Carole, I have wondered something for awhile, at the time our Stark's, Ruttle/Ruckle's came to the Maryland area, have you notices that many have married other palatine people and German people also, Do you wonder if at that time perticully the earlier arrivals if they spoke German or part? My cousin who I told you about before that is in her 70's and her older sister close to 90 said that our grandmother Lydia Seibert Stark said she was Pennsylvania Dutch and spoke a dialect in the early 1900's to them when they were children. Her husband a shoemaker Richard Havener Stark was born in Ireland and had been dead 50 years and of course did not know him, but remembers Unkle Peter Stark from Garrett Co. Md. Just a thought, IP in Ireland and England do you have a knowledge of how long they spoke German or part German? >From: [email protected] >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: [IP] Maryland IP's >Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2001 08:40:48 EDT > >I just thought of another book that I have that I hadn't considered a >Palatine book for some reason until I was reading the email from Jean Stark >Corwin. > >I have the book "The Bittinger, Bittner, Biddinger, and Bidinger >Families--and Their Kin---of Garrett County, Maryland, by Wayen Bittinger. >It is 836 pages of great information containing a great deal of information >on some of the Irish Palatines who migrated from Ireland.. > >My ancestors from the Ruckle/Piper line migrated to Baltimore, MD in the >1790's. There were other Ruckles that migrated to Allegany/Garrett county >in >1822. > >page 548: Ruckle Familly >"Henry Ruckle, Sr. married Catharine Stark on April 29, 1813; their >marriage >was noted in parish records at the town of Kilfinane, in county Limerick, >Ireland. Catherine (1788 or 1789--Jan. 23, 1850) was also born in >Ireland." > > >The Ruckle family came to the United States in 1822. Henry and Catharine >"Ruckel" and their four children---Mary, Agnes, Margaret, and Thomas, >boarded >the ship "Weser" at the port of Limerick, Ireland. The ship arrived at New >York City on May 9, 1822. American immigration records state that Henry >was >a farmer. Etta (Bittner) Kreger reproted that Agnes was six years old when >the family immigrated. Etta said the Agnes lost her coat during the >passage >and mauch such a fuss that the ship's captain took pity and bought her a >new >one." etc. > >There were also other Ruckle families who migrated to Allegany/Garrett >county >around the same time...Members of my direct line of Ruckles migrated in >that >area also. > >There are a lot of IP surnames listed in the book..There is a 66 page >index. > >If anyone has ancestors in this area I would be happy to look in the book >and >see if there is any information listed on them.... > >Carole > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >My folks didn't come over on the Mayflower, but >they were there to meet the boat. Will Rogers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp