Thanks, Carole and Di! Your resources have been added to the list and Di, you've been added as one who has access to "People Make Places". Here's an updated list of our group resources. Thanks to everybody who has been willing to contribute to the list. Special thanks to Terry for all his transcribing and posting of the Groves papers. Way to go, Terry! Susan ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 1. *Palatine Families of Ireland*, by Hank Jones. Published by Picton Press of Camden, ME, 1990 (Susan Willig, Carole Ruckle Richardson) 2. *To Their Heirs Forever*, by Eula C. Lapp. Published by Mika Pub. Co. of Belleville, Ontario, 1977. (Barb Milburn, Mary McDonald*, Susan Willig*, Carole Ruckle Richardson) 3. IRISH RECORDS James G. Ryan basically the civil parish vs. religious parish correlation...lookups available (Susan Patt Spencer) 4. THE SURNAMES OF IRELAND MacLysaght shows origins of names..lookups available (Susan Patt Spencer) 5. STATE CENSUS RECORDS (USA) Ann S. Lainhart give infor about whats contained in the state census returns and when they were taken for each state...lookups available (Susan Patt Spencer) 6. "People Make Places" Patrick J O'Connor, by ireacht na Mumhan Books 1989 (Chris LeGear, Carole Ruckle Richardson, Barb Milburn, Di Mitchell) 7. "The Irish Palatines of Ontario" Carolyn A Heald, available as part of "Canadian Papers in Rural History" by Langdale Press, Gananoque, Ontario (Chris LeGear) 8. "The Irish Palatines" Rev. Dudley L Cooney. 1999 Deutsch Irischer Freundeskreis but available from the Palatine Heritage Centre, Rathkeale. (Chris LeGear) 9. 1881 Great Britain Census (Chris LeGear, Terry Pyper, Barb Milburn) 10. ) "A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland" by Brian Mitchell,(1986, Baltimore, 123pp), with maps and listings of provinces, counties, baronies, Poor Law Unions (PLU), civil parishes, dioceses and probate districts. For townlands, I refer to a lovely Website posted by Ed Finn at: http://www.seanruad.com/cgi-bin/iresch. (Terry Pyper) 11. Cassell's Gazeteer of 1899 ('A complete topographical dictionary of the United Kingdom' , which - at that time, of course, included Ireland). Nothing more than photocopied pages of descriptions of localities, with illustrations and maps, but interesting. (Terry Pyper) 12. "Irish Family Names" by Kelly (Lois Sparling) 13. "Over the Hill and Far Away: Tracing the Sparlings" compiled by Bryant. (Lois Sparling ) 14. several 19c Ordnance Survey Maps, including Ryninch Upper townland in north Tipperary near Killaloe. (Lois Sparling) 15. "The Smeltzers of Kilcooly", R. M. Smeltzer (Carole Ruckle Richardson Baltimore, MD ) 16.. "The Loyalists of Ontario", Reid (Carole Ruckle Richardson Baltimore, MD ) 17.. "Early Palatine Emigration", Knittle (Carole Ruckle Richardson Baltimore, MD [email protected] ) 18. *The Romance of the Palatine Millers- a Story of the United Empire Loyalists* by Rev Bowman Tucker 1929 (Barb Milburn, Susan Willig) 19. *Descendants of John Miller & Mary Ann St John of Brock Township* by Don Blakely & Jean Perry, 1999 (Barb Milburn) 20. *Tennison Grove Papers *, (Barb Milburn, Susan Willig, Terry Pyper) 21. *Family tree Makers Family Archives, Genealogical Records: The Ontario register, 1780s-1870s CD # 204 from FHL*, (Barb Milburn) 21. BMDs from Rathkeale, Adare, Nantinan including some cemetery recordings (Barb Milburn) 22. Vital Records index-British Isles CD from FHL (Barb Milburn) 23. Vital Records index - North America CD from FHL (Barb Milburn) 24. "The Bittinger, Bittner, Biddinger, and Bidinger Families--and Their Kin---of Garrett County, Maryland*, by Wayen Bittinger. It is 836 pages of great information containing a great deal of information on some of the Irish Palatines who migrated from Ireland.. ([email protected] - Carole) 25. "All Ireland is in and about Rathkeale", ISBN 0 9512184 7 6, published by Oireacht na Mumhan Books 1966. (Di Mitchell ) WEB SITES: 1. Teskey family website www.teskey.org - Family Tree - Teskey Family Tree - Surnames. This contains hundreds of spouses and descendants with other Palatine surnames, and shows how they are related through the Teskey line. 2. . The Irish Palatine Association's website www.erin.ie/ipa is a useful source. Whilst it's not yet as friendly as it should be, it does contain some useful information. It has a unique record of pupils who enrolled at Rathkeale No 2 School between 1873 and 1910, soon to be joined by a record of pupils at the No 3 School. (Submitted by Ken McDonald 2 Greenfields, Stansted, Essex, CM24 8AH, England [email protected] )