor Palatines lately come into > this Kingdom. > > ***END HERE*** > > [This just about rounds off the fateful year 1709, apart from two small > documents relating to the equally important matter of the emigrants sent on > to America, dated December. These will be in the next bundle (#N). After that > we stride boldly into 1710, when activities begin to hot up behind the > scenes.] > > Kiss kiss > > Terry > > > ==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== > Try to do little things in an extraordinary way. > >