Susan I believe I told you that my grandfather Charles H. born in US had the middle name [spelled different]Havner, his father, Richard H. Stark born in Ireland had middle name Havener [note spelling] and Richard's sister married a Havner I believe in the Us. So the name is of importance to this Stark family, as you can see. These Stark's came to Maryland and Allegeny Co. in the Grantville, area and some move into PA just across the border. One of the Stark girls married a Custer a cousin of George Custer. Some Broadwater, I will have to look at the names and send them in the event that some others have these lines. there must have been a neet little group of IP that settled there. As I told you before I believe that gr grandfather married a Seibert but their family had been in US from the begining because her grandfather fought in Rev. war I can only wonder if they had past through Ireland first as I did see Seibert on the list and even more did they know of each others past. So many questions and I doubt that is one no one would know. Thanks again and Terry thank you for the reports I am printing them and saving them and I like the added impressions that you have. It helps me to figure out some of the jargone as I am totally lost on some of the Kings language. I read in a report that it was very greatly considered that German was to be the offical language in the US in the begining years as that was the primary immagrant at that time. I wonder myself to if it were because of the revolt against England to seperate themselves from the once mother country. The Amish it seem in Pennsylvanis call outsider Enlish It doesn't seem to matter if your are English, Greek, Italian or what ever, if you aren't Amish you must be one of those English!! Jean Stark Corwin Greene Co Pennsylvania >From: SLWillig <[email protected]> >Reply-To: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [IP] Great IP Group >Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:14:29 -0700 > >Hi, Jean - > >><<Just want you to know that each day I can hardly wait to see what the >>group has on the list. It is so incrediable to see such help for fellow >>extended family member of so many years past pulling together. >> > >What a nice thing to say! It's a great group indeed. ><< I'm still looking for Heavener and Mee family members. Did the Mee >family spell their name Mee or Mye? I notice their name included in the >very early list but not in later lists.>> > >Hank Jones' book, *Palatine Families of Ireland* has four references to the >surname of MEE. The alternate spellings Jones cites are MYE and even MACE. > >pp. 90, 81 > >"The first settler in Ireland with this surname [MACE] was Johann Philip >Mace." It goes on a bit and apparently the name MACE is mentioned in the >Tenison Grove papers. > >Then Jones says, > >"Perhaps this man (above-mentioned) was the founder of the MEE family of >Co. Limerick, which is said to be of Palatine origin. Some of the family >resided on the Oliver Estate at Kilfinane, and Mary MEE, [wife of] Thomas, >was bur. there in 1875, aged 60 yrs." > >There is mention of Thomas MEE as a landowner at Ballycampion and of Joseph >MEE of Kilfinane, who married Margaret BATEMAN. > >The next reference is to the MYE bunch... the "emigrant ancestor" of which >was David MEY. He, too, is mentioned in the Grove papers as the head of a >Palatine family in Ireland on 13 Jul 1715. > >Hope this helps a bit, Jean. > >Susan > > > >==== IRL-PALATINE Mailing List ==== >My folks didn't come over on the Mayflower, but >they were there to meet the boat. Will Rogers > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp