Connie, I'm sorry for the way my message came out. I didn't say I didn't care about the Dulmages...I said I didn't know much about the Dulmages...But then again, I probably have a lot of information about the Dulmages in the books that I have...so I apologize for the way my message came across...I will write you at the email address you gave me to discuss the Ruckles and Dulmages further.... Margrath had three known brothers, Philip, Sebastian and Paul... . I have a few Dulmages on my family tree...One of Sebastian's daughters, Ann, also married a Dulmage---Philip Dulmage.. "The Embury Family History and Partial Genealogy", by Edith Berry Embury doesn't have much on The Embury Sister, Mrs. Jacob Dulmage, Sr. or Jr. The following is written about The Embury Sister pages 50 & 51 quote: "No attempt has been made in this work to delineate the Dulmages and separate the Embury-Dulmage descendants. The Dulmages are numerous and scattered and would require a single-minded project by an interested descendant. The following are a few notes gathered mainly from Methodist works and presented here for anyone wishing to use them. We believe that both Jacob Dulmage Sr. and Jr. came with the four Embury brothers from Ireland in 1760. Both father and son signed the 1763 petition for land which states the petitioners had been in America for 2 1/2 years. The signatures are written "Dulmidge." The Embury sister's name may have been Margaret. In "Pioneer Life on the Bay of Quinte" we find this: "Amy Allison, a descendant (of Margaret Dulmage) says her grandmother suggested she be called Barbara Heck after their celebrated relative." Whether the grandmother referred to was actually the sister of the Emburys or a descendant of that sister is not clear. Atkinson and Sanderson refer to the sister as Mrs. Dulmage, an indication that neither author discovered her given name. From them we learn that Mrs. Dulmage died during the winter of 1809-10, "after sending messages to all her absent children." One daughter, Ann Dulmage, married the Rev. Samuel Coate, Methodist minister, and they were known as "the handsome couple." Bishop Asbury, in his Journal, August 7, 1812, wrote: "The wife of our brother, Samuel Coate, had a daughter born to her, whom I baptized, naming her Sophie." Samuel Coate was then preaching in Baltimore, Md. Sanderson, p. 52, records" "Samuel Cochran, son of Samuel and Ann Coate, born in Edwardsburgh, Jan. 29, 1808, and baptized by the Rev. Joseph Sawyer, March 13, 1808." And on p. 60: "It was in one of these Saturday night prayer meetings (Methodist) that Mrs. Coate in her girlhood was converted; and in the old circuit register are recorded the births and baptisms of all the nine children." One is prompted to ask: whose nine children? Coates children, or Ann's brothers and sisters? The circuit register referred to may be for Oswegotchie, later divided into Augusta and Cornwall. Samuel Coate's flowing oratory was said to have been quite an innovation in the early settlements. He resigned the ministry about 1810, visited England for a time and died later after surgery. Ann Dulmage Coate afterward married a Mr. McLean. A brother of Ann Dulmage married a Sarah---------?, mentioned in Atkinson p. 69. Some of the Dulmages settled at Augusta and Edwardsburgh. Others, with the Switzers, Masons, and "other German-Irish Methodists settled in the fertile region to the west" of Toronto. There were Coates at Trafalgar." There is a whole lot of information out there on your family lines just waiting to be discovered and a whole lot of information that is available that people are willing to share with you.. Welcome to the group, if you want to email me directly my address is: [email protected] Carole